16 May 2016 07:30:20
Fake training Bomb Threat at Old Trafford yesterday. Then I see a news story of how we don't have enough armed police to deal with a Terror attack. Don't even want to think of what comes next.
16 May 2016 10:27:18
I did think similar
Either was a real bomb because they detonated it surely if a training device the bomb disposable would have known
Or it was a story to bring awareness that something could happen
Then when it does people will have less shock that it was possible.
I did think similar
Either was a real bomb because they detonated it surely if a training device the bomb disposable would have known
Or it was a story to bring awareness that something could happen
Then when it does people will have less shock that it was possible.
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16 May 2016 10:55:12
All police will be armed in near future. They will be used as private security for the cooperatives.
In the Belfast area at the moment the police are being used to protect a private fracking firm who are carrying out test drills. People are being stopped on public roads from getting too close. The idea that police are there to protect the general public is also a myth, they are really muscle for the elite.
All police will be armed in near future. They will be used as private security for the cooperatives.
In the Belfast area at the moment the police are being used to protect a private fracking firm who are carrying out test drills. People are being stopped on public roads from getting too close. The idea that police are there to protect the general public is also a myth, they are really muscle for the elite.
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16 May 2016 12:21:52
You don't have fracking firms. Any drilling company can frack. It's a small part of drilling if it's just a looker hole there will be no fracking anyway.
You don't have fracking firms. Any drilling company can frack. It's a small part of drilling if it's just a looker hole there will be no fracking anyway.
{Ed033's Note - Growbun, just asking a question here. As you work in the oil industry, they surely are only going to inform you what they want you to know regarding fracking (In a previous post, you appear to believe that fracking is perfectly safe). Therefore, are you not just like a dentist who is told / thinks extra fluoride and mercury are perfectly safe to be consumed/placed in the human body?
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16 May 2016 13:26:10
I am obviously no geologist and only go on what the professionals tell me. Fracking can have its implications and go wrong as can any type of practise. It is not allowed near water tables but either is any type of drilling, the point is that it's a new phenomenon in the fact that people are complaining and that was due to the fact of the so called earthquake that happened near Blackpool. Fracking has always been done and it's to make the zone in which they are drilling permeable.
The thing that people don't realise that the new craze is shale gas and shale is not permeable so all wells need to be fracked and this is achieved by closing the annular and pressuring up the formation until you see pressure drop which indicates that you are fracturing the formation. There are other more aggressive forms of fracking using acid which people don't realise. Like I said before there are things that are shocking but fracking is as safe as anything can be providing regulations are kept, and the punishments are steep and oil company's adher to them.
I can tell you on good authority that people in this subject are barking up the wrong tree and point out that these facts that people are using are rubbish and Ill informed. Oil and gas in itself is obsolete and there are better renewable methods and it is a case of the people that be are dumbing down evolution for monetary gain.
I am obviously no geologist and only go on what the professionals tell me. Fracking can have its implications and go wrong as can any type of practise. It is not allowed near water tables but either is any type of drilling, the point is that it's a new phenomenon in the fact that people are complaining and that was due to the fact of the so called earthquake that happened near Blackpool. Fracking has always been done and it's to make the zone in which they are drilling permeable.
The thing that people don't realise that the new craze is shale gas and shale is not permeable so all wells need to be fracked and this is achieved by closing the annular and pressuring up the formation until you see pressure drop which indicates that you are fracturing the formation. There are other more aggressive forms of fracking using acid which people don't realise. Like I said before there are things that are shocking but fracking is as safe as anything can be providing regulations are kept, and the punishments are steep and oil company's adher to them.
I can tell you on good authority that people in this subject are barking up the wrong tree and point out that these facts that people are using are rubbish and Ill informed. Oil and gas in itself is obsolete and there are better renewable methods and it is a case of the people that be are dumbing down evolution for monetary gain.
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16 May 2016 13:50:52
I got your point about police being nothing but the govts bully boys
Or we wouldn't have politicians in the first place considering they would be accountable for sentences bigger than the Krays and the like.
