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Discussion #700Talk Sense

03 Jan 2012 19:22:29
theo chalmers interveiwing r d halls . chalmers comes across as a patronising prat, everytime he trys to crack a joke, you can see in halls face he thinks this guy is a plank.
frankyscouse

 

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Discussion #699Talk Sense

03 Jan 2012 18:36:26
The Yanks Blew up the WTC themselves for pure greed! FACT! And they're getting away with it!

 

{Ed033's note - Anyone not clued up on 9/11 could either watch these video interviews with Dr. Judy Wood



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or should read Dr. Judy Wood's book, Where Did The Towers Go



Judy Wood Where Did The Towers Go

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Discussion #698Talk Sense

03 Jan 2012 18:14:56
So i've recently come across this site, along with various conspiracies regarding the London 2012 'Illuminati Games' on Youtube. They make compelling viewing and i have a feeling something will take place in the summer, although i hope i'm wrong. Have you seen any of these and if so what do you guys make of it? I would like to hear some others' opinions!

SN

{Ed033's Note - I have heard something may be planned for the 2012 games. There are a lot of "Illuminati Games" videos on youtube. Could you post a link to the videos you think make a compelling case for something to take place?

 

What do you mean by Illuminati games?

Just curious.

{Ed033's Note - The illuminati/nwo crowd allegedly may pull a ritual stunt at the 2012 olympic games such as use the project blue beam technology to project a hologram in the sky. This hologram could be fake ET space ships or something religious.}
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Hmmm do they usually do these sort of things?

{Ed033's Note - It's a conspiracy theory going around that the illuminati/nwo crowd seem to think the year 2012 is special to them so they may pull a silly stunt at the 2012 olympic games.}
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Just found this, freaked me out a bit haha - Welcome to the 2012 Illuminati Games

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I have a very bad feeling that something is going to happen at the Olympics,what made it even more suspicious to me was the added security costing up now half a billion pounds but more interestingly we are bringing fbi agents basically to run the whole shebang,and it was one guy chatting on ritchplanet .net about it made a point in the documents about the added security , it said if there are more than seven thousand deaths relating to so called terrorism or anything else,they have the say so to declare martial law,got a bad gut feeling about this.
frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - If they are planning something then if we are all expecting something then they will have to call it off for another time.}
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Maybe edd but only a fraction of us listen and read this stuff, maybe 5per cent of the country so they might think its worth carrying on and declaring martial law,and if that happens no internet.
frankyscouse
{Ed033's Note - We'll have to wait and see but I'm optimistic.}
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Discussion #697Talk Sense

03 Jan 2012 17:18:35
Has anyone noticed how much UFO sighting and similar stuff have been in the media over the last year? does anyone think this may be happening to "desensitize" us for when and if ET's are ever revealed? Ed anybody?


JWalk {Ed001's Note - or could it be just that there has been a huge rise in the use of drones etc by the US military?}

 

Yeah mate id say we're definatley being prepared. The amount of new programs and even tv adverts hinting at it is ridiculous. Some governments/countries would like to admit they know about E.T's now but theyre being told to hold off until the 'big' countries say something. I reckon we'll get told something soon, but when we do i imagine it'll be as little as they can get away with, and it will certainly provide more questions than answers.

LIAM
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Its true there has been more sightings, there seems to be one in papers every month or so now, i hope we do hear something soon, don't wish to sound funny or rude but getting bit bored with hearing about sightings with no concrete proof as to what it is, just wish we was told there is aliens or one would land.
{Ed033's Note - NWO/Illuminati are scared that ETs will arrive as early as the end of 2012 and remove them from power so NWO/Illuminati allegedly want to "desensitize" us.}
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Discussion #696Talk Sense

03 Jan 2012 11:59:09
Moon Landing - we have all heard possible conspiracies regarding the moon landings, did they/did they not really happen from every concievable view point.

But what about this - i haven't heard this one yet.

