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Discussion #1156Talk Sense

24 May 2012 00:54:58
Theres lots of questions about the trip to the moon, eg why they when up there what they got from it ect, all im asking is what really happend? ed's your thoughts?

{Ed033's Note - There is a secret space program that uses non rocket type black technology to propel the spacecraft. In order to get to the moon, the NASA Apollo program used black technology. Apollo astronauts saw other craft on the moon that could have been the secret space program craft.

They can't show us what the moon is really like so the Apollo video that we were shown was faked on Earth by Stanley Kubrick using the front projection system as shown in Jay Weidner's documentary, kubrick's odyssey I. Also the colour pictures of Apollo astronauts on the moon in the glossy magazines were faked on Earth.

 

There's also an abundance of Helium 3(energy source) and allegedly structures on the moon.
As for the Helium 3, this has been superseded by other energy sources(zero point energy and the like).
Regards to the film made by Kubrick it was then leaked by the American government about the moon landing being hoax. Reason being it debunks conspiracy theorists such as ourselves because the masses want to believe that thoses moon landings were real.
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There is a lot of evidence to fuel the debate about the fake moon landings, the best evidence Ive seen to throw doubt over it was the pictures of the moon-buggy, as the dust gets kicked out from under the tyres it falls down just like you would see all the time, if it were on the moon it would carry on rising up due to it being just dust with apparently very little gravity apart from the earths gravitational pull. Have you seen the lunar rover ? $38 million and it looks like I could have made a better job with a Tesco trolly and some tin foil.

Matt_RFC

{Ed033's Note - Exactly. Also, astronauts certainly wouldn't be moving about at half speed. If anything they would be moving slightly quicker.
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Why exactly would the astronauts be moving quicker? You do realise of course, that they are carrying all that extra weight around? Or is it because you are 'awake' that you know better? What a ridiculous statement. {Ed001's Note - but the thinner atmosphere and lower gravity would mean that they would in fact feel like they were carrying less weight, because in effect they were. It is because he is not an idiot that he knows that, nothing to do with being awake, it is simple basic science. Perhaps you need to rethink your attempts to attack others? Because all you have done is made a ridiculous comment proving your lack of understanding. Typical of those who only know what they are told and are incapable of thinking for themselves.}
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Well done ed you really are giving the gonads
a hammering just lately {Ed001's Note - it is not difficult, they are not that bright and don't actually have any idea what they are talking about. It would help if they actually took the time to do a little research, then they might do the simple maths to understand that a lower force of gravity = effective reduction in weight. It is not like it is difficult to understand that what we call weight is not a set amount, it is affected by the force of gravity. If gravity is halved, then the effective weight carried would be halved, so they could carry twice as much and it would feel the same. Well actually that isn't taking into account their effective body weight would also be halved, so they would also have more spare muscle capacity in their body from not having to fight the extra gravitational force to move. Sorry, I started rambling on then.}
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Well next time one crawls out from under a rock they might just read some of the information that gets posted on here and on other places and formats process it and maybe just maybe start trying to use a part of their being they were born with {Ed001's Note - I very much doubt it, they only seem to come on to belittle everyone.}
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Discussion #1155Talk Sense

24 May 2012 13:21:01
Not really a conspiracy, more a long term concern. My wife is a staff nurse & in the hospital she works,they've had a recent meeting where it has been announced that many antibiotics will be withdrawn from use leaving maybe only two very soon inluding intravenous. This is down to their growing ineffectiveness. There are and have been for some time now increasing strains of resistent infection's like TB, syphillis even E.Coli apparently to name just a few. Many people will have in-built immunities to these and alot of our immune systems will mutate and become resistent I presume. Many people have been aware for some time that we are not able to produce different antibiotics at a quick enough rate any more but it's concerning when you start to hear that some are being now withdrawn. It's never been helped by some countries that just sell them over the counter & over-use by GP's wher it's been subscribed or demanded for use on viruses, people become better but do not finish the course correctly then the strain they have can grow immunity.
This does'nt explain all of it I know but here's hoping that myself and my children have good strong immune system's for the potential of increasing nasties out there, certainly as my wife is working around people who are likely to come in carrying.

