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21 Jul 2016 23:30:40
It has a very right wing Christian agenda.

21 Jul 2016 22:36:04
Yes that's the one
There are quite a few different things being said but
There are a couple of theory's that have some foundation
It don't sound good quite interesting in a sci if

Also have you seen the image only visible from the sky?

21 Jul 2016 21:29:24
So to summarise if we all didn't know already is that not all Muslims are bad, but what we can't say is that certain factions of Islam or one intetpretation is a serious danger to lives and peace or we can if we also mention another religion or race capable of similar madness in the same breath.

There is a reason that people are worried and it's not the fault of Islam but it needs to be addressed especially when it is becoming more prominent in a completely different culture (uk) I'm a sensible fashion and Muslims in this country need to turn hard and rat out the ones that could potentionally cause hate wars.

But far to often domestic abuse and all the other nasties associated with sharia has been overlooked and passed back into the Muslim community to deal with in hand, not in all cases but in far too many. There are plenty of Muslims in this country suffering far more than anyone else as a result of this sharia nonsense!

It's winding it up in the wrong way and I think we can all agree that this conservative sharia thinking needs fully snuffing out of the U.K. For the sake of British Muslims and everyone else.

21 Jul 2016 21:45:58
Muscatred this was 30 years ago. As I said the majority of people were very nice. Its sad to see parts of the world blown to hell for nothing but big business. Its also sad to see how a twisted minority can cause such trouble.

21 Jul 2016 19:51:59
Regarding cern, they have a statue of the god of destruction (cant remember the name right now) outside their headquarters.

Also read stuff about they are trying to open portals to other dimensions which could let in demonic entities which we would perceive as aliens but not in the sense we would imagine aliens to be.

Reminds me of the way tesla says don't imagine earth as a planet, think of it as a realm.

There is also a video on youtube about one of art bell's radio shows were someone calls in talking about how people were after the caller and saying these beings are interdimensional. Which is interesting.

21 Jul 2016 19:12:40
Hsf,
Jihad is a Muslim war or struggle against non believers

Melbourne, if you say so.

21 Jul 2016 17:20:14
You waited all of 2 hours to reply. Patience of a saint.

Once again you're yapping about something you haven't a clue about. Australia's border policies are obviously far too complex for you too grasp, so let me try and simplify it for you.

Due to the fact, thousands of people were trying to gain access to our shores, and being conned into spending thousands of dollars paying illegal people smugglers money on the promise that they would be given asylum, something had to be done. These people smugglers were using below par vessels, which were en masse sinking before reaching Australia, leaving our Government, and tax payers, to send rescue boats to collect drowning men, women and children. One boat literally sank a couple hundred metres offshore and the images of the kids drowning was shown live on tv.

Because these asylum seekers were breaking our immigration laws, hence setting back thousands of people who were taking the correct, legal avenues, in order to be welcomed onto our soil and the fast majority were dying, before reaching land, something had to be done. Not to mention they were being taken for a ride, by people looking to make a buck off their hardships.

In order to make sure a big enough deterrent was put in place, we arranged for any people attempting to arrive on boat, illegally, to be taken to a processing centre that was set up offshore. Guess what the result was? The boats stop being sent. Innocent (yet illegal) asylum seekers stopped drowning in their thousands.

Do I agree with the conditions of the processing centre? Of course not, but I completely accept the reason its in place.

Because of these measures we can accept vastly higher numbers of those who take the legal channels to obtain residency.

Would I prefer to live in a world were people can travel freely, of course, except unlike you I am not ignorant to the issues of the world.

You know nothing about these peoples culture. You're a bigot. You don't care to know, so don't tell me they don't want to be a part of our culture. They may want nothing to do with people like you, and why the hell would they. You're the moron spouting rubbish like 'jihad' is the second most mentioned word. Spouting neo nazi propaganda that has no basis in reality. Tell me how many times has your direct community been the target of a terrorist attack. Tell me how many attacks are taken out in the Muslim world weekly? You think the majority want this? You think they are leaving their countries with proud history because they want to sit on benefits?

Its people with your views that are the problem. I bet you've never engaged in open dialogue with a practising Muslim, and yet you reckon you know what they want. You are an ignorant fool. Ed007 has said it. Ed001 has said it. I'm sure I'm not the only other one on here that sees it too. One day you'll have to come to terms with the fact you're the one whose wrong. I just hope for societies sake it happens sooner rather than later mate because it has to be a lonely little world that you live in.

