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I understand what you are proposing ed but the fact of the matter is although these animals have a heightened intelligence that you would associate say to a monkey say a social creature witha rudimentary language and maybe a few characteristics that are interesting but nothing astounding.
Surely the whole thing cant be down to apposable thumbs as well I mean an intelligence like ours could get over losing these thumbs now we are so more advanced than anything we know of on this planet but why us why not the dolphin how come they have not evolved at the excelerated rate underwater that we have on land they have the intelligence and known to use tools they have a language and are social creatures who learn from others but they seem like they are millions and millions of years behind us.
im just wandering how come they surely have been on this planet the same amount of time as us and maybe even longer why no change in the shark physically in millions of years why has the crocodile not changed in millions of years surely the argument that we are stunting the growth in evolution on this planet of every other creature doesnt wash.
Its like we are excelerated somehow or maybe we have been here before(my personal view on it)and that we havent actually evolved as such but just always been the fastest too adapt until our earth recycles and then we are doomed to repeat the process.
seems like the sea is either holding back which could be the case but to believe we are the product of so many coincidental flukes that must have all happened simultaneously (obviously not to the dot) that it makes no sense.

Kopping a feel {Ed001's Note - like I said, the use of tools underwater, in most cases, provides little advantage, unlike the ability to swim fast. Killer whales are massively intelligent, they have learnt to turn sharks upside down, to take advantage of tonic immobility. Captive Orca have shown to hold a grudge against keepers they don't like, and bide their time for a chance to get them. Why do they need to evolve to use any more tools than their body? They use their tails to create a wash to flush seals off ice floes, they work together as a team. Why do they need to evolve further? They have become apex predators in the sea, they are still learning to become more efficient and learn new skills. Perhaps, in time, they will evolve further, but I do think it just casts doubt on how long humanity has been evolving. We certainly never reached the stage we are at, through pure evolution, in such a short time frame as is claimed.}

Apparently chemicals were sprayed over the houses of Israel by large helicopters as well

UFO seen over Israel Azerbaijan Jordan Lebanon & Turkey

We do i enjoyed that one franky cheers..

red blancmonge

We all agree then Antarctica has many secrets .
frankyscouse

Are you referring to the dan brown novel (cant recoil the name) were positive thinking and belief of something alters the end result ?

Thanks for that edd,still if maps can be produced as accurate as they were even earlier than 1513 it really makes you wonder what is so secretive about the place..love it ..

red blancmonge {Ed001's Note - that map is one of the main reasons I believe the Mayans were correct about there being previous ages of man. I think we have been around a lot longer than modern science tells us, there is far too much evidence of high technology around from ancient times. Plus, it must be said, if the theory of evolution is correct, there is no way humans evolved in such a short space of time.}

Paragon i never mentioned anything about black ops , all we know is the Nazis and Russia having a base there and your arguments against Antarctica being to remote is right but for human beings, most of the disc sightings have been in low populated areas,it makes sense if you want to hide something you put it in a deserted place,
frankyscouse

Being the Hub at the centre of the world, Antarctica is the perfect control point.
The US NAVY controls who goes to Antarctica, what for, and for how long.

It contains many mysteries (to us) of the un-known (known to one).

Aurora Australis eminates from there.

It has been a base since at least before the last ice-age.

Mr October (formerly the renegade pea)

The name of the group who apparently run the antartica are known as the jason society and also there is a map called the piri reiss which was accuratley produced in constantinople in 1513..

red blancmonge {Ed001's Note - no mate, the Piri Reis map was COPIED from a prior map in 1513, not produced in 1513. It is the map which Columbus used to convince people to back him in his attempt to sail round the world the 'wrong way'. But it was known to be a copy taken from a much much older map.}

The Bilderberg group is basically the New world order or supposed NWO.
They are a group of the worlds most elite who meet at a wooden cabin probably just to Blow each other and sacrifice a male virgin to their god MONEY.
Bunch of inbreds .

