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14 Jun 2016 22:40:39
Think if you give it a while different stories will pop up in the end if this is a FF
Becuase just how many have been involved
I do find it strange the club man said he was a regular and one bloke said he meet him I think and was asked what good clubs there where apparently
And this witness don't know if he is wierd but 1 he said the man had a shotgun and let a shot off in the dead person next to him
I thought it was a automatic rifle
But when people are shook up they remember things different or in bits.

14 Jun 2016 19:02:46
The injured were being carried towards the Pulse club not away from it. Look at the video and look on google maps. They put someone in a pickup truck (with a siren) that came from the direction of Pulse, and then it did a 180 and went back towards the club. There was zero threat of being shot and they knew it. Otherwise they'd have gone the other way.

14 Jun 2016 17:41:12
I'm not sure if it is the same in America as England
But if you call abulance and the reason being someone has been injured with a knife or gun
Police have to arrive and secure the scene of crime to make sure paramedics and ambulance workers don't get hurt or injured before they can come in
Armed police first a lot of them then after
Ambulance
And what if the victims got injured run for there lives and when up the road adrenalin drops you then notice it is a serious injury and needs treating so head back to were medical assistance is available
But you bring up some good points
And as you say a lot depends on the timeing of these inceidents.

14 Jun 2016 14:28:25
Something very strange about the alleged Pulse nightclub shooting.

There is footage of supposedly injured people being carried down South Orange Avenue. The odd thing though is that they are being carried towards Pulse nightclub, not away from it. You can clearly see on the video that they are carried past a window sign that says YOGA, then past a building called Stand Up MRI of Florida, then past Dunkin Donuts. The next building past that is Pulse Nightclub.

Why would they be carried back towards Pulse nightclub? Is this after the alleged 3 hour shootout or before it?

Why are there no ambulances on the scene even though we can see dozens of vehicles with flashing sirens. But no ambulances. So we get emotive shots of supposedly injured people being carried just like Boston. And we don't get to see even a photo of the inside of the club just like Sandy Hook. And we are seeing multiple crisis actors giving interviews, one guy claiming he crawled over dead bodies, helped treat a man with a gunshot would to his back, and not a drop of blood on him. In fact not much blood anywhere. Were there any appeals for blood donors on the msm?

If 50 people died and 53 were injured there would be a need to mobilise every ambulance in the state of Florida to deal with the carnage.

Also why is it we don't see any footage of Omar Mateen in the street or outside the club beforehand? Why have the media not show where his car was parked nearby?

It seems Omar Mateen was a regular at the Pulse club. How could he just walk in to it without anyone seeing his weapon, and also he must have had an incredibly heavy bag full of ammunition if he was to shoot over 100 people and then engage in a shootout with police for 3 hours.

Maybe Omar Mateen was the first victim on Sunday morning. I don't know for sure, but at this stage I am highly disbelieving of the msm narrative. This seems to me to be the most elaborate and tightly controlled false flag yet.

14 Jun 2016 13:24:12
And on the main topic
1st motive is he is ordered to act this way and can see no wrong as he has grown and believes this
And second motive is there religion orders they be killed
People we will pay the price for this fake PC parade
We need to listen look and learn from the facts
I think that Owen jones after all his mouthing of labelling people left and right for free speech
Has and should have learned his lesson
My point being there where two legitimate reasons (in his view) (not mine) for this attack both where his religion that aimed and directed his anger in the way he did
So I a religious attack
And on the point of false flags I think it's the ones where people sadly die that have the greatest effect.

14 Jun 2016 13:31:45
And on the point of you can't look for evidence why on earth not
Wot do police do when investigating a crime to connect a person to it do? Look for evidence
And before a court sentences or finds someone guilty it is the evidence that they use to judge some one buy
The evidence that came about after a investigation has been carried out to collets this evidence
So I have no answer to why you think this cannot or is not done regularly on a day to day life.

14 Jun 2016 13:33:50
Sorry for all post but to first post I don't think you can or should take away American people's right
To defend themselves
And deffently not to please the PC crowd who are 100 percent in there views self harmers.

