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Well said the unamed poster about his Dads stories. Had similar talks as well, some right horror stories.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

And don't forget a lot of non Liverpool fans signed that petition and the other more recent Kevin Williams one as well.

You may have been in the wrong about recent events and you have looked bad in a lot of peoples eyes, its a sensitive topic in our modern multi-cultural society and i for one am fed up of hearing about Evra and Suarez.

But Hillsborough is a different issue and i feel that all decent football fans support you and also want the truth to come out.

That sort of thing could have happened at any football ground in the 80's, it could have been the fans of any club, it was a ticking bomb waiting to go off.

Thats why all decent fans of a certain age support you, we've all been to those grounds, remember the fences and the attitudes of the various police forces at the time.

You have a lot of support in this issue, and they may try and sweep it under the carpet again but we, the fans, should stick together and force it all out.

Its an interesting case and a legal minefield i am sure. I would say that no it should be illegal as well. But if you can get away with it then people will try, its a very grey area after all.

Yes Hapggood is the best theory around, i would recommend anyone looking up a book by Rand Flem-Ath that first introduced me to Hapgood, and he has a good theory on the Flood, Atlantis and how certain sacred sites around the world all tend to be 10 degrees away from each other if you move the prime meridan to Giza. he also think Atlantis is in Antarctica, that its the ebst fit for Plato's description. Really check it out guys. Mort.

Antarctic Lake Drilling Race Nears Close as Russians Drill Through Ice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kNl6ziJVaJ4

I think Suarez just overstepped the mark. Up to being found guilty he was one of those type of players I like at my own club like say Keane or Cantona. Unfortunately for Liverpool his actions will be scrutinised by everyone for the time being knowing how our media work making his position at the club difficult, just for being caught out. I don't think it is related to the other far more important issue of those documents being released and what they contain. You can bet though that if it does show any fault lying at the feet of police or politicians then the s**t fan will be rotated by them blowing in the direction of LFC.

Supasub

I see your point, Ed002 won't post that it is on another page though. It is very relevant. I know I don't own the site but it would be of alot of interest to most football fans I think.
I will leave it there though in the hope that one day someone higher up asks difficult questions.

Supasub

Well said un-named poster!

JWalk

Not sure if it has anything to do with Hillsborough although LFC are getting some major slack...It could just be as simple as Fergie being a Knight and what he says goes

How old are the sea's mate since when have scientists gave a crap about preservation if they did they wouldnt cut down the rainforests

MJ

If it were ever proven illegal in such case and I personally think it is, then say in 10 years time when someone down the line seriously looks at it then Barca could potentially be retrospectivelly stripped of certain tiles/trophies.
Meaning the runners up would be possibly handed titles. No club would want to benefit in that way but they could, it probably won't happen anyway.
Out of interest did Ed002 not post because he thought I was just spewing rubbish or because of some other issue?

Supasub

Supasub {Ed001's Note - I would think he thought it a bit of a can of worms to open, especially if it was posted on a United site with Stam's drug issues etc. It could have been that he thought it was posted to cause hassle on there by an opposing fan.}

Many thanks for posting Ed, I understand why it would'nt get posted on this or another page and apologies to regular users of this page because there are more important/interesting issue's here normally.

Supasub {Ed001's Note - it is something that has intrigued me as well, reading about the treatment Messi had, it seems strange that it is allowable.}

The reason the security is pretty tight is because the lake could be 15 to 20 million years old and the scientists are being very careful not to contaminate it as there might be unusual types of life that has remained untouched ....just a thought

I have just read up on the Piri Reis map, that is very ineteresting, have you heard any theories on how that was possible, its mind blwoing that in apprx 6,000-4,000bc 'people' had the ability to draw such a detailed map that we can only comfirm by technology years on.....defo something dodgy with this one. {Ed001's Note - have you heard of Hapgood's earth slip theory? That is probably the best theory I have seen to explain a number of phenomena, such as the Great Flood. But it would also explain how it could be possible for technology to have regressed.}

Im 48 my Dad would have been 88 ( he died just over 25 years ago) He had friends in the "Fellowship" an X-Servicemen's organisation which I believe is still operating today. In the late 70s I met many of these X Solders of WW2 . These were ordinary guys from the North East of England Miners,Shipyard workers men from all walks of life. Some had been at the battle of Arnhem. My Dad was at Tobruk, Serlono, The 1st wave of D Day and fought all the way to Berlin. My Dad a Painter in the shipyards before and after the War . He saw horrors we can only dream about in our darkest night mares. His friends I met were from all different regiments, some had been captured by the Japanese. My Dad saw the camps and knew people who were there at their liberation. Special diets had to be given to the Inmates of these camps as they couldnt eat certain whole foods it would have killed them. My Father's generation are disappearing with each passing year. ( the last person to serve in WW1 just died the other day, a woman who was 110 years old, the last serving man died last year from that conflict) It pains me and shames the honour of these people who gave so much when I read what has been written at the start of this thread. What ordinary folk had to go through to defend their/our way of life from tyranny. The thought and content at the start of this thread is shameful. Do your research properly and bow your head in shame for the insult you have cast to those who fought true evil.

They went into the chambers naked because they were told they were having shows to delouse them!

Is this anything to do with the piri reis map in Fingerprints of the Gods?

stee {Ed001's Note - yes.}

No fly zone, 20 years diging, very secret about all goings on - the initial announcement then nothing, no pictures or anything. UFO or Nazi technology supposedly in this rea during war. Very suspect. Also isnt there a map infamous for detailing all of this 15th century i believe but was a map of land under all the ice, something they couldn't have known back then and it was proved to be very accurate..... {Ed001's Note - the map you refer to was a copy of an ancient map made in the 15th century. No one actually knows when the original was made.}

No you gather information from dodgy holocaust denial websites rather than something that was made based on veterans testimony from when they happened to find such a place, all i said was go watch it to see what they had to say on it or go read the orginal book which was pieced together with interviews from the surviving veterans and came out years before the tv series.

Or go read the accounts of British vets who were at Belsen, go study the photo's or read the surviving inmates testimony.

Thought this might be a touchy subject, I'll remain open minded about it as I am about 9/11 and why our soldiers are occupying countries in the name of peace at the same time as building gas pipelines in them. And for the record, I dont gather information that sways my thoughts from Speilberg Tv series, as good as it was.

Matt_RFC