Say they did happen, and Neil Armstrong et did DID actually set foot of the Moon....however when they tried to send pictures back because of all the raditation etc it was not possible, SO could it be possible that it was acted out in some studio somewhere as a back up plan

plausable ..me thinks

{Ed033's Note - The manufacturers of the "space suits" have been contacted and they have said that the "space suits" are not radiation proof at all. Man has gone to the moon definitely via the secret space program that uses black technology. NASA could have gone to the moon using this black technology but all of the video was shot on Earth - watch Jay Weidner - Kubrick's Odyssey: Secrets Hidden in the Films of Stanley Kubrick - Part One to see how Stanley Kubrick faked the moon video

 

Just watched the kubrick doc and it seems a bit far out even for me that he directed the moon landing, from what i gather kubrick was a very unpredictable person to get in with and i dont think nasa/fbi would have not trusted him or killed him, just my opinon great documentary thou.
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I see where franky's coming from on that by all accounts he was hard to work with unless he had his way, i just think he would have been a bit of a loose cannon in regards to something like that. Maybe they got someone else? Lucas maybe?

{Ed033's Note - I think you may want to take a second look at this documentary because Jay Weidner is a genius himself in my opinion.}
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A very intelligent documentary edd andi agree very strange coincides but the thing that makes me think why kubrick never made it was kubrick himself, could kubrick make the moon landing? of course he could,could he be trusted with that huge secret ?he was a loose cannon at best and very volatile and even if they promised kubrick everything they wanted i dont think they could really trust him.
frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - perhaps he was a loose cannon because he knew he could get away with what he wanted? After all, what would they do to a man who is protecting such a huge secret for them?}
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What could they do to him?what they have done to many people who have known the truth, poison /kill/fake sucide/drugs overdose/gone missing. i know this is going to sound corny but the saying out of the x files," trust know one"
frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - I am sure he would have made provisions for that eventuality, and made it well known that he had done so, if he really was involved.}
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Alright edd i have put my cards on the table, so you think kubrick did make the fake moon landing?
frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - personally no, I am not convinced.}
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Discussion #695Talk Sense

03 Jan 2012 01:26:18
Hi all, been a while since I posted regularly and I have only posted maybe one post in the last 2 months if not more...

Just wanted to ask if anybody has seen Zetgeist Addendum and if so what you think of it?

I have to admit, as much as I am hooked, it is taking me some time to get my head around the concept of Sadam Hussein being a good person who was simply not corruptible. Although I can fathom that concept, and the concept that any acts of 'terrorism' by 'Sadam' that followed his refusal to succumb to American economic pressures were in fact all Red Flag jobs, like 911....I don't know. This kind of changes EVERYTHING.

Would really appreciate hearing whatever anybody has to say on this, including any Eds who wish to join in.

Raz

{Ed033's Note - I wouldn't go as far as saying Saddam Hussein was a good person. He may have treated the Sunnis well in Iraq but not the Shiites that well. Saddam Hussein was allegedly a CIA trained assassin that was part of the team that attempted to remove Iraqi "leader" at the time, General Abdul Qassim because the Anglo/American ruling class did not want another Japan on their hands because General Abdul Qassim was allegedly using the oil money to enrich the iraqi people and Qassim took 99% of Iraqi land away from the British owned Iraq Petroleum Company.

Saddam Hussein allegedly started the Iraq - Iran war at the behest of his CIA handlers. Only later did he start going against his handlers but this was possibly because he believed that he was the reincarnation of King Nebuchadnezzar and thus had to rebuild and adorn Babylon back to greatness.}

 

Everyone is corruptable, everyone has a price, its just that some are more expensive than others.

