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Nah dean would not listen to immortal, the guy is latino, so he would defo not listen JMT either .

JWalk

Auto erotic asphixiation is a "cult" class ic ;)

JWalk

Symbolism followed by more symbolism. Remember symbolism is for the simple minded, love that quote

Big D

Death by tennis players.

Supasub

Your right a about some of it dean but tupac DID write some crap killilumanti was good fair enough but it doesnt mean he had a message throught all his songs it is not becuse we are white that we see passed him he was a revoultionary but he could of been so much more, immortal technique has progressed so much more than pac give that man a listen to and educate yourself, how can somone who likes hiphop even be a racist thats some messed up s**t, im white and i understand hiphop and all its complexitys dont judge a man on there skin
Jedimindtricks

Wow, your just so much fun.

Yip the start of the olympics
red rrab

People look for inspiration when there young they look for a role model type somone who can show them the path to enlightenment but these days there are no decent role models people who look up to 50pence and lil wayne what is there music saying that we should all treat women wrong and go spend are money on drugs cause its fun? Thats just wrong they take rap and rape it of its heritage, look at pac hes used as a media tool most young people dont pick up on what he stood for and just think he was cool cuse he was a gangster i bet giving a choice none of them would want to grow up the way they did but thats what slums are like and to break out of it takes hardwork so respect is due where its deserved
Jedimindtricks

Jedimindtricks its not a racism issue at all. Im merely saying that Ed001 and the white community in generally are not very well versed in the true motivations of 2pac, they only know what they have been fed by the media.

After he came out of prison he was a completely different person and the media doesnt want people to know this. His album titled "killuminati" speaks volumes and if you guys know anything about the people that run the music industry and the world you will know that 2pac was the biggest threat to them forwarding their agenda.

2pac introduced me and many others to how the world is really governed...without him I would not be on this page in the first place and I would not have questioned the world at all. He is a revolutionary and I find it quite unbelievable that anyone could think otherwise, it seems to only be the white community that doesnt appreciate the good things he was trying to do.

People only remember the drugs or the girls or his obnoxious attitude but they forget the positive messages he was trying to spread...people have selective memory it seems, especially the white community.

You name me one prominent artist or politician that came out and waged war against the powers that be in the fashion 2pac did? 2pac did several interviews and many songs where he expressed his desire to change the world into a better place yet you guys only remember the songs where he's degrading women or talking about drugs?

The same with Michael Jackson. He was all about spreading positivity and exposing the powers that be yet some people only remember him for the drugs and molestation charges. Always seems to be the black men that never get the credit they deserve.

In one of 2pacs last interviews he declares that he will set up his own government and turn the world on its head...can you imagine how many millions of people he would have woken up if he'd still been alive? He never got the opportunity to make the changes he was so passionate about.

He's an inspirational man and Ed001 you clearly have no idea what you are talking about if you think otherwise. Go and read up on some black history and then come back to me bro...if 2pac was white I dont think we'd be having this conversation.

Dean {Ed001's Note - you are a racist, if you think the colour of my skin makes any difference to my understanding of his music. You have no idea lad. We wouldn't be having this conversation because you would be bitching about racism if anyone said you didn't understand his music because you were black. You have proven just how easily the media manipulates people into believing idiotic things like skin colour being of any difference.}

Ok, I've spent some time up in Scotland, in the glens and on the coast, where the RAF train extensively at low-level. In general, you hear it before you see it at sub-sonic & although it's unmistakably a supersonic jet, from my experience, I'd say that the Typhoon in the 2nd clip was definitely sub-sonic.
The 1st clip could have been a super, as the aircraft is nowhere in shot, but there is a lot of cloud cover, so it's hard to tell.
The Eurofighter Typhoon is such an advanced aircraft that any failure from any of it's multiple onboard systems would result in the plane becoming virtually unflyable, making the malfunction and 'dive' story plausible. However, unless it stuck the throttle open and pointed the nose down, I doubt it would become a super-sonic dive. The pilots, who survived, would have had no time to react and rectify the issue, they would have died, simple. The theory of the explanation is ok, the realities of it are very fishy.
The thing that piqued my interest from the 2nd clip was the jet circling to re-investigate the heavy cloud cover to the left. What was that pilot looking for?
Khakipillowslip

