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Reply · CTR · 19 Aug 2017 21:50
CTR · 19 Aug 2017 21:5019 Aug 2017 22:01:01
HSF
Isn't it more about believing it's heliocentric than geocentric? I may be confused or prob totally wrong as I'm sure u can tell I'm not a physics teacher.
I look at it simple because I'm not a physics teacher and I can only go off what my point of view tells me.
If u tell me there's a curve to the earth I would expect to see clear proof then my simple brain will get it lol. If u tell me water can curve well prove to me it can be done.
If you tell me we can go to space show me a video of us leaving earth's orbit.
Surley that's just normal to want to see things proven.
My grandmother tells me god is real but once I got old enough to question it is realised she couldn't prove it so I stopped believing.
Science has replaced religion to an extent but the faith element is still the same when it comes to space and Earth.
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Isn't it more about believing it's heliocentric than geocentric? I may be confused or prob totally wrong as I'm sure u can tell I'm not a physics teacher.
I look at it simple because I'm not a physics teacher and I can only go off what my point of view tells me.
If u tell me there's a curve to the earth I would expect to see clear proof then my simple brain will get it lol. If u tell me water can curve well prove to me it can be done.
If you tell me we can go to space show me a video of us leaving earth's orbit.
Surley that's just normal to want to see things proven.
My grandmother tells me god is real but once I got old enough to question it is realised she couldn't prove it so I stopped believing.
Science has replaced religion to an extent but the faith element is still the same when it comes to space and Earth.
Reply · CTR · 19 Aug 2017 20:06
CTR · 19 Aug 2017 20:0619 Aug 2017 16:21:08
Southampton that is the math we are given mate.
The globe is 25000 miles approx in circumference which equates to that formula.
Balloons have been sent up 40 miles and higher yet the horizon rises.
Even if you make the math wider how high should we have to go up to see it.
It just isn't there.
I totally agree ed33, not just that but we are told we can't see the backside of the moon because it spins exactly the same speed as us so we always see one side.
We are told it's a sandy/ dusty type of surface on the moon yet it reflects the sun very well. Although I'm sure not done to a professional level people have actually measured the moonlight is colder in direct moonlight than it is in the shade of the moon meaning it omits it's own light.
Something doesn't add up here and I honestly think Nasa are struggling to fob us off anymore.
Ppl are waking up to the faith u have to take without real proof from Nasa.
After all its just another arm of the DOD.
Read discussionSouthampton that is the math we are given mate.
The globe is 25000 miles approx in circumference which equates to that formula.
Balloons have been sent up 40 miles and higher yet the horizon rises.
Even if you make the math wider how high should we have to go up to see it.
It just isn't there.
I totally agree ed33, not just that but we are told we can't see the backside of the moon because it spins exactly the same speed as us so we always see one side.
We are told it's a sandy/ dusty type of surface on the moon yet it reflects the sun very well. Although I'm sure not done to a professional level people have actually measured the moonlight is colder in direct moonlight than it is in the shade of the moon meaning it omits it's own light.
Something doesn't add up here and I honestly think Nasa are struggling to fob us off anymore.
Ppl are waking up to the faith u have to take without real proof from Nasa.
After all its just another arm of the DOD.
Reply · CTR · 19 Aug 2017 20:06
CTR · 19 Aug 2017 20:0619 Aug 2017 16:28:14
Southampton, his name is Mat Boylen he is a high realist artist that said he used to work for Nasa and says once at a party hosted by Nasa he asked about Antarctica and was told,
"If u go there you won't come back"
When he asked why, the Nasa bloke replied "because it's flat. "
Now u have to take that on faith that he's talking the truth but he makes some great points.
Read discussionSouthampton, his name is Mat Boylen he is a high realist artist that said he used to work for Nasa and says once at a party hosted by Nasa he asked about Antarctica and was told,
"If u go there you won't come back"
When he asked why, the Nasa bloke replied "because it's flat. "
Now u have to take that on faith that he's talking the truth but he makes some great points.