Also he did off enough minorities in iraq
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Discussion #694Talk Sense

02 Jan 2012 19:13:22
What do we think of kingdom of the crystal skull ticks a lot of conspiracy boxes so they used a few concepts that pop up on here. Aliens lost cities etc

 

The indiana jones film was crap
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{Ed033's Note - Steven Spielberg allegedly has a number of what he thinks are ET artefacts that he has acquired/purchased and occasionally shows them to people.}
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Apparantey saddam hussein also had load of ET artefacts hoarded, Ancient Sumeria is right where Baghdad is now, and without going into detail again we all know the annunaki/sumeria link. Was suggested USA were reluctant to bomb certain places because of there historical E.T related significance, theres complete ancient cities buried under a few feet of sand.

LIAM
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Yeah i know the films a bit pap but i don't think its that bad. But i menat the issues it raises like area 51, roswell, pre historic alien visitors teaching early man, lost south american cities, all these crop up on these pages, just wondered what people thought. i thought it was interesting what was raised in the film, more interesting than some of the pseudo religious stuff in the original trilogy.
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Was it peru where saucer took off, it looks like machu pichu, maybe these mayans new something about aliens, i know it sounds far fetched but you never know, its like that saying, if you told someone in 1930s we will fly a man in space you would have been laughed at.

{Ed033's Note - German rocket scientists in the 1930s wouldn't have laughed.}
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Discussion #693Talk Sense

02 Jan 2012 11:07:54
Hi this is my 1st post (not reply) on this site I was wondering what peoples thoughts are on 2pac being dead or alive? The number 7 played a big part in the conspiracy theorists anyway I have heard things in his songs that could not have been said unless he was alive for example in his song All Out in his album until the end of time released post death in 2000-1 he raps the words: you killed kadaffi murdered my friend now I built a new posse: for those who don't know kadaffi is 2pacs mums best friends kid and 1 of his best mates and was in 2pacs crew the ouwlawz anyway kadaffi got killed a month after 2pac was pronounced dead so how can he even say that line in a song if he was already dead also in same song you hear him say: you wondering who shot me (next words in distant voice) no-one: so many things are inconsistent with this death sorry for the long post and thank the eds for a great site. I'd like to hear some peoples views on this. Killah Virus

 

The only person who knows what really happend to 2pac is Snoop Dog. i don't know what to believe.

Azza
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How would snoop dog know ?
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I have never really cared before, until reading this post. I am now going to research this!
Raz
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There is an interview with snoop and pac a few days before pac died, just look at snoops face during the interview, call me paranoid but it looks like he knows something is going to happen to his friend pac?!

JWalk
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Or maybe he had just smoked a load of weed and was pickled
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Discussion #692Talk Sense

01 Jan 2012 22:28:45
First i just want to say DRUGS ARE BAD KIDS (well some are) . Anyway back in 1994 on my way to the festival i dropped some Acid and walked to the top of the Glastonbury tor. Now i had taken acid and mushrooms quite a few times before, and even in historical settings (sort of ,castles really) but the experience there was not the usual laughing at your mates and a few tricks of the mind, it was like tuning in to a different frequency in your brain (i cant believe i just wrote that, i sound very new age ) ,that area does have have special feel to it and that night i was lucid but felt i was seeing and feeling a bit of the world we do not usually see. It was the closest thing to a spirtual (not religious) experience i ever had. I never really went into it with my mates at the time, but i was talking last week to an old mate of that time who had been part of that trip(!) and without any real knowledge of my experience he proceeded to tell me of his own un-cannilly similar spiritual cosmic trip, also the only time despite having previous experience with LSD and mushrooms. It makes me wonder if the whole DMT pinial gland thing Joe Rogan talks about might be right.Has anyone else had any thing happen at these ancient sites whilst high? p.s I was younger and happier,sorry meant iresponsible then, not encouraging anyone else to take anything. JR

 

Yes mate, i use recreational drugs on the odd weekend ( im 23, i work, my body my choice) , and ive found that with trippy type drugs in particular, Acid/mushrooms etc, it sort of enables you to think a lot deeper than you ever could normally, like you can utilise parts of your mind you wouldnt normally use if that makes sense. I would say they have woken me up to a few things. Wouldnt advise anyone to use trippy drugs tho unless your strong minded, in a safe environment and with people who know what theyre doing!