I got your point about police being nothing but the govts bully boys
Or we wouldn't have politicians in the first place considering they would be accountable for sentences bigger than the Krays and the like.
{Ed001's Note - if you look into the history of the police force, you will see that they were set up to protect the rich as a private security force initially. Why is anyone suprised that they still act that way?}
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16 May 2016 14:12:21
I'm not surprised, many are thou, the old Dixon of dockgreen, bobby on the beat routine works well .
I'm not surprised, many are thou, the old Dixon of dockgreen, bobby on the beat routine works well .
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16 May 2016 14:14:05
They are the largest gang in the country.
They are the largest gang in the country.
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16 May 2016 13:33:50
I just mainly want to point out ed that there is more bs than reality in it and in principle I'm actually against most of what the oil and gas industry are about and just wanted to add my opinion from someone who works in the sector. Ever land rig in the uk now gets frequently attacked by protestors (most of whom are paid to do so) and only some rigs are fracking. But these are the same people who protest against wind farms etc.
I just mainly want to point out ed that there is more bs than reality in it and in principle I'm actually against most of what the oil and gas industry are about and just wanted to add my opinion from someone who works in the sector. Ever land rig in the uk now gets frequently attacked by protestors (most of whom are paid to do so) and only some rigs are fracking. But these are the same people who protest against wind farms etc.
{Ed033's Note - i don't doubt that there is some bs somewhere
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16 May 2016 13:41:09
2 facts 1, the one I was making. Police are being used for private security
And 2nd, which wasn't really the point I was addressing, the fact that they are drilling suggests that they have intentions of fracking.
2 facts 1, the one I was making. Police are being used for private security
And 2nd, which wasn't really the point I was addressing, the fact that they are drilling suggests that they have intentions of fracking.
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16 May 2016 16:17:57
People say the police are needed because of crime but most crime is down to society's inequality.
People say the police are needed because of crime but most crime is down to society's inequality.
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16 May 2016 16:18:43
Yes sorry TTS the main point is about the police. But if you are drilling it doesn't mean that there will be fracking. Where in Ireland is it as a few of my old workmates have just gone out there and they have had problems with protestors throwing things at workers cars etc. And they are drilling conventional wells and gas storage which just drills with salt water then leach the cavity with water when completion has been done?
Yes sorry TTS the main point is about the police. But if you are drilling it doesn't mean that there will be fracking. Where in Ireland is it as a few of my old workmates have just gone out there and they have had problems with protestors throwing things at workers cars etc. And they are drilling conventional wells and gas storage which just drills with salt water then leach the cavity with water when completion has been done?
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16 May 2016 16:22:34
And also you don't get just fracking company's. The news papers called quadrilla a fracking company and they had to use fake signs with a different name on because everywhere they set up they were been attacked by hippys and they were just a drilling contractor same as any other.
And also you don't get just fracking company's. The news papers called quadrilla a fracking company and they had to use fake signs with a different name on because everywhere they set up they were been attacked by hippys and they were just a drilling contractor same as any other.
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16 May 2016 17:45:44
They might be the largest "gang" in the country Sanogo, but I can tell you now they're not very good at being a "gang" just ask anyone who works/ worked for the Clerkenwell Crime Syndicate. They've been operating for about 20 years now without much hassle, or ask many of the biker chapters in and around the UK, or perhaps the Yardies from Jamaica or the sub-faction of Yakuza that is in my neighborhood.
I love where I live.
They might be the largest "gang" in the country Sanogo, but I can tell you now they're not very good at being a "gang" just ask anyone who works/ worked for the Clerkenwell Crime Syndicate. They've been operating for about 20 years now without much hassle, or ask many of the biker chapters in and around the UK, or perhaps the Yardies from Jamaica or the sub-faction of Yakuza that is in my neighborhood.
I love where I live.
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16 May 2016 18:13:42
Probably because they pay the police a cut of the takings as a license to operate.
Even the Krays, somehow folk heroes, worked under a licence to operate.
Probably because they pay the police a cut of the takings as a license to operate.
