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Discussion #1180Talk Sense

09 jun 2012 15:39:38
can humans alter probability through thoughts alone??

 

Are you referring to the dan brown novel (cant recoil the name) were positive thinking and belief of something alters the end result ?
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The presence of any observer alters the result

{Ed006's Note - The Secret?}
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"The presence of any observer alters the result"

So this theory can never be proven or disproven then?
How convenient! {Ed001's Note - doesn't mean it couldn't be true!}
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My point exactly. As it can never be disproven it can be used by bogus "New Age" gurus to sell products or get people to ascribe to their point of view.
If their is zero evidence of something we surely must reason that it does not exist/has no effect.
Otherwise we are simply making a leap of blind faith like all religious believers. {Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? It is a scientific theory, put forward by scientists, not 'bogus New Age gurus', whatever they are! It has been around for a long time, try doing some research before dismissing something as bogus. What happened to keeping an open mind and doing your own research, so that you can make up your own mind? Instead you are just glibly dismissing something, with absolutely no idea what it even is!}
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The presence of any observer alters the result......Ed006 not the Secret, its physics..quantum theory... or is that the secret?
Regards, great site btw {Ed001's Note - I think 006 was talking about the book.}
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Discussion #1179Talk Sense

07 Jun 2012 23:57:20
seen a documentary last night about Antarctica and people who have trekked it in the last 130 years and many have them have claimed to have seen ufo discs and strange frozen creatures .the most deserted place on earth, just my gut feeling but i think thats were the majority of ufos are based.
frankyscouse

 

Makes sense , franky .

Its got to be one of the most desolate places on the planet . Ideal for stuff to be kept from the public eye .

jimi88
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Well there is a claim by many that aliens have always inhabited earth, so the the majority of sightings of discs, people always assume the disc are from outer of space when they could be on our doorstop , we know less about Antarctica and under the oceans than we do about the moon, it makes you wonder.
frankyscouse
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The perfect place for all sorts of secret going's on, i honestly believe there is some sort of massive underground base there, stuff that will blow your mind..

red blancmonge
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I beileve what you guys are is saying aswell its the perfect place for secret experimentations, no one really goes there its the most isolated place on the planet im sure i heard somthing about the nazi's having a base there but it was never found wonder if its run by the same orginisation

Jedimindtricks
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Whilst the phenomenom of UFOs has never been adequately explained coupled with the do they don't they exist aliens, why on earth would you think that Antartica is a perfect place for either to have as a "base" and "ideal for stuff to be kept from the public eye."

A native occupation of that region would create a logistical nightmare in terms of resupplying everything needed to sustain an ongoing operation. Air traffic alone would be a dead giveaway to the remotely interested and the region is not exempt from satellite scrutiny.
If there was some kind of black ops thing going on, say with experimental craft, any kind of disaster that rquired some form of search/rescue/recovery would be extremely expensive and dangerous.
Where is the advantage in such a setup?

And finally, aliens, why would an entity that defies all our laws of physics choose to hide out in Antartica. Given the assumed knowledge and power of such an entity, what purpose is served by being there?

Paragon
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Discussion #1178Talk Sense

07 Jun 2012 16:43:16
Monarch Mind Control. MK Ultra?

Naz

 

Can you elaborate naz sounds intresting read a little bit not on the same page yet

Jedimindtricks
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Discussion #1177Talk Sense

06 Jun 2012 22:38:19
Went to see Prometheus the other day quite an intresting film about how they believe we where manufactured by another species

 

Seen it myself. have to say deeply dissapointed
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Thanks for that spoiler mate.

JR
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Lol jr
frankyscouse
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Its not a spoiler jr, its in the synopsis i think
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Discussion #1176Talk Sense

06 Jun 2012 16:26:43
Bilderberg Group ?

 

At least there is some mainstream media coverage, the guardian covered it, no bbc or sky, mind you if the bbc or sky said it was Wednesday , i would check a calender, lying ba*tards....
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Wearechange etc organised "occupy bilderberg" last week I think, there's allsorts of coverage of it on youtube and the like................