Reply · CTR · 19 Aug 2017 12:06
CTR · 19 Aug 2017 12:0619 Aug 2017 11:48:36
HSF
They copy and paste cloud patterns lol. That is enhancing an image mate.
Have you seen the pic of Antarctica from space? It's a joke.
You say they use photoshop that's fine, but there must be some real images out there you would think surely?
The lovely blue marble nasa put out is perfectly round yet we are now told it's actually and oblate spheroid kind of like pear shaped.
Well that is not like any of the 6 or 7 images put out is it?
Have you ever seen the 'live' footage of a space walk where the astronauts helmet fills up with water?
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They copy and paste cloud patterns lol. That is enhancing an image mate.
Have you seen the pic of Antarctica from space? It's a joke.
You say they use photoshop that's fine, but there must be some real images out there you would think surely?
The lovely blue marble nasa put out is perfectly round yet we are now told it's actually and oblate spheroid kind of like pear shaped.
Well that is not like any of the 6 or 7 images put out is it?
Have you ever seen the 'live' footage of a space walk where the astronauts helmet fills up with water?
Reply · CTR · 19 Aug 2017 12:06
CTR · 19 Aug 2017 12:0619 Aug 2017 11:55:53
Sorry mate what I'm getting at with my question was there is nothing I know of that exists that won't be absorbed by a vacuum if next to it.
We are lead to think a huge vacuum is above us and its not pulling our air into it. What's stopping it I'm asking mate.
Read discussionSorry mate what I'm getting at with my question was there is nothing I know of that exists that won't be absorbed by a vacuum if next to it.
We are lead to think a huge vacuum is above us and its not pulling our air into it. What's stopping it I'm asking mate.
Reply · CTR · 19 Aug 2017 12:06
CTR · 19 Aug 2017 12:0619 Aug 2017 12:20:40
This is exactly it Ed033, If you have to fake even one thing it should bring into question everything they put out?
I'm not claiming everyone in nasa is aware of this fake because they can't be.
In order to believe all of of what they say you have to agree to take a load of coincidence as proof such as, in a eclipse the moon and sun even though 100's of thousands of miles apart align perfectly.
It's also not explained how they tell us day and night can't be in the same place but in Russia (I think) there is many footage of it being day time in the same area day in one place and they turn the camera and it's a full moon the other way.
We used to be told when u see a boat disappear that is it going over the curve yet that has been totally disproved now, it just goes out of our perspective. Whip out your camera and u can bring it straight back and so on.
The math behind the curve is 8 inches per mile squared yet there are frozen lakes over 100 miles long that show no signs of the thousands of feet curvature that should be there.
The longest bridge on China in 120 miles long and yes it was built as if the ground was flat underneath it.
Eventually they should be able to proved it without me having to work out the math. If I tell u I have invented a flying car and u ask me to prove it would you accept me saying "get your calculator out" and never showing u the car and saying trust me?
My point is we take everything on faith from people that have never even been to see if they are right and now that is being passed off as a fact that doesn't warrant question.
Science is great but simply throwing out math and saying trust me, doesn't work for me.
Read discussionThis is exactly it Ed033, If you have to fake even one thing it should bring into question everything they put out?
I'm not claiming everyone in nasa is aware of this fake because they can't be.
In order to believe all of of what they say you have to agree to take a load of coincidence as proof such as, in a eclipse the moon and sun even though 100's of thousands of miles apart align perfectly.
It's also not explained how they tell us day and night can't be in the same place but in Russia (I think) there is many footage of it being day time in the same area day in one place and they turn the camera and it's a full moon the other way.
We used to be told when u see a boat disappear that is it going over the curve yet that has been totally disproved now, it just goes out of our perspective. Whip out your camera and u can bring it straight back and so on.
The math behind the curve is 8 inches per mile squared yet there are frozen lakes over 100 miles long that show no signs of the thousands of feet curvature that should be there.
The longest bridge on China in 120 miles long and yes it was built as if the ground was flat underneath it.
