07 Dec 2015 11:02:15
Thank you very much Kim all the help u have given is amazing.
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CTR · 07 Dec 2015 10:04
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06 Dec 2015 23:00:45
I tried to send a link for ctr which I think had some more information on his grandfather and great uncle. Only ones on the list called Brian and Vic from Cambridge.
goo.gl/is0GgN
Read discussionI tried to send a link for ctr which I think had some more information on his grandfather and great uncle. Only ones on the list called Brian and Vic from Cambridge.
goo.gl/is0GgN
06 Dec 2015 23:04:53
Just saying that if it was the way it happened then ut would only be the French doing it. But also stuff does slip through the cracks.
Read discussionJust saying that if it was the way it happened then ut would only be the French doing it. But also stuff does slip through the cracks.
06 Dec 2015 22:34:55
Intel mistakes do happen. As I said at the time given the number of suspects and the number of personnel needed for monitoring. Plus the chaos of the migrant / refugee crisis and the stupidity of the Schengen system then people fall through cracks.
You seem to be forgetting the French and the Americans were already publicly at least bombing Syria. The only ones prior to Paris not involved were you British.
Now if your going to suggest mi6, remember there are no major secrets in the intelligence community. Something like that couldn't be covered for long and the French would be pissed. If your government needed a false flag to provide a reason to parliament then an attack on a British would have given and the debate wouldn't have lasted 10 hours.
There's certain rules that intelligence agencies abide by and breaking those rules are not tolerated. If a government wants to slaughter its own citizens to make excuses for war that's an internal matter. But attacking another country to provide that reason is a no. And there would be consequences.
To play any game there has to be rules. And in even in the intelligence game there are lines.
Read discussionIntel mistakes do happen. As I said at the time given the number of suspects and the number of personnel needed for monitoring. Plus the chaos of the migrant / refugee crisis and the stupidity of the Schengen system then people fall through cracks.
You seem to be forgetting the French and the Americans were already publicly at least bombing Syria. The only ones prior to Paris not involved were you British.
Now if your going to suggest mi6, remember there are no major secrets in the intelligence community. Something like that couldn't be covered for long and the French would be pissed. If your government needed a false flag to provide a reason to parliament then an attack on a British would have given and the debate wouldn't have lasted 10 hours.
There's certain rules that intelligence agencies abide by and breaking those rules are not tolerated. If a government wants to slaughter its own citizens to make excuses for war that's an internal matter. But attacking another country to provide that reason is a no. And there would be consequences.
To play any game there has to be rules. And in even in the intelligence game there are lines.
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frankyscouser · 06 Dec 2015 21:05
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frankyscouser · 06 Dec 2015 21:0306 Dec 2015 21:49:02
i have no doubt there are real terrorists out there who are willing to give up their life for their cause but the speed of going into Syria after the Paris attack was very much like 9/11 and you have to question the event.
there are three possibilities:
1. like 9/11 the french intel made a mistake
2. it was a classic false flag setup
3. it was allowed to happen, they knew the suspects were going to attack and let it play out
if these russian claims seem to be true then the blowback to all western leaders could be very damaging but the more likely scenario is they will let the turkey leader take the blame and likely assassinate him.
Read discussioni have no doubt there are real terrorists out there who are willing to give up their life for their cause but the speed of going into Syria after the Paris attack was very much like 9/11 and you have to question the event.
there are three possibilities:
1. like 9/11 the french intel made a mistake
2. it was a classic false flag setup
3. it was allowed to happen, they knew the suspects were going to attack and let it play out
if these russian claims seem to be true then the blowback to all western leaders could be very damaging but the more likely scenario is they will let the turkey leader take the blame and likely assassinate him.
06 Dec 2015 16:13:40
Yes turkey has been looking for an excuse to get the rest of nato in to push Russia out.
Putin had good teachers.
Read discussionYes turkey has been looking for an excuse to get the rest of nato in to push Russia out.
Putin had good teachers.
06 Dec 2015 14:56:16
Good stuff Kim, like in the post the other day the only way Isis could move oil is by help from the alliance, like I said a tanker what we use in the uk will only hold 200bbls +/- so on those figures that's around 50000bbls per day which is 250 fuel tankers, that dosent go unnoticed so like I said and you also pointed out its going to turkey and USA and uk all know, help and facilitate this happening fact,
Let's see if the rest of nato drop turkey like a hot potato, that's why they wanted the Russians no where near, Putin is playing a good game thus far by pretending to help has got Russia in to oversee the sad comic display that anyone with half a brain already knows what's going on, with a bit of luck maybe Russia can open the eyes of more of the blind.