Even the Krays, somehow folk heroes, worked under a licence to operate.
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16 May 2016 20:45:29
I can tell you now, these guys don't pay the police. Well the ones round my area don't, 100%. They get no trouble from the police though. You're welcome to come to my shitty town and see for yourself.
I can tell you now, these guys don't pay the police. Well the ones round my area don't, 100%. They get no trouble from the police though. You're welcome to come to my shitty town and see for yourself.
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16 May 2016 20:52:22
Sano, no call for apologies. Was just using that situ as an example.
As for the fracking I won't pretend to know too much about it apart from reports of lakes on fire and water being poisoned.
The behaviour of these large company's leaves a lot to be desired
At the moment there's company's mining for gold in the mountain range I live in and there's also concern about water safety there.
They won't stop until the planet is a toxic waste land.
Sano, no call for apologies. Was just using that situ as an example.
As for the fracking I won't pretend to know too much about it apart from reports of lakes on fire and water being poisoned.
The behaviour of these large company's leaves a lot to be desired
At the moment there's company's mining for gold in the mountain range I live in and there's also concern about water safety there.
They won't stop until the planet is a toxic waste land.
{Ed033's Note - And while they're turning the planet into a toxic wasteland, they'll be telling everyone, what they're doing do is perfectly safe. Just like GPs who inject toxic substances into young children while saying it's perfectly safe.
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17 May 2016 00:55:02
TTTS I agree police are being used as private security as everyone in Ireland knows from the installation of water meters and the gardai (police) were used as muscle to bully peaceful protests.
Sanogo I must be misunderstanding your posts as surely you aren't trying to say that fracking is safe are you?
TTTS I agree police are being used as private security as everyone in Ireland knows from the installation of water meters and the gardai (police) were used as muscle to bully peaceful protests.
Sanogo I must be misunderstanding your posts as surely you aren't trying to say that fracking is safe are you?
{Ed033's Note - Gardai really are private security as they apparently do not take any kind of oath unlike British police officers who do swear an oath.
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17 May 2016 09:49:31
Denis O Brien owns the Dail never mind the Gardia. ROI is a prime example of a country being owned and exploited by cooperations.
Denis O Brien owns the Dail never mind the Gardia. ROI is a prime example of a country being owned and exploited by cooperations.
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17 May 2016 12:46:59
Do you understand what fracking is? The point I am making that over the past two years there has been a media hype surrounding it. Everything has the potential to be unsafe. Look at the lives lost in industry that's a fact people die in construction everyday and you don't get the media calling for a ban on building or road works or the many jobs where people die and people do die and as of yet no one has died from fracking and people are up in arms about it. I'm just trying to say tha people need to look at things in perspective.
You tell me why you think fracking is unsafe. What chemicals are you referring to that is used in shale fracking it's just pressuring up the formation. There are other methods of fracking like acid fracking where you pump acid to break down limestone (alkaline) or cold water fracking where you pump cold water into hot formations. Providing you don't frack near water tables which they don't or shouldn't. Trust me if they did it would be the end of it. I'm only telling you I understand it very well and if you choose to believe other false information out there then that's up to you. Just offering a bit of knowledge from experience that's all.
Do you understand what fracking is? The point I am making that over the past two years there has been a media hype surrounding it. Everything has the potential to be unsafe. Look at the lives lost in industry that's a fact people die in construction everyday and you don't get the media calling for a ban on building or road works or the many jobs where people die and people do die and as of yet no one has died from fracking and people are up in arms about it. I'm just trying to say tha people need to look at things in perspective.
You tell me why you think fracking is unsafe. What chemicals are you referring to that is used in shale fracking it's just pressuring up the formation. There are other methods of fracking like acid fracking where you pump acid to break down limestone (alkaline) or cold water fracking where you pump cold water into hot formations. Providing you don't frack near water tables which they don't or shouldn't. Trust me if they did it would be the end of it. I'm only telling you I understand it very well and if you choose to believe other false information out there then that's up to you. Just offering a bit of knowledge from experience that's all.