21 Jul 2016 16:37:00
Melbourne, liked that a lot. Ramadan is one of the 5 pillars, another is charity. Muslims, in general, donate a lot to charity, it's another one of the positive things about Islam that no one here really talks about.

Kim, I'd never pretend the Muslim world was perfect, they're yet to have a sexual awakening and don't really understand what behaviour is appropriate or not. Hopefully, as their own culture liberalises, the sort of treatment you received will lessen.

21 Jul 2016 16:47:39
Southampton, do you even know what Jihad means? It's not the same as what the media portray it at all.

21 Jul 2016 15:26:52
Melbourne,
I cannot be bothered to argue, hence why I haven't up till now posted
(To push their racism)
Funny how you had nothing to say a couple of posts down when someone mentioned they had their 18 month old son at a park and got threatened and moved on by muslims, but that's how blinkers work.

Also funny how people throw insults at English people and the queen but find it offensive when people talk of what is well known about Muslims.
Think the eu referendum is the last time BBC has been on and BBC, channel 4 have been saying what you say, funny that.

Also just look how big Australia is compared to space and population and it's you locking immigrants up like criminals in such a bad way they burn themselves as protest.

When you have a culture that predominantly do not want to be part of our culture,
they want to enforce their own culture on top of ours. Then there is a clash of cultures.

And I hear what people are saying and I cannot argue, there are millions of Muslims that follow the peaceful side of things, but what you and many are doing is ignoring the other many thousands that believe in jihad and will carry out any act that is justified by the Koran.

If you want there are many videos of a man we all know that is Muslim and peacefully asks how can you try to say a religion is peaceful that has 'jihad' as the second most mentioned words.

Let's just say gays and woman is the only negative about Islam, that suits don't it.

21 Jul 2016 14:35:18
I googled it HP. Supposedly the capital city of Astana has been built full of masonic imagery. Not as bad as Washington D.C. or parts of London.

21 Jul 2016 14:46:43
As ever with any book based philosophy its down to interpretation.

I've only been in the middle east once and didn't enjoy it much as I was outside my comfort zone. The ordinary people were overwhelmingly nice. But as a male dominated society it was tough being a young blonde. That said I preferred the normal people to the officials we had to deal with on the trip!

Plenty of places in the world still have issues with racism, misogyny and homophobia.

21 Jul 2016 14:01:08
Awesome post muscat. Just to add, as I head off on a 6 month journey through India in about a month and intend to spend a chunk of time with Muslims in Hyderabad, to better understand what it really means to be Muslim, from Muslims (rather than the bs we get told by the media) . Something I think is vital in understanding these beautiful people is the practise on Ramadan or Ramzan.

On a whole, this is not considered a religious time by most Muslims. They don't spend the month praising Allah etc as most probably believe. This is a month, where they as a collective decide to remind themselves of the suffering that is experienced in the world. They go without food, from sun up to sun down, to reconnect to the notion that many in the world don't have the choice of doing the same. They remind themselves that people are hungry everywhere, and they stand with them. It is far more about removing the ego and reminding themselves of how lucky they are, but also to show the poor that they are no different. At its core it is a reminder that all the exterior bs is meaningless if you forget that we, as humans, are all the same. The older Muslims aren't forced into partaking in Ramadan, due to the effects it can have on an ageing body, however, if they can't partake in the fasting aspect they have to give a predetermined amount of money to the poor in order to show there support.

I fully appreciate that being a Muslim isn't a race, so taking issues with them doesn't make you a racist. I also understand some are fearful of losing the identity they hold so dear, as Brits, Americans or Aussies. I do however also think people like Southampton use it as a reason to further their racist ideals on the world, whether consciously or unconsciously. Whether you, as Brits want to accept the reality of the situation or not, you sent boatloads of convicts to Australia, as immigrants, and destroyed a thousand year old culture known as the aboriginals. Not to escape death in England but to further the Queens reach over this vast planet. And now we cry foul, when people escaping the very terrorists we in the west fear, people who experience attacks daily, not once a year, want to come, as immigrants and be granted the freedoms we enjoy so much because they are different to us.