Eventually they should be able to proved it without me having to work out the math. If I tell u I have invented a flying car and u ask me to prove it would you accept me saying "get your calculator out" and never showing u the car and saying trust me?
My point is we take everything on faith from people that have never even been to see if they are right and now that is being passed off as a fact that doesn't warrant question.
Science is great but simply throwing out math and saying trust me, doesn't work for me.
Reply · CTR · 19 Aug 2017 00:57
CTR · 19 Aug 2017 00:5719 Aug 2017 00:29:03
HSF,
It has everything to do with the radiation. Nasa themselves tell us we need to conquer the Van Allen radiation belts before we can send humans outside of earth's orbit and that does beg the question "didn't u already have 6 moon missions over 40 years ago? " Certainly seems a bigger problem than u think to me mate.
We figured out very quick how to get there in 69 it seems, yet after all the data on it was lost (how clumsy hey lol) we can't 40 years later.
I'm pretty sure most people that have really looked into it are not confused about the pictures they are putting out.
They add stuff to the pictures such as cloud formations, lights etc the computer wasn't told to do that the artists they employ do. Rob Simmons the nasa artist I believe his name is admits it himself.
We have all these rovers on the moon and mars yet we have no concrete proof they are there. We get what a computer they program, chucks out. The pictures on Mars in black and white are laughable. I'm sure my son has the exact crane they showed taking samples.
Don't you think in this day and age with the crap put on tv they wouldn't have a space channel by now? It doesn't even have to be live, just real.
The space station if u believe it is a great feature of human engineering yet there are no videos of them putting it together in space, they were speaking about it one day then poof there it is a few years later.
Remember if it's real, they are flying around at over 2000mph, one mistake or problem could cause catastrophic consequences yet every feed you see of them they don't seem bothered in the slightest.
Spacex is very exciting because musk has said he will fly 2 people round the moon and back by the end of 2018. Let's wait and see because I remember Branson saying the same thing.
I just want to see a real film of the earth rotating on its axis. They get 18 billion a year, have satellites all over the place it shouldn't be to much to ask in 2017 surely.
Show me Australia upside down (yes I understand gravity and relativity before I open that can of worms lol)
Nasa for me are struggling now, before they could pretty much say anything and hardly anyone took notice but now in this modern age of social networks and higher understanding people are looking and it's getting harder for them to fool us that's for me why they can't launch another mission outside of earth orbit because it's to hard to fake.
While u are talking vacuums have u ever known such a large vacuum that hasn't sucked in air near it such as space and the earth's atmosphere?
If I suck out 75% of the air in a bottle then pierce a hole in it, it will fill straight back to 100% again wouldn't it? Genuine question that as it's just a thought I had lol and if right how does that work?
Read discussionHSF,
It has everything to do with the radiation. Nasa themselves tell us we need to conquer the Van Allen radiation belts before we can send humans outside of earth's orbit and that does beg the question "didn't u already have 6 moon missions over 40 years ago? " Certainly seems a bigger problem than u think to me mate.
We figured out very quick how to get there in 69 it seems, yet after all the data on it was lost (how clumsy hey lol) we can't 40 years later.
I'm pretty sure most people that have really looked into it are not confused about the pictures they are putting out.
They add stuff to the pictures such as cloud formations, lights etc the computer wasn't told to do that the artists they employ do. Rob Simmons the nasa artist I believe his name is admits it himself.
We have all these rovers on the moon and mars yet we have no concrete proof they are there. We get what a computer they program, chucks out. The pictures on Mars in black and white are laughable. I'm sure my son has the exact crane they showed taking samples.
Don't you think in this day and age with the crap put on tv they wouldn't have a space channel by now? It doesn't even have to be live, just real.
The space station if u believe it is a great feature of human engineering yet there are no videos of them putting it together in space, they were speaking about it one day then poof there it is a few years later.
Remember if it's real, they are flying around at over 2000mph, one mistake or problem could cause catastrophic consequences yet every feed you see of them they don't seem bothered in the slightest.
