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Discussion #1216Talk Sense

24 Jun 2012 13:59:05
have you seen this? Giant Detailed Indian Face found on Google Earth, Canada, Millions of years old

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY65HFr0BxA

 

Its nothing when ever we see things such as patterns the brain allways trys to make a face out of it as it is the most familiar thing we see fact
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Discussion #1215Talk Sense

24 Jun 2012 00:54:58
Just watching JFK again (forget how many times I've watched it), what a cast!
I still there is alot more to it than we will know for a long time of ever.
I heard a theory somewhere that JFK was going to declare the existence of ET's which also contributed to his death along with Marilyn Monroe's as he let it be known to her what he was going to do.
Anybody/Ed think there could be anything to this?
Fascinating episode in history regardless.

Supasub

{Ed033's Note - JFK was assassinated for multiple reasons. JFK was the last proper US president i.e. was going to do great things for America and the world. But as we've seen, anyone who has the actual power to do great things for the world is "taken out". I have heard this rumour that JFK was going to start ET disclosure at some point and that he used to tell Marilyn Monroe what he was going to do.

John F Kennedy's bodyguards being ordered to stay away from the JFK limousine

 

So weird because ive spent the last few days looking at JFK for some reason and so was very happy to catch it tonight as ive never seen it before. the whole thing stinks !! its not even a case of of its a conspiracy anymore, but who did it? cia/fbi, cubans, communists, the mafia, or a combination. from the little i know i say it has to be the cia. just sad cause i agree with ed, he was a man for peace and it is no surprise America went to war in vietnam straight away. always thought a reason for his assassination was wanting to change the way the federal reserve works but now i think it may be even more deeper than that.

Vincent
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Ed/anyone, who would of controlled the american military at the time as they would of had a major involvement in my opinion? It would of been too high level for the Mafia even though they were probably connected at a lower level.
Alot of people died in the following years in mysterious circumstances connected to the whole episode.
If some of the rumours are true we would be living in a different world today.

Supasub

{Ed033's Note - it has been speculated that a coup d'etat took place that day on America and not just the assassination of JFK. Only a group at the highest level could order virtually all security away from JFK in Dallas on that day in 1963.

After JFK's death, whichever group took over, decided to economically ruin America and now the only real industry in America is the war industry, which means America needs to be kept in constant wars. This is why you would expect more war after the US presidential election.
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Its obvious because why would the fbi conflascate a video
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Yeah i agree with the above posts. and also very suspcious how most of the people who died claimed they heard gun shots from behind the fence, which the government strongly denies. also ed, wanted to know if what they said in the film is true. in 2039 (i think that was the date), will we be able to see the cia files on the people connected with this or something along those lines? thanks

Vincent

{Ed033's Note - When they do release any of the files, they could be so heavily blacked out that they are useless anyway.

More on the JFK assassination conspiracy. Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura - JFK assassination

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I think simply it was because he was going to let the government print its own dollars backed by silver, and the gangsters that run the fed were never going to let that happen

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Discussion #1214Talk Sense

23 Jun 2012 22:07:13
back when the 'western forces' accused Iraq of having WMD then it was outed as a lie. Surely the powers that be could have planted WMD in Iraq!? And in doing so invade the country 'legally'

 

Well anything is possible but lets not forget that building such weapons is very expensive and the facilitys are massive so thats like already billions in funding.Then the sources can be traced such as like a fingerprint in uranium.
Then they have to sneak these weapons into the country unless they built them there and thats not going to be easy and then plant them in known compounds so they can be found.
OR JUST LIE ABOUT IT AND THEN SAY OOPSIE WE MADE A MISTAKE.

That is after killing the person who leaked it on the BBC that is (suicide sorry dont want to be their next hit).

Oh and ed are we all still believing that he was so aggrieved by anouncing on the BBc that they glamourised the documents he killed himself with his hands tied or has another suspect account been spoon fed to us by our loving government.

Kopping a feel

{Ed033's Note - The first post is actually quite funny because there is no such thing as 'legally' invading a sovereign nation like Iraq. Think about this; Does america or russia or france etc. have WMDs? Yes, so why doesn't someone 'legally' invade these countries? The answer is because there is no such thing as 'legally' invading a sovereign nation.