Matt_RFC
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The Bilderberg group is basically the New world order or supposed NWO.
They are a group of the worlds most elite who meet at a wooden cabin probably just to Blow each other and sacrifice a male virgin to their god MONEY.
Bunch of inbreds .

Kopping a feel
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Discussion #1175Talk Sense

05 Jun 2012 16:56:40
ed033, one more question. I'm guessing the crown corporation is more of an entity thats entrenched in the empire/ commonwealth and uses that as a facade. So is there an equivalent for russia or china as i'd imagine they wouldn't have any influence within those countries. Thanks for the help.

{Ed033's Note - The Crown Corporation thinks they run 1/6th of what goes on, on the surface of planet Earth. This means there are other factions that run the rest. russia and or china are apart of another faction.

At the moment we see that at least 1 faction wants war with Syria then Iran and at least 1 other faction does not. This is why I have said in the past that the Illuminati or whatever name you want to use for a ruling group cannot be 1 cohesive group like you hear from other people, but must be 2 or more factions that sometimes work together and sometimes disagree.

 

Cheers ed makes a few things clearer
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Ed are you under the impression as am I that what is going on in Syria is nothing to do at all with their president (a doctor) but like he says a terrorist organisation setup by the west to destabilise them and setup another middle east war.
I am sorry but these wars are getting more and more dubious to say the least.

Kopping a feel

{Ed033's Note - That's exactly it. Paid mercenaries and special forces are going in there to destabilise Syria, exactly like what happened in Libya. The plan would be to take out Syria then move on to Iran. It maybe that a full scale military attack would be necessary to take out Syria and this may not happen until after the US election. It's possible that immediately after the US election there could be a false flag attack which would then be blamed on Syria and Iran to give the excuse for a full scale military attack.
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Its also worth noting he is another president of a nation who was setup by the west ie- every Hussein,Bin laden (or Alqaeda cant remember) Gaddafi and im sure many more were all helped by the west to either power or helped overthrow the previous.
We have too much vested interest in the middle east for it to be healthy.As it has been said Syria and Iran are friends so by bullying Syria is this a way to get Iran involved and then taken out.In fact that is all i have heard mentioned about Syria on the news apart from the horriblle things being done is that their only friend is Iran.
With a newly acquired nuclear threat and a dictator who if he feels that his last act on earth will be to blow up a few cities is this going to be the apocalyptic event which paves the way for a NWO.

Maybe I am trying to be to complicated maybe its just for their oil as it always is.

My mate said to me the other day in the pub he was worried for his life apparently he just filled up his car and America were threatening to invade and assasinate him.

Kopping a feel
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Discussion #1174Talk Sense

05 Jun 2012 16:52:08
ed33 2nd question. How does the crown corporation affect america? Are they really independent or was that a set up? Do they follow orders from the CC or do they just do their own thing? Also who do you think will win the election in november? Who do you think would be the better one for the real powers to have as the front?

{Ed033's Note - The Federal government of the USA can do whatever they like as long as The Federal government of the USA doesn't harm or interfere with the Crown Corporation's interests. Also the Crown Corporation gives orders to The Federal government of the USA typically in order to maintain or increase the Crown Corporation's interests. This typically takes the form of using the US military in various parts of the world.

 

Like a split off branch then ok cheers
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{Ed033's Note - At the moment, I think the Republican party will win the US election.
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Discussion #1173Talk Sense

05 Jun 2012 16:48:03
Question for ed33 given the jubilee and all the fuss around an octogenarian. where does the crown corporation fit into this? Is the queen in charge and picks select people to run things? So is she calling the shots? Or is there somebody above her who runs things and she's just the fluff in the shop window so to speak? A front to occupy people like this weekend?

{Ed033's Note - There are 2 Crowns. The Crown (queen) and the Crown Corporation (Corporation run by a group of unknown people). The reason the Crown Corporation used Crown in it's name is to confuse everybody and it worked a treat. The queen maybe part of the Crown Corporation and may take orders from them but certainly doesn't run the Crown Corporation.

 

Ah ok thanks ed33, makes sense really.
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Discussion #1172Talk Sense

05 Jun 2012 17:49:33
is there any truth to the story i read that when we first 'landed' on the moon there were already 'people' on the moon - very similar to the recent film?

