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Reply · Sanogolovesbentner · 17 May 2016 16:18
17 May 2016 17:03:41
In another note Southampton I do find the whole right wing hippydom amusing. Now if that isn't confusion I don't know what is.
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Reply · Rian · 17 May 2016 14:18
17 May 2016 15:17:41
Sorry Sanogo not sure if your last post was for me or Ed033 or whoever.
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Reply · southampton87 · 17 May 2016 13:07
17 May 2016 14:07:37
I not meaning to just jump in but if a company says it's good to me that means nothing
And any type of smashing or fracking is not any good at all
And is only made worse by the fact some person is damaging the planet we live for there personal gains as normal.
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Reply · Sanogolovesbentner · 17 May 2016 11:48
17 May 2016 12:46:59
Do you understand what fracking is? The point I am making that over the past two years there has been a media hype surrounding it. Everything has the potential to be unsafe. Look at the lives lost in industry that's a fact people die in construction everyday and you don't get the media calling for a ban on building or road works or the many jobs where people die and people do die and as of yet no one has died from fracking and people are up in arms about it. I'm just trying to say tha people need to look at things in perspective.

You tell me why you think fracking is unsafe. What chemicals are you referring to that is used in shale fracking it's just pressuring up the formation. There are other methods of fracking like acid fracking where you pump acid to break down limestone (alkaline) or cold water fracking where you pump cold water into hot formations. Providing you don't frack near water tables which they don't or shouldn't. Trust me if they did it would be the end of it. I'm only telling you I understand it very well and if you choose to believe other false information out there then that's up to you. Just offering a bit of knowledge from experience that's all.
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Reply · TheBlueman8 · 17 May 2016 11:32
17 May 2016 12:14:40
would love to think it was an alien structure even a dyson sphere but i'm leading to think it would be comet of sorts in is cycle or even an asteroid belt.

until the PTB release unclassified data or we advance in telescopic tech then it will be beyond our lifetime in seeing what's there or anywhere.
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Reply · TTTS · 17 May 2016 08:53
17 May 2016 09:49:31
Denis O Brien owns the Dail never mind the Gardia. ROI is a prime example of a country being owned and exploited by cooperations.
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Reply · Rian · 17 May 2016 00:19
17 May 2016 00:55:02
TTTS I agree police are being used as private security as everyone in Ireland knows from the installation of water meters and the gardai (police) were used as muscle to bully peaceful protests.

Sanogo I must be misunderstanding your posts as surely you aren't trying to say that fracking is safe are you?
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Reply · hsf · 16 May 2016 21:22
16 May 2016 20:45:29
I can tell you now, these guys don't pay the police. Well the ones round my area don't, 100%. They get no trouble from the police though. You're welcome to come to my shitty town and see for yourself.
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Reply · TTTS · 16 May 2016 21:22
16 May 2016 20:52:22
Sano, no call for apologies. Was just using that situ as an example.
As for the fracking I won't pretend to know too much about it apart from reports of lakes on fire and water being poisoned.

The behaviour of these large company's leaves a lot to be desired
At the moment there's company's mining for gold in the mountain range I live in and there's also concern about water safety there.

They won't stop until the planet is a toxic waste land.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 16 May 2016 17:31
16 May 2016 18:13:42
Probably because they pay the police a cut of the takings as a license to operate.

Even the Krays, somehow folk heroes, worked under a licence to operate.
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Reply · hsf · 16 May 2016 16:56
16 May 2016 17:45:44
They might be the largest "gang" in the country Sanogo, but I can tell you now they're not very good at being a "gang" just ask anyone who works/ worked for the Clerkenwell Crime Syndicate. They've been operating for about 20 years now without much hassle, or ask many of the biker chapters in and around the UK, or perhaps the Yardies from Jamaica or the sub-faction of Yakuza that is in my neighborhood.

I love where I live.
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Reply · Sanogolovesbentner · 16 May 2016 15:24
16 May 2016 16:22:34
And also you don't get just fracking company's. The news papers called quadrilla a fracking company and they had to use fake signs with a different name on because everywhere they set up they were been attacked by hippys and they were just a drilling contractor same as any other.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 16 May 2016 15:19
16 May 2016 16:17:57
People say the police are needed because of crime but most crime is down to society's inequality.
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Reply · Sanogolovesbentner · 16 May 2016 15:19
16 May 2016 16:18:43
Yes sorry TTS the main point is about the police. But if you are drilling it doesn't mean that there will be fracking. Where in Ireland is it as a few of my old workmates have just gone out there and they have had problems with protestors throwing things at workers cars etc. And they are drilling conventional wells and gas storage which just drills with salt water then leach the cavity with water when completion has been done?
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Reply · TTTS · 16 May 2016 14:00
16 May 2016 13:41:09
2 facts 1, the one I was making. Police are being used for private security
And 2nd, which wasn't really the point I was addressing, the fact that they are drilling suggests that they have intentions of fracking.
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Reply · Sanogolovesbentner · 16 May 2016 13:59
16 May 2016 13:33:50
I just mainly want to point out ed that there is more bs than reality in it and in principle I'm actually against most of what the oil and gas industry are about and just wanted to add my opinion from someone who works in the sector. Ever land rig in the uk now gets frequently attacked by protestors (most of whom are paid to do so) and only some rigs are fracking. But these are the same people who protest against wind farms etc.
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Reply · TTTS · 16 May 2016 13:13
16 May 2016 14:12:21
I'm not surprised, many are thou, the old Dixon of dockgreen, bobby on the beat routine works well .
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Reply · southampton87 · 16 May 2016 12:55
16 May 2016 13:50:52
I got your point about police being nothing but the govts bully boys
Or we wouldn't have politicians in the first place considering they would be accountable for sentences bigger than the Krays and the like.
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Reply · Sanogolovesbentner · 16 May 2016 12:48
16 May 2016 13:26:10
I am obviously no geologist and only go on what the professionals tell me. Fracking can have its implications and go wrong as can any type of practise. It is not allowed near water tables but either is any type of drilling, the point is that it's a new phenomenon in the fact that people are complaining and that was due to the fact of the so called earthquake that happened near Blackpool. Fracking has always been done and it's to make the zone in which they are drilling permeable.

The thing that people don't realise that the new craze is shale gas and shale is not permeable so all wells need to be fracked and this is achieved by closing the annular and pressuring up the formation until you see pressure drop which indicates that you are fracturing the formation. There are other more aggressive forms of fracking using acid which people don't realise. Like I said before there are things that are shocking but fracking is as safe as anything can be providing regulations are kept, and the punishments are steep and oil company's adher to them.

I can tell you on good authority that people in this subject are barking up the wrong tree and point out that these facts that people are using are rubbish and Ill informed. Oil and gas in itself is obsolete and there are better renewable methods and it is a case of the people that be are dumbing down evolution for monetary gain.
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