Kopping a feel, I think you answered your ed question perfectly accurately yourself.
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That's why legally was put in as 'legally' maybe ligitimate was the word to be used. And as there is plenty of wmds in America it would be easy to plant a weapon there. If ppl on here believe in black tech etc it should be a piece of p1ss for them to plant a weapon there?!
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Discussion #1213Talk Sense

23 Jun 2012 19:04:08
Has anyone seen the Julian Assange show on RT called 'The world tomorrow' ? He has interviewed some high profile people from arround the world, it's interesting to see that he is getting a lot of support away from the western media who are trying to vindictate him. Do others think they they are just trying to damage his reputation or do you beleive he did what they say ?

 

I think he was set up to try get him in jail one way or another i feel sorry on him becuse he is only doing good, but thats the price you pay for whistleblowing he you will be demonised by the media

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There's an old saying "no smoke without fire" maybe he did do something a bit naughty once and now that they are so desperate to get him they'll dig up anything they can to pin on him. That said it could just be a put up job, but something like that needs false witnesses and manufactured evidence. Yes they could do it, but if it unravelled then its dangerous.
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If you apply the correct amount of pressure, friction will also produce smoke!
smoke with no fire! ya see?
dbadger..
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Discussion #1212Talk Sense

23 Jun 2012 18:32:45
Does anyone else think that UFO's are our "future ancestors" coming back to prevent certain things that may have gone wrong in the past?

Would it be possible to change the past if we could?

I can remember seeing the TV show "Lost" and in there it said what has been done can not be undone.

Pepperpot.

 

I believe that time travel is possible but only into the future, like when travelling at the speed of light..

there's too many complications to go back in time IMO.

JK92
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What I don't understand is if a human came up with the theory of time then how can travelling through time be possible?
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No name, say if an astronaut went to space today and he traveled around space at the speed of light for 10 years (10years in human time) when he comes to earth everything would of aged by 100 hundred years (give or take a few).

ed is that right? help me out here lol.

JK92 {Ed001's Note - I am not sure of the exact amounts involved, but they do perceive time at a different rate and age at a different, slower rate to those of us on the planet. I am not sure if I remember this correctly, but I am sure that it also happens to those in orbit on the ISS, that they perceived time differently and aged at a different rate.}
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Discussion #1211Talk Sense

23 Jun 2012 08:24:38
I'd like to get opinions on blood, and the theory that nazis' were close to using it as a type of fuel power known as "vril".

Blood drinking has loads of various stories through nearly all cultures. Is there anything to it?

Finally, I have donated blood lots of times, but never met anyone who needed a transfusion. Why are "Blood stocks" always so low that there's constant appeals for more? And where does blood go when morticians drain it?

 

I have met a few people that need blood on a regular basis (for example once a month) the problem is, a lot of patients are not given any blood due to non being available.
Also they usually have a lot lower life expectantcy rate, usually they don't live above the age of 25-30, however ig they are given regular blood all their life then they obviously have a higher life expectancy.
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Doesn't it have use by dates? So that stocks have to be constantly replaced? Was my understanding but could be wrong. maybe vampires are real
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Discussion #1210Talk Sense

22 Jun 2012 16:09:41
Ed, a quick question, do you believe that all religions are based on the same event? like zecharia sitchin said that jews, Muslims and Christians all get their religions from things that happened with the annunaki, he also said the christian cross was used well before Christianity was formed.
JK92

{Ed033's Note - IN my mind, the answer could be yes. Robert K. G. Temple wrote a book called the Sirius Mystery where The Dogon tribe know more more about the sirius star system than they should for a tribe with no high technology. They appear to be saying a group of ETs they call Nommo came to Earth and gave their ancestors info about the Sirius solar system. There is a larger story about the Nommo but the main point is that the Nommo story and the Annunaki story is probably the same story.

Now if this Nommo/Annunaki story is real then with high technology ETs interacting all over the world with low tech humans would create what is known as cargo cults. This is where the low tech group create religious practices in an attempt to primitively mimic the higher tech group.

