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Reply · Corleonea · 18 Aug 2017 10:30
17 Aug 2017 23:51:48
Very good point, indeed why is it so secret, very interesting. I doubt we'll ever know 100%.

'Let's put it this way, they are 100% lying to us and either they don't want us to know what's out there or they don't have the super high tech to know what's out there. '

Exactly, they are lying to us, that is fact, like they do about everything else as you well know. I believe the technology is there, but whether it's been tested yet is another matter, I don't think it has. We haven't got close to what's out there because I don't believe we can, yet.
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Reply · hsf · 18 Aug 2017 10:30
18 Aug 2017 02:40:11
My opinion of flat Earth is easy to find on the forums, but to cut it short I don't believe in it at all, if you'd like to see why, you can see it in the search function, it should be pretty easy to find. ^_^

On NASA and all things space, I think we went to the moon, I think a lot of the evidence to suggest we haven't is easily explained, however there are definitely some anomalies and questions that do need answering.

Can I ask, CTR why you think the stuff from Hubble etc is all lies?
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Reply · CTR · 18 Aug 2017 10:30
18 Aug 2017 07:42:25
As my mum always tells me, I have a suspicious mind lol.

One thing I have found out is the amount of theory they now simply pass off as facts.
Take evolution for example, that is simply a theory with no concrete evidence imo but it is now taught in schools as fact. We now have a generation coming through that won't question it at all.

I can't prove the world is round or flat so doing so is something I'm not comfortable doing. But what I find very interesting is reaction to it. I have never known a reaction to a conspiracy like it. Ppl get angry.

Ppl will tell u flat out the Queen is a lizard but when u say the world is flat they call u crazy and can get abusive. That intrigues me so much, it's like brainwashing in a cult. If u go against a cult that is exactly the reaction u would expect.

I believe admiral Byrd found something big in Antarctica.

The simulation theory I will look into more as I can't really comment that well without reading into it more.

Southampton, I agree they can't measure curvature or rotation which should send alarm bells ringing imo. If I'm told something as fact but in order to believe it is have to take someone's word for it who themselves have not seen it or can't measure it I'm no different than the people believing there's a man on a cloud watching over me. It's just faith then. I have been lied to, to much to take the word of government.
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Reply · southampton87 · 17 Aug 2017 22:18
17 Aug 2017 22:10:36
Yes I agree with both.
But that is exactly how I look at it and where problem does exist.
the concept runs into a lot of criticism, but when u get past the obvious problems like is there an edge, or if we are not a globe what with the magnetics of it how would this be possible.

But I still cannot find anywhere where they have proven curvature in all mass bodies of water that points to the earth size. considering were 72% water to land apparently .

And why have there been so many attempts to prove the earth is moving and fail.
And the ones they say have been questionable and could easily be manipulated through math as they do.

Also why is no one allowed to go to Antarctica without special permission
And companys in controlled areas.
But do I think the earth is flat, no.

But what if admiral Byrd was right and when he flew over the Antarctic there really was a continent the size of America and a government there to.
And as you say when u look it proves a lot more they talk of is psychological more than the actual reality.

But also as ed says it does also have the opposite
Where if there is real next level tech out there then
The science we're judging things on are bound to be wrong.
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Reply · CTR · 17 Aug 2017 22:09
17 Aug 2017 21:36:58
Haha hello buddy.

I really believe we can't go above it atm mate.

When u actually look through the stuff nasa and other space organisations throw out u realise it's all guff.

The pics they show are composites the info they put out all seems amazing but they don't explain how they have all these magic tools to give us them.

When u actually think how far back they have been putting this stuff out it amazing.

From the hubble telescope to the galelao satalite.

I believe in aliens 100% I just don't think they come from another planet per say.

The earth being flat intrigues me.
The momentum it is getting seems all very strange to me.

I honestly believe Antarctica holds a lot of answers to us.
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Reply · hsf · 17 Aug 2017 10:04
17 Aug 2017 10:58:34
Best of two evils.

I won't lie, I actually thought Trump was just banging the drum and pandering to the people to win votes. I thought once in office, he'll be the same as they all have been. Nope, he's still an enormous bellend.

As for Hillary, I'm going to apologise for this in advance Ed, but she's a malignant See You Next Tuesday. That's the least offensive way I can put it.
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Reply · southampton87 · 16 Aug 2017 22:55
16 Aug 2017 21:31:12
Yes hsf I too believe most ufos seen are human built,
Dr Greer has some good info on it.
Only thing I think is a bit of are the meet ups he talks of and photos of (extra dimensional beings)
But u never know .
And I get the heads up cheers
Lol.
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Reply · CanIbeTheKing · 16 Aug 2017 22:55
16 Aug 2017 19:49:05
Thanks for the reply Ed.

That's a really in-depth list and yeah i can see exactly where you're coming from. The influence of alternative media to my mind has been the biggest thing. It seemed as if Clinton was satan's daughter looking at certain sources.