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17 May 2016 14:07:37
I not meaning to just jump in but if a company says it's good to me that means nothing
And any type of smashing or fracking is not any good at all
And is only made worse by the fact some person is damaging the planet we live for there personal gains as normal.
I not meaning to just jump in but if a company says it's good to me that means nothing
And any type of smashing or fracking is not any good at all
And is only made worse by the fact some person is damaging the planet we live for there personal gains as normal.
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17 May 2016 15:17:41
Sorry Sanogo not sure if your last post was for me or Ed033 or whoever.
Sorry Sanogo not sure if your last post was for me or Ed033 or whoever.
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17 May 2016 16:44:36
Sorry rian it was meant for you! Well Southampton we need to look at all industry as there is destruction involved in everything. Maybe we should all go and live in caves and hunt with spears. The point I have been making that fracking is nothing new! I have tried to explain I can do no more. Or I could be some dis info agent pushing my own agenda lol. We're all adults and of course we create our own reality and who am I to sugest that others are living in some paranoid dream world.
Sorry rian it was meant for you! Well Southampton we need to look at all industry as there is destruction involved in everything. Maybe we should all go and live in caves and hunt with spears. The point I have been making that fracking is nothing new! I have tried to explain I can do no more. Or I could be some dis info agent pushing my own agenda lol. We're all adults and of course we create our own reality and who am I to sugest that others are living in some paranoid dream world.
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17 May 2016 17:03:41
In another note Southampton I do find the whole right wing hippydom amusing. Now if that isn't confusion I don't know what is.
In another note Southampton I do find the whole right wing hippydom amusing. Now if that isn't confusion I don't know what is.
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17 May 2016 18:14:07
Sano I think you're mixing up different peoples posts here pal. You asked me "what chemicals are you referring to in shale fracking? " Maybe read the thread again and see what you think.
Sano I think you're mixing up different peoples posts here pal. You asked me "what chemicals are you referring to in shale fracking? " Maybe read the thread again and see what you think.
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17 May 2016 18:48:45
Sorry mate you are correct pal. Was doing it whilst at work on the hop mate. Not fracking though lol. And shouldn't have my phone on site haha.
Sorry mate you are correct pal. Was doing it whilst at work on the hop mate. Not fracking though lol. And shouldn't have my phone on site haha.
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17 May 2016 18:56:53
Ah no problem Sano, all the best pal.
Ah no problem Sano, all the best pal.
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18 May 2016 01:21:10
Lol
Right wing hippdom
Why coz I don't think you can justify messing with the earth people live on for a group to earn a nice penny
Whilst we all pay the consequences
Only thing right wing on me is my right arm lol
I just not blind
When in prison I see what goes on
When I live in the same area for as long as you do you notice the hole change
If saying what you see makes you a type then so be it
I'll leave it to all the eastbenders lot to live and set some line for every one to follow.
Lol
Right wing hippdom
Why coz I don't think you can justify messing with the earth people live on for a group to earn a nice penny
Whilst we all pay the consequences
Only thing right wing on me is my right arm lol
I just not blind
When in prison I see what goes on
When I live in the same area for as long as you do you notice the hole change
If saying what you see makes you a type then so be it
I'll leave it to all the eastbenders lot to live and set some line for every one to follow.
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18 May 2016 08:34:56
Listen up Southampton! I presume you don't use gas and electricity then? I bet there is no wood in your house! Am I correct? Of course not because your a hypocrite if you feel that strongly don't support it. Get you and all your family and huddle under blankets. Walk every where don't use any form of transport. Don't buy or use wooden furniture don't eat meat or use dairy product. Don't be (and this is the most important one so please open your tabs and listen very carefully) a fool. And don't give me all the "I've been in prison and had an epiphany" bs. Because if you did then I presume it serves it's purpose did it not. I take it all this is new to you and now your finally awake. Well I'm back off to sleep lol.