 

{Ed033's Note - There are ancient texts such as the indian texts that appear to talk about flying craft using weaponry not only on Earth but on the moon as well. It appears there was technology about thousands of years ago capable of getting to the moon.

So we may have to state "in the modern era" when did man first land on the moon. It may have been the secret space program that got there first "in the modern era" using black technology so when Apollo did get to the moon using black technology, there were people already there. In addition, there could also have been ETs on the moon as well.
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Discussion #1171Talk Sense

03 Jun 2012 13:22:56
So, in the last few days the news has mentioned 3 incidents of people affected by the drug nicknamed bath salts. All 3 incidents involved cannibalism to varying degrees, with the drug-taker showing animalistic signs. It's a synthetic drug that mimics the effects of Cocaine, LSD, Amphetamines. It seems to give the user super-human strength with their internal organs getting to temperatures that would normally kill them.
Rudy Eugene was the most high profile, he ate around 80% of his victims face, who remains in hospital. There were two other cases where the victim had parts or their brain eaten and heart. The drug seemed to turn the user into a zombie-like creature.
What do you guys think? Is this bath-salts a US government or military concocted thing?
The Eugene story is on the Huffington website.
Khakipillowslip

 

I really dont know what to make of this i dont know how a drug can give cannibalistic effects but there have been a few reports were this "bath salt" has really alterd the perception of the user completly are we seeing a deadly drug in action or are the users already sinister people?

Jedimindtricks
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Don't know where you get the salt idea, it was lsd, which is nothing new
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I saw this video about this cannibal attack

http://edition.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/bestoftv/2012/05/31/erin-new-pics-bath-salt-cannibal.cnn

Pepperpot
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There have been no drug tests on the man and no drugs or paraphenalia were found near his body. The bath salts/LSD idea was merely speculation from a police officer.
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"Bath salt" not normal salt of course and it isnt just purely lsd it is a mix of various uppers and it is rumoured to be the cause of a few violent events so please read before you try shoot the messenger, ignorence isnt a good look

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Discussion #1170Talk Sense

03 Jun 2012 00:24:18
Just wondering your opinions on that supposed crashed ufo/anomoly in the baltic sea? seems there is a second structure 200m from it. I was reading there that the crew who found them kept the locations a secret and were heading back to investigate the area further and apparently in that area there is no US and Russian military exercises going on and they have been banned from entering the area of the anomoly!

PmacC

{Ed033's Note - Looks like the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/29/truth-is-out-there-about-ufo-in-baltic-sea-swedish-scientists-say/

BALTIC SEA UFO: Area History And Wild Theories

 

Good find,i think its a black project craft than a ufo but a good video.
ps 44 today and was having a bbq party (still might have one) and the first time i can remember it rains,now thats a conspiracy ,catch u 2moz guys.
frankyscouse
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It does actually ed...good video!! Yeah, could be a black project craft alright Franky, either way it seems Russia and the US are very interested in it seeing as they have blocked the crew going to investigate it further from entering the area! happy birthday Franky...have a good one!!

PmacC
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Does look like secret tech wonder what its specifications are, happy birthday frankie enjoy yourself

Jedimindtricks
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Cheers boys i did have a good 1 now i am hungover need a curer .
frankyscouse
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I think its a giant ink stamp that goliath used on his passport

clt {Ed001's Note - personally I was wondering if it was a wind up to cast doubt on conspiracy theories in general. Bit like all those fake crop circles were.}
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Discussion #1169Talk Sense

02 Jun 2012 14:23:07
This is a great picture of a "mothership cloud" from a tornado on May 21, 2012 in Adrian, Tex

http://standeyo.com/NEWS/12_Pics_of_Day/120531.pic.of.day.html

Pepperpot

 

Looks like a twister m8.
frankyscouse
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Mothership. come on lad you carnt b that daft. Shorly.
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I just used the term "Mother Ship" cos it was used in the caption.

Pepperpot
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Another "mother ship" cloud formation photographed in Montana.

Pepperpot {Ed033's Note - No link to image, Pepperpot
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"mother ship" cloud formation photographed in Montana

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/582461_10150862803084290_1444205142_n.jpg

Pepperpot
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