Whole thing makes me laugh. Why do people how musicians, of any sort, in high esteem?
The pronouncements of anyone with a recording contract should always be taken with a pinch of salt. They are on the public stage or either their image or talent, not their thoughts of life. {Ed001's Note - when they get that contract, they do as they are told anyway.}

I remember reading that he had died of an "adrenal rush" which was notable, not to mention mysterious sounding.

TRP.

"..his date of birth is 9/11/40... (the 40 bit isn't strange)"

Mum's the word..

Edd001 i respect how you know your stuff krs-1 was a lyrical monster, dean i think its racist to call us out as white people dont know anything thats where your wrong tupac was in the struggle yes he fought for his peoples rights and dis some amazing songs but at the time he was on top of the world if he wanted to change this earth he could of, with ryhmes all about guns bitches hoes and fighting wheres the message stand out for the average person to see? He was indulged in to much wealth and became a pawn to suge night tupac should be respected but not placed as high as other revoulutionarys, immortal techinque and canibus are ones without the hoe and money talk the real revoulutionists they speak the truth far greater than anything pac,biggie,emeinem can offer, pac and biggie where killed emeniem was hushed and the real greatest ever big pun and big L are forgotten its a shame, treat humans all the same dont judge us on are skin
Jedimindtricks

{Ed033's Note - New 9 11 Video Analysis by Richard D Hall (Part 1)

Im still can not find the orginal tv fottage i saw on tv last week of the 2 jets going sonic boom in the midland last week . has anybody got this footage ? ive found a few videos shot on the day of the event but what i can tell non of these are of the jets going sonic boom ? as this footage totally vanisish of the face of the planet ? the footage im looking for does not show any jets but u can here noise but the cloud coverage is high so you can not see the jets. these ae what ive found so far
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-hZL3l0xB0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHXKZa4KSJs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES45rygrB0o
can any one please tell why the stories in the media keep getting changed to. one minute it was a accident . next it was a unidentified object ? that was not there when they got to the area . then it was a helicopter . this fottage ive found only shows one jet . they say to . one you can here noise but its not a jet going sonic boom >>>> and where is the footage from the news that day . sems to have just vanished which im sure u can hear one jet going sonic boom

Ed001 sorry but you white folk have no idea what you are on about.

2Pac was a revolutionary, he wanted to change the world and had ideals of creating his own government. He was totally anti illuminati and anti state and is the only prominent celebrity bar, john lennon, who was brave enough to take on the powers that be.

Type in "2pac illuminati interview" on youtube and watch the many interviews he did where he exposed the government and spoke about his aim to get every black man off the streets and his desire to be a positive influence on the youth. 2pac was a threat due to his influence and he waged a war against the powers that be...this is why he was taken out.

I dont wanna start a silly debate or argue with you but the black community hold 2pac in a an extremely high regard in a similar way as we do for malcolm x and martin luther king...the guy is an inspiration. There are people in life that just sit back and do nothing and there are people that are bold and want to make positive changes in the world...2pac was the latter.

This is a classic example of the mainstream media defaming a very decent human being due to him being a threat...your views on the man are that of the media who have fed you lies and propanganda about the man.

You need to go and watch some interviews of Tupac on youtube trying to open peoples mind about how the world is really run and then you will completely change your view on him.

Dean {Ed001's Note - hahaha you are a fool if you think Lennon was anything either. He did nothing bar pay lip service and get high. Neither of them did anything to change the world bar talk about it. I have watched hundreds of interviews with Tupac, he offers nothing. He allowed himself to be played by Suge Knight.}

There's a project Camelot video with a little Russian boy and a documentary called boy from Bara. Bothe these are worth a watch

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