Spacex is very exciting because musk has said he will fly 2 people round the moon and back by the end of 2018. Let's wait and see because I remember Branson saying the same thing.
I just want to see a real film of the earth rotating on its axis. They get 18 billion a year, have satellites all over the place it shouldn't be to much to ask in 2017 surely.
Show me Australia upside down (yes I understand gravity and relativity before I open that can of worms lol)
Nasa for me are struggling now, before they could pretty much say anything and hardly anyone took notice but now in this modern age of social networks and higher understanding people are looking and it's getting harder for them to fool us that's for me why they can't launch another mission outside of earth orbit because it's to hard to fake.
While u are talking vacuums have u ever known such a large vacuum that hasn't sucked in air near it such as space and the earth's atmosphere?
If I suck out 75% of the air in a bottle then pierce a hole in it, it will fill straight back to 100% again wouldn't it? Genuine question that as it's just a thought I had lol and if right how does that work?
Reply · CTR · 18 Aug 2017 21:48
CTR · 18 Aug 2017 21:4818 Aug 2017 14:49:55
Sorry to make this a new thread I thought I replied to my previous.
I don't wanna clog up this page with my ramblings lol.
Read discussionSorry to make this a new thread I thought I replied to my previous.
I don't wanna clog up this page with my ramblings lol.
Post · CTR · 18 Aug 2017 13:44
CTR · 18 Aug 2017 13:4418 Aug 2017 13:06:50
HSF,
Sure mate, the reason I believe nasa pump us out guff is because they admit themselves that all the pics are cgi.
Every pic we have of Hubble in orbit is a cgi image imo, unless u think they have a camera satellite taking all these pics of it orienting is.
We are meant to believe we have this huge metal thing in space that never breaks, can survive the extreme conditions, manages to stay clear of all the other satellites and space debris floating out there.
It all seems a fairytale to me.
The galelao satellite got all the way to Jupiter and managed to line up the perfect shot of it and we are again given proof by a picture. where are these amazing camera satellites we build to go the 100's of thousand of miles along with these other billion dollar satellites to take these pics.
As for the moon landings they couldn't of been more fake imo. We are meant to believe there was a huge space race between Russia and America and once America made it Russia just stopped? Come on lol. Logic would tell you even if they deemed it unimportant at that time after they would of gone back there at some point.
We are told about the Van Allen radiation belts that no human can pass through yet it seems America's idea of 'just going really fast' through them negated thousands of miles of severe radiation. Sorry I don't buy that.
Obviously I'm no astrophysicist, but we have to take the word on faith of people that themselves have never been to the place they tell us the answers to?
The question really is, if after 500 years of telling you, you were nothing but a result of coincidence and they finally got an instrument of flight to prove it to you and they found they were wrong would they tell you?
Reply · CTR · 18 Aug 2017 10:30
CTR · 18 Aug 2017 10:3018 Aug 2017 07:42:25
As my mum always tells me, I have a suspicious mind lol.
One thing I have found out is the amount of theory they now simply pass off as facts.
Take evolution for example, that is simply a theory with no concrete evidence imo but it is now taught in schools as fact. We now have a generation coming through that won't question it at all.
I can't prove the world is round or flat so doing so is something I'm not comfortable doing. But what I find very interesting is reaction to it. I have never known a reaction to a conspiracy like it. Ppl get angry.
Ppl will tell u flat out the Queen is a lizard but when u say the world is flat they call u crazy and can get abusive. That intrigues me so much, it's like brainwashing in a cult. If u go against a cult that is exactly the reaction u would expect.
I believe admiral Byrd found something big in Antarctica.
The simulation theory I will look into more as I can't really comment that well without reading into it more.
Southampton, I agree they can't measure curvature or rotation which should send alarm bells ringing imo. If I'm told something as fact but in order to believe it is have to take someone's word for it who themselves have not seen it or can't measure it I'm no different than the people believing there's a man on a cloud watching over me. It's just faith then. I have been lied to, to much to take the word of government.