I think people had just become sick of these political dynasties that became so obvious in America, perhaps less overt elsewhere but probably prevalent also. Either way, having to choose between those 2 is a sad indictment of America really.
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Reply · hsf · 16 Aug 2017 14:29
16 Aug 2017 15:15:30
This is the thing though, people automatically assume a UFO is aliens, when the reality is, it's just unidentified.

I live near Amesbury and they have an RAF base (Boscombe). When I was working a few years ago in the summer, we saw multiple strange aircraft taking off and landing. All different shapes it was kind of crazy. I actually thought Aliens had landed at first! But it was fairly obvious that it was just testing after a closer look.

I've also heard a few "booms" at night which could be sonic booms from an aircraft such as the Aurora. But, I live near Salisbury plains and they have regular tank/ artillery drills there. Oh and a pro-tip for you guys. Don't EVER go onto Salisbury plains at night.

1). You don't know what you're stepping on such as unexploded shells.

2). Tanks do not stop easily (don't ask! )

3). The ammunition they use is LIVE.

4). When being escorted off, they're not very polite about it ¬_¬ Especially to 14 year old kids who are just exploring 8-) lol.
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Reply · southampton87 · 15 Aug 2017 23:15
15 Aug 2017 22:54:00
One good bit of footage that hasn't been proven fake or tampered hsf.
Is a ufo hovers in Jerusalem flashes then takes off.
nothing they build at the minuet with the tech they admit to having, is possible to do that.
Literally takes off in a flash.
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Reply · southampton87 · 15 Aug 2017 23:15
15 Aug 2017 23:01:32
Also I will add
Two weeks ago I saw three lights in a triangle.
Not the hole thing if it was anything at all just lights through the cloud traveling north west had not a whimper of sound.
Where there was so many clouds I only see it for two seconds then thick cloud blocked it from view.

I wasn't even going to mention it where I see it so briefly and as you do it makes you question whether you see anything.
But thinking about it I deffently see something slip through the clouds to big to be a commercial drone.
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Reply · Corleonea · 15 Aug 2017 08:30
15 Aug 2017 09:07:51
Interesting discussion, learn something new everyday :) thanks all.
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Reply · Corleonea · 15 Aug 2017 08:28
15 Aug 2017 09:03:45
Personally I think he will be took out, I think something big is coming in regards to North Korea and I genuinely believe he'll be assassinated. The next few months will be critical for his life or presidency.
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Reply · OIrish Kev 1 · 14 Aug 2017 16:57
14 Aug 2017 15:54:10
Very interesting read, thanks guys.
I guess we'll likely never know which is probably best lol.
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Reply · hsf · 14 Aug 2017 16:57
14 Aug 2017 16:33:37
I will be honest Ed, I find the geometry stuff really difficult to believe. I'd imagine we'd see similar patterns with satellite views of arid deserts on Earth or on the Moon.

There has also been evidence of straight lines used in nature (although it is exceptionally rare).



Sunrise, Tessellated Pavement, Eaglehawk Neck, Tasman Peninsula, Tasmania, Australia

"According to Dr. Chloe Bulinski, a Professor of Biology at Columbia University, straight lines are all around us, from the compound eyes of insects to the collagen fibers in connective tissue. Dr. Bulinski cites Tasmania’s Tessellated Pavement, an inter-tidal rock platform that looks like the floor tiles in your kitchen, as a particularly fine example of naturally occurring straight lines. "




Pyrite Cubes are a natural formation.



Basalt Columns
"It is the nature of basaltic lava cooling that allows this to happen: this lava is hotter and moves faster than other kinds. As it cools from the bottom up and from the center outward, long fractures form columns that at times take on astoundingly clear-cut hexagons. The whole process is called columnar jointing"
-google answers

There are a few good examples of angles in those pictures too.
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Reply · hsf · 14 Aug 2017 16:57
14 Aug 2017 16:44:36
I would also like to go on and state that I really want there to be proof of ET life, either present or historically. It's something I've looked at for years and the reason I bought a telescope to be honest with you, I just wanted to see a UFO! Lol.

As I've said before on here, there are astronomical numbers that more or less prove we are not alone. As our galaxy alone has an estimated 100 billion stars, a large percentage have planets around them. So if you apply that theory to the rest of the galaxies in the universe and we're talking about the possibility of trillions of planets. There is no way that the the Earth is a 1 in a trillion.

That being said, I've seen no evidence that 100% proves it. There are circumstantial bits of evidence, a few anomalies here and there and a few questionable testimonies / confessions but nothing definitive. Yet.
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Reply · southampton87 · 14 Aug 2017 14:14
14 Aug 2017 15:05:26
Look for the Dark side of the moon lol.
The face once caught my eye when they came out but then I watched a doc with more images and apparently it's shade cast as it moves kind of ruined it.
I also see the lines mention and that too looked interesting .
They also claim to have a picture they claim is similar to the Grand Canyon.
Apart from that they have it first before releasing.
And they apparently employ people to air brush things out they don't want people to see.
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