Over time the religious practises change and multiple different religions appear all from of the same original event.

In addition, the "christian" cross was used well before Christianity yes.

 

Thanks ed.
ill have to read up on the siruis mystery, sounds interesting.

sorry for another question but i have 2 more.
1: do you believe that the annunaki intended to create multiple religions and languages so we wouldn't understand one another and have conflict with each other to "dumb us down".

2: something that confuses me, planet x apparently collided with Tiamat but what i don't understand is if planet x collided with tiamat then how come the annunaki didn't get affected by this? because according to zecharia sitchin thats where our life forms came from, when their oceans mixed with ours..
thanks.

JK92

{Ed033's Note - Question 1. The Annunaki story has 2 groups:

Group 1) the Enki group that wants mankind to become an "advanced" race equal to or greater than The Annunaki

Group 2) The Enlil group that either wants mankind to stay as dumbed down slaves or wants to limit mankind so it has to take it really slowly to becoming "advanced" as otherwise mankind may destroy themselves through for instance, nuclear radiation

Question 2: I'm not a sitchin expert but I don't think that sitchin ever referred to nibiru as Planet X. Planet X and Nibiru may actually be 2 different planetary bodies.

From memory, in Sitchin's 12th planet book it was not Nibiru that hit Tiamat but a moon of Nibiru. However this Tiamat scenario could be a guess by the Annunaki as this happened several billions of years ago.
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Christianity is just a heavily disguised Sun worship religion dropped in ontop of existing religions.

I do find it interesting though how all the older pre existing religions were built on mythical superhero types doing amazing feats just like christianity.
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Discussion #1209Talk Sense

22 Jun 2012 14:13:54
the whole thing about planet x (nibiru) is all lies isnt it? BLUEBOY1

{Ed033's Note - When these people started promulgating the idea that planet x or nibiru was arriving in 2012, they would cite Zecharia Sitchin as a source. But multiple times Zecharia Sitchin was asked about nibiru coming in 2012 and he essentially said no way. In Zecharia Sitchin's book the 12th Planet, he says according to his research, nibiru last entered this solar system in 200 B.C., so that means even if he is correct, it won't return until 3400 A.D.

There maybe a planet x or second sun that is part of the solar system that has a large orbit but almost certainly won't disastrously affect this planet anytime soon. Certainly not within your lifetime.

Some people/publishers have made money out of the 2012 planet x/nibiru disaster scenario and may continue to make money off of it until Dec 21 2012.

 

Ed, i watched a 2hour long zecharia sitchin video the other day and when asked about planet x "arriving" in 2012 he just laughed, he said planet x had a orbit of 3600 years and the last time it passed the sun was about 500-700 b.c.

JK92

This is the video
youtube.com/watch?v=uVidhmB0Fho
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Cheers ed, it makes me wonder because so many people go on about it, and thr seems to be alot of info. but lies for money. im inrested in the whole planets solar system stuff, from the moon landing and the dark side of the moon and this nibiru BLUEBOY1
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Discussion #1208Talk Sense

22 Jun 2012 12:35:14
maybe the ones that sufferthe most go to higher place and the ones who torture the most go to a lower place,who knows?bri67 {Ed001's Note - that's the delusion that sets people off believing in this fantasy. Tell people they will get rewarded, sometime in the future, and they will do as you tell them. Religion is the biggest conspiracy of all.}

 

Will dojust thought there must be different religons+atheists ect on this site,i wanted to see what peoples thoughts were,cheers for your time mate bri67 {Ed001's Note - I am sure a few others will join in.}
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For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, maybe that is the same with life?
maybe when one person dies another is born, not necessarily a human life.
sort of like reincarnation..

JK92
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At above post, why is the population rising then ?
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Who said it had to be human can't creatures come back in reincarnation like humans. They say we can come bag as creatures so why not vice verca?
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No name, as our population rises the animal population decreases..?