Supasub

 

It is a concern, also diseases that were on the decline or defeated are coming back largely because of migrants, with weaker immune systems, coming in living and working in poor conditions and are at more risk to certain diseases.
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That's right, there is even growing amounts of resistent Polio in se parts of the world.

Supasub
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Or maybe the chemtrails are taking effect, just saying lol

clt
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{Ed033's Note - 6 minute silver solution

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Discussion #1154Talk Sense

23 May 2012 23:20:51
i have been speaking with friends and family about alternative energies cures for cancers and aids for example being held back for profiteering reasons, whilst they tend to agree that alternative energies are kept from us for monetary reasons they basically did not agree about cures for terminal reasons. Which I cannot understand as if they agree the powers that be will rape us for the energies we use i.e gas, electric and oil, why will they not agree the same powers that be will make more money from treating terminally ill people for prolonged treatments or multiple treatments for said profits, is this because it is morally wrong, or am I? Your opinions fellow posters or eds.
stuart {Ed001's Note - people have difficulty understanding that there is little profit in keeping people alive. It costs the Govt to provide cures, so they don't want them. Drug companies are only interested in cures that are prohibitively expensive.}

 

Where i believe you seem to agree with me i don't see keeping people alive the point i was trying to make ed, the point i was trying to make which may not have come across was that people are getting rich from treating people rather than curing them, and the argument i seem to come across time and time again is that its not in the governments interest not to cure people if they can as it costs more money, when in fact it doesn't cost the government money it costs taxpayers more money and every bodies cost of living has sky rocketed in recent years through all the increases in taxes and types of new taxes we are paying, I know a lot is to do with the global recession, but my main point is who actually gains through not curing people (by that i mean ultimately which family or super power)?
stuart {Ed001's Note - the major corporations do, such as Glaxo Wellcome, who have shareholders, who all gain profit. I am not really sure who would be the major shareholders, but you can be pretty certain that they will be amongst the richest of the rich.}
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Over-population, If the TPTB/illuminati theories are to be believed there is potentially a plan to reduce the world's population for whatever reason (probably cost/wealth).

Supasub
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Most diseases, pandemics and illnesses are manufactured and spread by the very companies that manufacture the medicines and vaccines. The sooner people wake up the better.
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Discussion #1153Talk Sense

23 May 2012 13:21:52
watched a viedeo about 911 yesterday and there was a point risen, when bricks fell off the buildings alot of it just turn to dust, can anyone explain or atleast come close ?

 

Explosions turn brick into dust.
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Ha, that was a pretty lame explanation there, but if that helps you sleep at night then far be it from me to tell you how wrong you are.
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Look at the video about half way down this page about directed energy technology

Pepperpot
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I hope that the guy that replied explosions turns bricks to dust meant that the crash did because if you believe that it was a controlled explosion you are an idiot?
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They nail it in the two Videos below just watch

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Discussion #1152Talk Sense

22 May 2012 21:07:14
How many people here are running off grid or are looking to run off grid? Why do governments try to make it harder to be self sufficient and to rely on them

 

Because they earn money out of it.

They tax the energy companies on what they make and even worse they tax you as well, VAT on a bill is a scandel.
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People should be made more aware that they can indeed run off grid, I bet the majority of people are too brainwashed to even think of it
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Inheritance tax is a scandal, tax on income that has already been taxed, it's like a super-compounded tax. In a lifetime if you guesstimate everything You earn, you probably pay out the same if not more in tax one way or another.
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Or too lazy to do it as well.

Yes most tax is just downright evil. Which twisted f***er thought up of VAT anyway.

Inheritance tax again is very bad, unless its on multi millionaires.