Listen up Southampton! I presume you don't use gas and electricity then? I bet there is no wood in your house! Am I correct? Of course not because your a hypocrite if you feel that strongly don't support it. Get you and all your family and huddle under blankets. Walk every where don't use any form of transport. Don't buy or use wooden furniture don't eat meat or use dairy product. Don't be (and this is the most important one so please open your tabs and listen very carefully) a fool. And don't give me all the "I've been in prison and had an epiphany" bs. Because if you did then I presume it serves it's purpose did it not. I take it all this is new to you and now your finally awake. Well I'm back off to sleep lol.
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18 May 2016 12:15:52
There are loads of ways to power a house and heat a house, but we have greedy companies. Electricity can be made by water, wind, sun, zero point energy like magnetic energy.
If you want to know how wasted we are in England, America and the like, just type in youtube, Pakistani powers his house from such devices. If these same companies put the same money into zero point energy as nuclear power and oil and so on, free energy would be here. It's the greed of the companies.
Anyway, you keep bringing up a conversation the other day. We was talking then about discrimination, now it's on about fracking. So what have they got to do with each other apart from you getting gases and becoming a keyboard warrior.
And no, if you have any idea about prisons just look at what is getting reported
Epiphany, what? You are off your head.
Right wing? you definitely are a crack pot.
Fake football fan that supports a team he don't live near.
There are loads of ways to power a house and heat a house, but we have greedy companies. Electricity can be made by water, wind, sun, zero point energy like magnetic energy.
If you want to know how wasted we are in England, America and the like, just type in youtube, Pakistani powers his house from such devices. If these same companies put the same money into zero point energy as nuclear power and oil and so on, free energy would be here. It's the greed of the companies.
Anyway, you keep bringing up a conversation the other day. We was talking then about discrimination, now it's on about fracking. So what have they got to do with each other apart from you getting gases and becoming a keyboard warrior.
And no, if you have any idea about prisons just look at what is getting reported
Epiphany, what? You are off your head.
Right wing? you definitely are a crack pot.
Fake football fan that supports a team he don't live near.
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18 May 2016 16:50:42
Oh dear you would argue black is white, yes there are lots of ways with rebewable energy yes oil and gas is obsolete yes they slow down evolution for monetary gain, this is not in debate. I am a professional who has invested 10 years in the sector and I'm telling you that fracking is some media hype that has come about of late. Fracking has happened for years. I know what I'm on about with this subject you don't I'm offering insight from first hand experience and somehow you know more about it than me? How's that possible.
I would suggest trying to sort your life out and take you own destiny in your own hands like it's been mentioned to you before and stop filling your head with nonsense that you read on the Internet day in day out. Your the keyboard warrior/ activist and if you look at every post on this page it's dominated by you and your rants and it's all Google copy and paste. Maybe you can impress poorly educated people with your nonsense but don't try and argue with me about something you have not the slightest idea about.
If you want to believe the stuff you go on about then fine but there are people who can help maybe medication. I would try and get treatment early before the schizophrenia kicks in and takes a permanent hold of you. If you want some further reading on renewable energy etc check out the Venus project. I'm no longer getting involved with this anymore because you can't put something where there is nothing.
Oh dear you would argue black is white, yes there are lots of ways with rebewable energy yes oil and gas is obsolete yes they slow down evolution for monetary gain, this is not in debate. I am a professional who has invested 10 years in the sector and I'm telling you that fracking is some media hype that has come about of late. Fracking has happened for years. I know what I'm on about with this subject you don't I'm offering insight from first hand experience and somehow you know more about it than me? How's that possible.
I would suggest trying to sort your life out and take you own destiny in your own hands like it's been mentioned to you before and stop filling your head with nonsense that you read on the Internet day in day out. Your the keyboard warrior/ activist and if you look at every post on this page it's dominated by you and your rants and it's all Google copy and paste. Maybe you can impress poorly educated people with your nonsense but don't try and argue with me about something you have not the slightest idea about.
If you want to believe the stuff you go on about then fine but there are people who can help maybe medication. I would try and get treatment early before the schizophrenia kicks in and takes a permanent hold of you. If you want some further reading on renewable energy etc check out the Venus project. I'm no longer getting involved with this anymore because you can't put something where there is nothing.
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