We in the west have these views of Muslims yet rarely have I, or do I ever see people attempt to understand them. You may think the Turkish PM is evil but the reason the people took to the streets was to oppose a coup (staged or not) which wanted to take that country back to a state of Sharia Law. They don't want that. The people put themselves in harms way to stop that from happening. They believe in the freedoms that we all share and I just wish more people would take the time to understand that and understand that Muslims don't want to force you into believing what they do. They just want the same freedoms we have and all deserve. They are the frontline in the fight against terrorism. Not us and they deserve a chance at freedom. As you don't own your patch on land anymore than the aboriginals did. Feel free come over the pond and ask them whether they believe in terrorism and who are the culprits. You might just find it's your relatives.

Not directed at anyone and not meant to offend anyone, but like Muscat, an issue close to my heart.

21 Jul 2016 13:34:54
Gracie, are you talking about black holes etc or something completely different? what have you read about the the two subjects mentioned in the OP's message? Cern, I find interesting as with what a lot of people believe, there seems to be or at least alluding to, several 'top secret' projects being worked on.

Dont know about the signs in Kazakhstan!

21 Jul 2016 13:31:11
it goes to show that the sheeple's minds are turning to mush.

21 Jul 2016 13:21:36
A number of reasons, I've spent a lot of time in the Middle East, my parents and brother have lived in Oman for almost 30 years. I never settled there but I think it's a wonderful place with some of the friendliest people I've had the pleasure to know, I go back as often as I can.

I've also spent time in Iraq and Afghan, I've visited various other Muslim countries and what I see is not reflective of religious dogma but of that particular society and the political/ economic problems it faces. Then I come home and I see the media report things from a very simplistic viewpoint and I see that viewpoint hoovered up by certain people, I personally find it very frustrating.

Trying to counter what I feel is ignorance is important to me. Not only does it make me feel better but I truly believe that hate and ignorance, from both sides, is what drives conflict. I know there is no reason why Muslims and Westerners can't peacefully live together and I want to live in a world where that is the case.

21 Jul 2016 11:26:22
Cheers Ed1, it's a subject close to my heart.

21 Jul 2016 10:33:52
This is very much my wheelhouse so I thought I'd share my two cents. There is a wide misunderstanding between Islamic culture and National Culture. Islamic Culture doesn't really exist, if you travel through the Muslim world you'll find vastly different societies, the only thing that really links them is the 5 Pillars of Islam which don't go a long way to dictating how you should live your life.

What you do have is some very socially conservative countries where Islam is the state religion such as the one's you mention like Saudi Arabia (although Iran is far less socially conservative than you may think) . In these countries Islam is the excuse for how they treat people as opposed to the reason for it. It is true that the Koran has some passages that seem to promote anti-women or anti-gay teachings but this is largely an issue of interpretation as opposed to what the Koran thematically teaches. As a comparison if a Christian wanted to subjugate women there are plenty of passages in the Bible he could find to legitimise his views.

There are many reasons why Islam has a negative reputation amongst certain people. Part of it is because there's a lot of bad stuff happening in Muslim countries right now that dominates the headlines, it's partly because we currently live in an environment that promotes extreme views, it's partly because the media makes more money talking about 'Muslim issues' than it does 'issues', it's partly because some people find it easier to label an entire religion as one thing rather than consider the hugely complex organism that is made of of 1.6 Billion people world wide.

As for whether Conservative Islamic practices such as Sharia Law could ever become significant in British Society I just don't see it it being a threat. For that to happen would take constitutional change in this country which could only be forced through by an Islam dominated society (not going to happen, Atheism will dominate Britain from this point forward) and even if it did we'd have to be a fundamentalist Islamic society (British Muslims, as a group, are being liberalised not radicalised) . The threat of Islam 'taking over' is a fairy tale designed to scare people, nothing more.

21 Jul 2016 06:50:30
well said Rian and thank you for posting this Firesworm, this is the sort of show they would never allow in schools, or the msm, when all is said and done its all about the money, such a shame that those with the wealth don't want to do anything good and worthwhile with it but that's another story I suppose, as long as they have a "keyzer soze" type boogie man they can carry out there agenda which seems to be to wipe out all people of all races who are deemed inferior to them, interesting how the timetable and ideas were put on hold, yet were still used when it became more relevant to use them, 911 and bin laden being the perfect example. Also shows how history can be changed forever by some clever editing and of course by owning the entire media network, thought provoking stuff.

21 Jul 2016 00:14:52
Im not totally clued up about it, but if what I've read is true then something bad isn't far off for earth.