Road tax? Terrible.
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Road tax... or as the Government likes to call it, Vehicle Excise Duty, is a scandal. Lets take the meaning of the word 'excise'. Excise is an indirect inland tax, usually a specified amount rather than a percentage, on the sale or production for sale of specific goods or as a tax on a good produced for sale, or sold, within a country or licenses for specific activities. So, road use isn't a product for sale or a 'production for sale' item, so how can they justify it? It's that last bit, that's the bit that the government likes to refer road tax as. A license to use the free to the public road in your vehicle. Yet, my drivers license gives me that right in addition to this & I don't have to renew that every year. It's another example of an outdated taxation that the government earns far too much money from to do away with, like Fuel duty. If you remove those two taxes from the economy we simply wouldn't be able to afford things as a coutry. The motorist suffers again.
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Discussion #1151Talk Sense

21 May 2012 17:27:52
10000 bc is a bit odd. Some good conspiracy bits in there though. Atlantis, pyramids being older than thought.

 

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Discussion #1150Talk Sense

21 May 2012 07:38:10
A Chinese tv company have advertised the European championships and the Olympics by showing European landmarks on fire.

 

So if anything bad does happen does this mean that the Chinese are behind it?
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The advert was more about a European war than an attack
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Discussion #1149Talk Sense

20 May 2012 23:32:28
A few days a go I read that there would be an earthquake on the 20th may caused by HARRP technology. I was going to ask about it on here but didnt think that there was anything to it, there has just been an earthquake is Bolagna is there anything to it or is it just a coincidence that a sizeable earthquake has happened when someone predicted.

RedPJ

 

‪There were about 45-50 earthquakes on the 20th May.‬

‪And on the 21st Mayat 8.28 UK time (That were I live) there has already been 11 quakes‬

‪http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php‬
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I know theres loads of earthquakes everyday, there just isnt loads of large earthquakes everyday that get reported

RedPJ
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Nostradamus predicted that a massive Earthquake would hit Spain on the same date. Thousands of Spanish people fled / left the country based on this prediction. Only the quake did not hit Spain, but Italy. Spooky coincidence or did Nostradamus just see what he believed was Spain?
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Discussion #1148Talk Sense

20 May 2012 18:10:04
Just thinking about the Norwegian massacres and the fact that anders breivik phoned the police 10 times to surrender withouth being answered, could this have been a conspiracy

{Ed033's Note - There's still a lot more to come out on this but to a reasonable person looking at what has come out so far, may come to the conclusion that this massacare was allowed to take place by stalling the police on purpose.

 

Who's stalling the police and why Ed?

MM

{Ed033's Note - Over the years, if you were paying attention, there have been a number of these type of attacks in UK and US and elsewhere, where the police have been held back by government agencies so the attacks could be carried out.

A lot of the people who carry out the attacks are government agency assets or manchurian candidates and must be allowed time to carry out out their programming by stalling the authorities.

Some of these attacks are allowed to take place to test out the efficacy of the Tavistock mind programming techniques. Some of these attacks are allowed to take place to bring in new legislation and/or new societal liberty/freedom reduction changes, such as the body scanners being brought in at airports due to the low IQ government agency asset fake underwear bomber who got on a plane without a passport and was accompanied by a well dressed government agent.

The 7/7 Ripple Effect Film shows us some of the hows and whys of these types of attacks

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Goes back at least as far as the Oklahoma bomber. That was always a bit suspicious.

{Ed033's Note - If you're talking about Timothy McVeigh then this is more than suspicious. The documentary, A noble lie is the best documentary on this state sponsored attack. This noble lie documentary will be let out for free according to the producers.