(not saying i believe what i said in the first post, but why not..? nobody knows what happens and we never will, it's lifes great/tragic mystery)

JK92
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Discussion #1207Talk Sense

22 Jun 2012 06:51:25
who believes in catholosism+why?i do! discuss please bri67 {Ed001's Note - do you? I believe Catholicism exists, if that helps?}

 

So ed what do you believe in if anything and why?that was my question! bri67 {Ed001's Note - sorry mate, I didn't realise that was what you were asking. Personally, I do not believe in any religion, I am an atheist. I think religions are just people taking advantage of the human desire for there to be something more to life than just existing. People are always looking for meaning, they seem to think we have to have more to our life than a simple desire to exist. I see no reason why there should be more to life, we are no more than animals with a higher IQ, to enable us to survive more easily.}
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Thats a fair point,i just think we as a race are a bit arrogant to think we are at the top of the tree!as you yourself say,could there not be something with a higher IQ etc? i mean we are on this site talking about aliens etc,so why is religion so far fetched? bri67 {Ed001's Note - you mean a being with the power to stop child abuse, world hunger, human trafficking, murders etc, but chooses to sit on their hands and watch us struggle through it? It is quite possible that there may be more powerful and intelligent creatures, but they are clearly not worthy of being worshipped. Any sentient being, with the power to help, that sits idly by, deserves contempt, not worship.}
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I understand what your saying,but nobody tells people that do things like that to do what they do,free will etc,so good people end up in a good place and bad people end up in a bad place?thats my thoughts anyway,just thought a wee discussion about different beliefs would be quite interesting? {Ed001's Note - nobody tells people what to do, but any kind of god worth worshipping would not sit idly by, in my opinion. I wouldn't sit idly by and watch you hurt an animal, it is just the same thing in my view.}
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P.s its a timeline thing,i dont think what we call eternal damnation (hell) is sitting by idly? bri67 {Ed001's Note - except there is absolutely no use in that, talking about shutting the stable door!}
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So god created all the whole universe, all the stars, all the planets, every living thing, but apparently he is not very good with money, cause the first thing ALL religions do is ask for your money and why can no one explain who made god ?, fundamental is u ask me...
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Discussion #1206Talk Sense

21 Jun 2012 23:07:08
Whats the story with julian assange seems like hes a wanted man from a few countries

Jedimindtricks

 

There seems to be people out to get him alrite Jedi, one could only assume that they know he has information a lot more incriminating than anything he has previously released and they either want to prevent him or have in place a means of tarnishing anything he does release in the future by trying him for crimes such as sexual assault and the like.

PmacC
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Discussion #1205Talk Sense

19 Jun 2012 13:53:19
ed's what do you know about this theory that our solar system is a binary star system. With the companion star being outside the current bounds of the system. I thought current thinking was that companion stars had to be in a certain proximity, not millions of miles away in an orbit beyond the planetary orbits. Obviously current theories can be wrong and get updated all the time as new data is found. But really could that work, a secondary star and its gravitational pull would have some implications. So any ideas?

{Ed033's Note - The scientific theory is that the precession of the equinoxes was stable at around 25,900 years. However now it appears that that scientific theory was wrong because the precession appears to be speeding up. This has confused the scientific community who don't appear to have an answer so a theory being put forward which would explain this and the fact that cultures were more advanced in the past than the current scientific community leads us to believe is this:

As most solar systems are binary solar systems with 2 suns, statistically, this solar system is more likely to be binary than not. So if there is a 2nd sun that is part of this solar system, then when this second sun is approaching this solar system, the precession of the equinoxes speeds up because of a greater "force" on this solar system and when moving away, the the precession of the equinoxes slows down due to the "force" weakening.

The theory being put forward also suggests that the closer this second sun is to this solar system, the more advanced the cultures we have on planet Earth and the further away, the cultures become less advanced.

Possibly the main guy researching this, is Walter Cruttenden, who has appeared on tv and radio shows and produced a dvd and book on this subject. There are a number of radio interviews with him on youtube (coast to coast am / red ice radio).
Below is a video interview with Walter Cruttenden but you will probably want to skip the first 10 minutes.

Bridging Heaven & Earth Show # 215 with Walter Cruttenden and The Great Year Videos


 

Ok thanks ed
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