Read discussionAs my mum always tells me, I have a suspicious mind lol.
One thing I have found out is the amount of theory they now simply pass off as facts.
Take evolution for example, that is simply a theory with no concrete evidence imo but it is now taught in schools as fact. We now have a generation coming through that won't question it at all.
I can't prove the world is round or flat so doing so is something I'm not comfortable doing. But what I find very interesting is reaction to it. I have never known a reaction to a conspiracy like it. Ppl get angry.
Ppl will tell u flat out the Queen is a lizard but when u say the world is flat they call u crazy and can get abusive. That intrigues me so much, it's like brainwashing in a cult. If u go against a cult that is exactly the reaction u would expect.
I believe admiral Byrd found something big in Antarctica.
The simulation theory I will look into more as I can't really comment that well without reading into it more.
Southampton, I agree they can't measure curvature or rotation which should send alarm bells ringing imo. If I'm told something as fact but in order to believe it is have to take someone's word for it who themselves have not seen it or can't measure it I'm no different than the people believing there's a man on a cloud watching over me. It's just faith then. I have been lied to, to much to take the word of government.
Reply · CTR · 17 Aug 2017 22:09
CTR · 17 Aug 2017 22:0917 Aug 2017 21:36:58
Haha hello buddy.
I really believe we can't go above it atm mate.
When u actually look through the stuff nasa and other space organisations throw out u realise it's all guff.
The pics they show are composites the info they put out all seems amazing but they don't explain how they have all these magic tools to give us them.
When u actually think how far back they have been putting this stuff out it amazing.
From the hubble telescope to the galelao satalite.
I believe in aliens 100% I just don't think they come from another planet per say.
The earth being flat intrigues me.
The momentum it is getting seems all very strange to me.
I honestly believe Antarctica holds a lot of answers to us.
Read discussionHaha hello buddy.
I really believe we can't go above it atm mate.
When u actually look through the stuff nasa and other space organisations throw out u realise it's all guff.
The pics they show are composites the info they put out all seems amazing but they don't explain how they have all these magic tools to give us them.
When u actually think how far back they have been putting this stuff out it amazing.
From the hubble telescope to the galelao satalite.
I believe in aliens 100% I just don't think they come from another planet per say.
The earth being flat intrigues me.
The momentum it is getting seems all very strange to me.
I honestly believe Antarctica holds a lot of answers to us.
Post · CTR · 17 Aug 2017 20:09
CTR · 17 Aug 2017 20:0917 Aug 2017 19:22:14
Hello again guys and gals.
So recently I have really started looking into this flat earth. While I understand most will deride me I really think it exposes a lot of theories passed off as facts.
But one thing I really believe after looking into it is that we can't go out of earth's orbit.
The moon missions are fairytale stuff imo.
What do u guys think?
Reply · CTR · 23 Mar 2016 00:07
CTR · 23 Mar 2016 00:0723 Mar 2016 01:01:59
Thoughts are with ya Kim, I'm sure they will. get home fine mate ðŸ‘.
Read discussionThoughts are with ya Kim, I'm sure they will. get home fine mate ðŸ‘.
Reply · CTR · 26 Feb 2016 18:24
CTR · 26 Feb 2016 18:2426 Feb 2016 19:09:16
I totally agree mate, although I would lean more towards he done the murder, there is just to much evidence to suggest he did even if u took out the bullet and key etc.
Read discussionI totally agree mate, although I would lean more towards he done the murder, there is just to much evidence to suggest he did even if u took out the bullet and key etc.
Post · CTR · 25 Feb 2016 19:45
CTR · 25 Feb 2016 19:4525 Feb 2016 18:48:51
So after bond recommended making a murderer I have watched 6 episodes so far and I have to say it's shocking. Now as of yet I have not formulated an opinion on whether or not he killed that girl but the mere fact that the county police department set him up the first time sickens me and leads u to think he can't and would never get a fair trial.
It's obvious that Steve was not a nice person but the way they locked him up the first time and seemingly have gotten away with it irks me.