14 Jun 2016 13:16:44
Has anyone now seen the Islamic attack in France
A police officer and his partner was murdered whilst
Broadcasting live on Facebook with a poor kid just witnessed his parents killed and the animal dirty pig then said I don't know what I will do to the child
Luckily he spared him
And made a reference to euros in France being a graveyard
I know first hand what militant Islam thing can and will happily do to is what they call kufar or infedels probably spelt wrong sorry.

14 Jun 2016 11:46:42
Ed33, I'm going to regret wading in on this as this isn't a page for me (I peruse the site out of curiosity) but your last statement seriously undermines you. You can't go looking for evidence to attempt to link something to your narrative, you compromise your integrity by doing that. By all means investigate an event but do it without agenda.

13 Jun 2016 23:00:58
When is something not going to be a false flag?

13 Jun 2016 18:12:01
You know what ed, every thing you spoke of on that list is in full flow.

13 Jun 2016 14:33:50
maybe I am not explaining myself properly which is likely .
9/ 11 people died but I consider that a false flag.
it was prob the way I phrased it.
what I mean is there are mentally ill people who will do crazy actions .

i think as kim who mentions that the connection to a particular group is unlikely .

the only groups who gain are the propaganda isis regime and the war on terror brigade .

13 Jun 2016 14:34:50
Supposedly an eye witness was being interviewed on american msm and they cut him off live just as he mentioned someone else was holding the doors shut.

13 Jun 2016 13:09:39
It is now a well established part of the msm narrative to label any event that involves a shooting as an act of terror and it is impossible to confirm accurately any connection with ISIS, as they (or whatever agency purports to represent them) will happily take credit for anything that gets widespread media attention.

13 Jun 2016 12:57:09
'Did I think it was a false flag?
No the guy did shoot those poor people".

So by that definition if people die it can't be a false flag.

Are you serious Franky?

13 Jun 2016 11:48:24
There's a rumour the guy claimed allegiance. IS soon as they heard that have claimed it. But the guy was probably no more a fully paid up member as me or franky. Likely a sympathiser acting on his own. IS are losing ground in Iraq and Syria and need a propaganda boost. By claiming this, the biggest mass shooting in America they get publicity and maybe a few more idiots for cannon fodder.

13 Jun 2016 11:25:37
i am no expert on usa laws by any means but it would take something very big to get them banned .

you will see the election using this event to gain power for different reasons

trump will will be pro guns
clinton anti, well up to now anyway, that could change if a donor offers her money.

did I think was a false flag?
no the guy did shoot those poor people .
was it a act of terrorism?
thats were it gets murky for me,

do I think it was isis? hell no.
have no idea at the moment the connection is as its way to soon but things will drip feed out.

12 Jun 2016 23:57:42
If we stay I think it will be rigged not that people didn't vote out
Only reason cons won like they did is becuase a lot of people knew that was the only real chance of EU referendum other option ukip would never get in
A lot if not more of the original cons voters will never vote in
Most labour voters will not vote in as the hole reason labour are there is to be the oppersiton that stood for the working class
Lib dem voters just 1000 percent deluded just look at clegg and they loved him and most students are lib dem
Then there are the thousands of family members with children unable to move out
My mate was on the phone earlier saying that it's hard to move and he run two small company's.

13 Jun 2016 00:00:54
Last poll I see was express I think and it had 449.000 people voted 72 percent want out
I think we think it's going to be tight because how fake media have been in only getting Londoners on TV debates with planted questions
Don't be defeatist us ants have power if we stick together.

13 Jun 2016 00:08:56
I don't wish to seem insensitive to the tragic death and injury to so many people but I'm extremely sceptical about the msm narrative of this terrible event.

One man shot and killed 50 and shot and injured 50+ people? Declared allegiance to ISIS beforehand? Really?

Attempts to change public opinion on the 2nd amendment have failed up to now, but with an election coming up in November, the timing of this and its potential use by both Trump and particularly Hillary as a means to prep the US for a constitutional amendment post November is deeply worrying.