Kopping a feel

Its also worth noting he is another president of a nation who was setup by the west ie- every Hussein,Bin laden (or Alqaeda cant remember) Gaddafi and im sure many more were all helped by the west to either power or helped overthrow the previous.
We have too much vested interest in the middle east for it to be healthy.As it has been said Syria and Iran are friends so by bullying Syria is this a way to get Iran involved and then taken out.In fact that is all i have heard mentioned about Syria on the news apart from the horriblle things being done is that their only friend is Iran.
With a newly acquired nuclear threat and a dictator who if he feels that his last act on earth will be to blow up a few cities is this going to be the apocalyptic event which paves the way for a NWO.

Maybe I am trying to be to complicated maybe its just for their oil as it always is.

My mate said to me the other day in the pub he was worried for his life apparently he just filled up his car and America were threatening to invade and assasinate him.

Kopping a feel

Well I have heard and hope someone will have some more info on this but will go ahead anyway.
I heard that anyone who wants to trek the most desolated place on earth has to write to an international group dont know the name but believe its basically controlled by the United nations explaining their exact positions and which route they will take.
Then they have to have background checks and the route has to avoid certain locations and are probably monitored all the way from one point to the other.
It just seems strange to me that what is basically an ice cube seems to have so much red tape surrounding it.There are lots of theorys to this my personal favourite being that a colony of sub human was found by the nazis but realistically I believe that it is where the whole world is watching the incoming Nibiru (I know its a planet) comet which is being sent our way as it is coming from a southern angle and can only be monitored by placing the telescope on the Antarctic.

Please let me know what you have heard as I know my info is vague.

Kopping a feel

Ed are you under the impression as am I that what is going on in Syria is nothing to do at all with their president (a doctor) but like he says a terrorist organisation setup by the west to destabilise them and setup another middle east war.
I am sorry but these wars are getting more and more dubious to say the least.

Kopping a feel

{Ed033's Note - That's exactly it. Paid mercenaries and special forces are going in there to destabilise Syria, exactly like what happened in Libya. The plan would be to take out Syria then move on to Iran. It maybe that a full scale military attack would be necessary to take out Syria and this may not happen until after the US election. It's possible that immediately after the US election there could be a false flag attack which would then be blamed on Syria and Iran to give the excuse for a full scale military attack.

Whilst the phenomenom of UFOs has never been adequately explained coupled with the do they don't they exist aliens, why on earth would you think that Antartica is a perfect place for either to have as a "base" and "ideal for stuff to be kept from the public eye."

A native occupation of that region would create a logistical nightmare in terms of resupplying everything needed to sustain an ongoing operation. Air traffic alone would be a dead giveaway to the remotely interested and the region is not exempt from satellite scrutiny.
If there was some kind of black ops thing going on, say with experimental craft, any kind of disaster that rquired some form of search/rescue/recovery would be extremely expensive and dangerous.
Where is the advantage in such a setup?

And finally, aliens, why would an entity that defies all our laws of physics choose to hide out in Antartica. Given the assumed knowledge and power of such an entity, what purpose is served by being there?

Paragon

^ i know what you are saying i have done the same and i like your theory but as you were saying its mostly methedrone what if it was cut with another substance an it was this "substance" that caused these violent motions, the man who done the crime was a man of god and it wouldnt have been very religeous to do the acts he did his persona and phyke turned animalistic it would be over looking it to say nothing else came into play and he went off the rails becuse to stomach human raw flesh from a living person have to be High of somthing, this man acted very out of the ordinary to me

Jedimindtricks

Wearechange etc organised "occupy bilderberg" last week I think, there's allsorts of coverage of it on youtube and the like................

Matt_RFC

{Ed033's Note - At the moment, I think the Republican party will win the US election.

The drug 'bath salts' is mostly made up of another drug Methedrone or 'meow meow' as the media called it.
Having taken drone many times and experienced no bad side effects and knowing who have taken 'bath salts' without severe unwanted effects i would say that it's just anti-drug scaremongering.
Very easy for the media to blame the abnormal on drug's, i would look at the people committing the acts without automatically blaming it on anything they may have taken

I beileve what you guys are is saying aswell its the perfect place for secret experimentations, no one really goes there its the most isolated place on the planet im sure i heard somthing about the nazi's having a base there but it was never found wonder if its run by the same orginisation

Jedimindtricks