Before this was Operation Gladio which was state sponsored terrorism in Europe. But state sponsored terrorism is hundreds of years old where a ruling group creates attacks in their own area and blames it on another person or group.

operation gladio - timewatch 1992 - state-sponsored terrorism in europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXavNe81XdQ
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Thats the chap.
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Discussion #1147Talk Sense

20 May 2012 13:12:41
given popular culture is supposed to be full of symbolism and hidden messages and prepare us for the future what do people think of the katy perry song e.t.

 

According to rumours on the net; "if you take Blue Ivy and turn it backwards you get Eulb Yvi, which just so happens to be Lucifer's daughter's name in Latin. Now, that's a weird combination. So, Beyonce's daughter is not only the Illuminati's Very Youngest, she's also the daughter of Satan? Does that make Jay-Z the devil incarnated?"

Lucifers daughters name is also supposed to be Sirk Rennej which is Kris Jenner. Kardashians mum I think.

On another website, Gemory, Clea and Sarine are Lucifers daughters.

Pepperpot
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Problem is Eulb Yvi isn't actually Latin. Not in any Latin dictionary i've ever been through.
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Go to youtube and have a look at the official Jay J video called ****** in Paris. The whole thing is quite blatant but you might as well go to to the money shot straight away, the last 10 seconds or so......... Square and compass made from lazers and the music changes to a completely random deep piano chord, weird stuff. I think he just likes the image of being a higher status of person, I dont personally think he is an elite, I think after what happened to black people during the days of the empire would indicate to me the elite bloodlines are very racist, and before anyone says what about Obama I think he is being set up to be a fall guy, somethings going to happen soon, history tells us this, our troops will be running away from Afgan soon to prepare for the next arms sale event and something is going to be set up to make the sheeple so thirsty for revenge they will be asking their various governments to quadruple the arms budget, what do you think theyre really discussing at this G8 summit ?

Matt_RFC
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Discussion #1146Talk Sense

20 May 2012 12:42:49
hey ed, wanted to know why exactly the stonehenge is that famus?
it surely was not the most magnificent structure of that time(the pyramids were build at the sametime as well). does it have any unsolved mysteries that makes everyone that excited? {Ed001's Note - well yes, no one actually really knows what it is or does. As for saying the Pyramids were built at the same time, well it depends which pyramids you are referring to. Some show signs of being a much greater age, as does the Sphinx.}

 

The fact it is built on the exact spot where the 5 main leigh lines meet which are mysterious energy lines that I think are scientifically proven but dont actually know much about them.
But that is the significance is how they believe ancient man built on something they should have comprehension about and build something they did technically not have the ability to build.

Kopping a feel

{Ed033's Note - If you really want to know the answers to Stone Henge and the all the megalithic sites, then you would want to get through these 3 ‪Carl Munck videos below

‪Carl Munck - The Code‬ part 1



‪Carl Munck - The Code part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_GMuiRzIU0&feature=related

‪Carl Munck - The Code part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr0rJFV7LNo&feature=relmfu

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Wasn't Stonehenge possibly some sort of sun-dial?

Supasub
{Ed033's Note - It's a bit more complicated than that
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Once read a book where it was a time travel device. Was a kids fiction book though.
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Discussion #1145Talk Sense

20 May 2012 12:29:38
RECENLY a new guy has started workin with me, and he told m hes a mason, a wis askin him sum stuf bt he couldnt tellme but one thing he did say was in referance 2 jay z being a mason, he asked why do u think he called his kid ivy blue ?? i have no idea can u help me please ??
the grover

 

Freemasonrywatch dot org
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Ok, I know a mason, and the last thing they would do is tell you theyre a mason, unless it was the last thing you were being told.

{Ed033's Note - Masons can tell anybody that they are a mason but they're not allowed to talk about "masonic secrets" to non-masons and higher degree masons can't talk about the higher degree "masonic secrets" to lower degree masons.
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They dont tell people, and they dont recruit people, they must wait to be approached. Its not about what old rule books say, the real masons are supposed to swear they beleive in a higher force, the guy I know is very anti- religious and doesnt beleive in any of the gods.
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