They allowed an inocent man go to jail and allowed the guilty man to stay free to commit further crimes.
If anything they should be up for perverting the corse of justice.
Reply · CTR · 22 Jan 2016 21:21
CTR · 22 Jan 2016 21:2122 Jan 2016 21:41:13
My mum told me to watch that series, is it worth a go Bond?
Read discussionMy mum told me to watch that series, is it worth a go Bond?
Reply · CTR · 22 Jan 2016 19:58
CTR · 22 Jan 2016 19:5822 Jan 2016 20:43:21
grow,
Have you heard of the hybrid bear that they think is the reason behind the yeti sightings?
Its a cross of a black bear and a polar bear, it can live at real high altitude and if true can grow to over foot when on two legs.
Read discussiongrow,
Have you heard of the hybrid bear that they think is the reason behind the yeti sightings?
Its a cross of a black bear and a polar bear, it can live at real high altitude and if true can grow to over foot when on two legs.
Reply · CTR · 22 Jan 2016 12:05
CTR · 22 Jan 2016 12:0522 Jan 2016 13:04:01
The books are well worth a read matey.
Read discussionThe books are well worth a read matey.
Reply · CTR · 21 Jan 2016 22:49
CTR · 21 Jan 2016 22:4921 Jan 2016 22:50:38
Yes that is a problem although I'm not 100% sure it's the same thing if anything at all.
The problem with the urban setting is there's to many variables. The fact it's college aged men coming out of bars a lot of the time leads me to think this way, although the cases I've heard are a bit crazy with the victims apparently alive for days before being found dead.
I theorise if the disappearances from the woods is down to a cryptid and the reappearance is down to a human element.
My theory on how it happens is the animal transmits ultra sound to stun the person of sorts and takes the person off and an agency returns them later.
My thinking behind this is the victims seem to be found after the search is nearing it's end or finished which tells me either the searchers are getting to close or far enough away to draw attention from something or someone.
If found alive they can't remember much although one lady that could a bit said she could remember seeing strange men hiding behind trees and tried speaking to them but they wouldn't talk just followed (green berets in special gear looking for her and them? )
The clothes stripping part of my theory is probably crazy but, I think the animal/ humanoid knows thier ultrasound causes over heating to the victims which can result in death and strips them while it takes them away to stop this maybe taking off there boots to dip there feet in a cold lake?
One of the park rangers admits the park and government know of 'wildmen' living off the grid that do "disgusting things " but to recognise it as true would mean they have to accept responsibility, which they can't / don't want to do.
Maybe the government also allow this to happen sometimes in order to find out where a particular group of these things are living?
Like I said a bit of a crazy theory :)
Read discussionYes that is a problem although I'm not 100% sure it's the same thing if anything at all.
The problem with the urban setting is there's to many variables. The fact it's college aged men coming out of bars a lot of the time leads me to think this way, although the cases I've heard are a bit crazy with the victims apparently alive for days before being found dead.
I theorise if the disappearances from the woods is down to a cryptid and the reappearance is down to a human element.
My theory on how it happens is the animal transmits ultra sound to stun the person of sorts and takes the person off and an agency returns them later.
My thinking behind this is the victims seem to be found after the search is nearing it's end or finished which tells me either the searchers are getting to close or far enough away to draw attention from something or someone.
If found alive they can't remember much although one lady that could a bit said she could remember seeing strange men hiding behind trees and tried speaking to them but they wouldn't talk just followed (green berets in special gear looking for her and them? )
The clothes stripping part of my theory is probably crazy but, I think the animal/ humanoid knows thier ultrasound causes over heating to the victims which can result in death and strips them while it takes them away to stop this maybe taking off there boots to dip there feet in a cold lake?
One of the park rangers admits the park and government know of 'wildmen' living off the grid that do "disgusting things " but to recognise it as true would mean they have to accept responsibility, which they can't / don't want to do.
Maybe the government also allow this to happen sometimes in order to find out where a particular group of these things are living?
Like I said a bit of a crazy theory :)