LIAM
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The same could be said about weed guys, It completely opens your mind.

Azza
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It opens my mind to biscuits and sleep mate :)

LIAM
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LIAM, you obviously haven't been in the 'zone' yet lol.

Azza
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This is really interesting because for years spiritual shamans etc have used hallucinogens to 'talk to their gods' etc etc.

Apart from when I've been baked off my tits and gone to bed and stared at the wall, I've only tripped twice. Er..well, I have taken mushrooms on two successful occasions put it that way, but I was, as recommended by everyone except mushroom users who say go do it in a field on a summer's day, tucked up in my living room with a few mates who weren't getting mashed, I had the trip and experience of my life, but nothing spiritual as such.

I would be interested to hear more though, especially from people who have done it at sacred/high energy areas.

Raz
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Discussion #691Talk Sense

31 Dec 2011 20:39:22
anyone want to give me an opinion on Ian R Crane

 

I don't believe Ian R. Crane is the Antichrist like David Shayler has alleged
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{Ed033's note - I think Ian R. Crane is now doing a great job of educating people by putting on presentations.}
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Not that sure on his views regarding peak oil . JR
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Discussion #690Talk Sense

31 Dec 2011 15:45:57
Anyone explain why we have new year in january in the middle of the winter? When it would be more logical to have it in spring at the start of the cycle of the seasons.

 

Erm, you know we're not the centre of the world right and different countries are in different seasons than us.
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Erm you do know the whole calender was decided 2000 years ago back with the greeks and romans when most of the world were uncivilised.
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Erm you do know some other countries celebrate new years on different dates
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Erm, it is only 400 odd years old= not 2000 yr old.

{Ed033's Note - The Gregorian calendar we use is an updated version of the Julian calendar started under Julius Cesar after the Romans found out some secrets from Egyptian priests in Egypt.}
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Discussion #689Talk Sense

31 Dec 2011 14:11:26
Good to see so many of you are waking up! The majority of the peolpe in UK and the USA have been conditioned to fall in line with how the governments want to use you and abuse you but it is only a matter of time before we make a stand and say no to these dictators who have no intentions of democrasy and judt want to line their pockets with our hard earned cash.

 

Who's woken up? This is a site where a bunch of football fans come to talk about the random and weird when they've had enough of the football. None of us are likely to be picketing Downing Street at any time. Nothing will ever change because there is always more sheep to compley than those who are "awake"
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I came from the hockey site, but I'm canadian so its basically the same
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I see the above posters point, if people 'wake' up and realise whats going on, then what? What do you want to happen after everyone is awoken? Will we just all start dividing up the land and money, then start hunting and gathering our own crops?

Also what is the end game of the so called dictators, some of the people on here talk about old established families running the entire global economy, but what do they do with the money? Surely they have amassed enough money over the last centuries that they have all the money they ever need, why the constant striving to get more? I just struggle to see their final motivation.
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I think its my point your replying to. Apologies if that sounded harsher than it was meant to.

I do think people are waking up to whats going on. Certainly my own viewpoint had changed over last couple of months.

I do think you raise 2 very good points. Firstly the one i was trying to say, what do we do when awake?

Secondly whats the motivation, it can't be financial as you point out.
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Hi poster, yes, I was replying to your post. Like yourself I stumbled upon this site a couple of months ago and it has certainly spurred my interest in delving a little deeper into the happenings of the world. I suppose in some sense I have had my eyes opened, some of which I have agreed with and others just too far fetched to come on board with.

I certainly believe that we are constantly spoon fed and orchestrated into our views and opinions based on the whims of the media, this had never occured to me until I happened upon this site, in that sense I have 'awoken'.

However I think both of us have asked a fundemental question, that I would be keen for others to debate, in that what is the ultimate motivation or end game for the establishment?
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