Read discussionGood stuff Kim, like in the post the other day the only way Isis could move oil is by help from the alliance, like I said a tanker what we use in the uk will only hold 200bbls +/- so on those figures that's around 50000bbls per day which is 250 fuel tankers, that dosent go unnoticed so like I said and you also pointed out its going to turkey and USA and uk all know, help and facilitate this happening fact,
Let's see if the rest of nato drop turkey like a hot potato, that's why they wanted the Russians no where near, Putin is playing a good game thus far by pretending to help has got Russia in to oversee the sad comic display that anyone with half a brain already knows what's going on, with a bit of luck maybe Russia can open the eyes of more of the blind.
06 Dec 2015 10:31:24
The usual reason mercenaries were in Africa. Money. The country has a lot of resources the western capitalist cartels wanted to exploit for their own ends. Some of the rebels were communist and supported by Moscow hence the west sending in mercenaries to prop up the government.
Read discussionThe usual reason mercenaries were in Africa. Money. The country has a lot of resources the western capitalist cartels wanted to exploit for their own ends. Some of the rebels were communist and supported by Moscow hence the west sending in mercenaries to prop up the government.
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Sanogolovesbentner · 05 Dec 2015 12:03
Sanogolovesbentner · 05 Dec 2015 12:0305 Dec 2015 13:00:36
It's a great game hsf and long over due a new game.
Read discussionIt's a great game hsf and long over due a new game.
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hsf · 04 Dec 2015 22:02
hsf · 04 Dec 2015 22:0204 Dec 2015 22:01:28
Ed033, have you by any chance played the video game Half Life and it's sequels?
A lot of what you post up here does seem to have some kind of similarity with how the story developed in the game. If you don't know the story of Half Life then perhaps it might be worth a read for you.
Read discussionEd033, have you by any chance played the video game Half Life and it's sequels?
A lot of what you post up here does seem to have some kind of similarity with how the story developed in the game. If you don't know the story of Half Life then perhaps it might be worth a read for you.
04 Dec 2015 13:59:56
But why destroy Europe through over-population, what's the point in doing that?
Read discussionBut why destroy Europe through over-population, what's the point in doing that?
04 Dec 2015 12:02:30
Left me with a lump in my throat.
Read discussionLeft me with a lump in my throat.
04 Dec 2015 11:35:07
Growbun exactly. You can only go on what your an expert at.
Read discussionGrowbun exactly. You can only go on what your an expert at.
03 Dec 2015 22:28:35
Climate change is a more accurate description than global warming because it takes into account variations around the globe, but that doesn't mean overall the earth is getting warmer. The increase in ice in Antarctica is relatively modest compared to the decrease in the Arctic.
Most scientists agree that it is a) happening and b) human activities are contributing to it, which is not to say that the climate will not change anyway. If it is human activity that's causing it and the build up continues, then we're screwed. And if there is any conspiracy theory at work here it will most likely be related to reasons who's funding the denial. Follow the money.
Read discussionClimate change is a more accurate description than global warming because it takes into account variations around the globe, but that doesn't mean overall the earth is getting warmer. The increase in ice in Antarctica is relatively modest compared to the decrease in the Arctic.
Most scientists agree that it is a) happening and b) human activities are contributing to it, which is not to say that the climate will not change anyway. If it is human activity that's causing it and the build up continues, then we're screwed. And if there is any conspiracy theory at work here it will most likely be related to reasons who's funding the denial. Follow the money.
03 Dec 2015 22:28:31
Agreed my eyes have been opened but when you have a knowledge of what happens first hand in certain sectors you have a satisfaction of knowing that it's 100% bullshit, there is always a certain level of ambiguity in everything that is out there.
Read discussionAgreed my eyes have been opened but when you have a knowledge of what happens first hand in certain sectors you have a satisfaction of knowing that it's 100% bullshit, there is always a certain level of ambiguity in everything that is out there.
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Big Al · 03 Dec 2015 22:20
Big Al · 03 Dec 2015 22:2003 Dec 2015 22:29:23
Edd033 who are they? The illuminati (though I don't like referring them to that. And great replys mate.
Read discussionEdd033 who are they? The illuminati (though I don't like referring them to that. And great replys mate.
03 Dec 2015 22:48:14
Its a sectarian war between Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran that we're getting dragged into. Don't underestimate the enmity between both branches.
Read discussionIts a sectarian war between Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran that we're getting dragged into. Don't underestimate the enmity between both branches.
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HERBIE · 03 Dec 2015 21:08
HERBIE · 03 Dec 2015 21:0803 Dec 2015 21:49:27
So who/what after Syria?
The next country that has no Rothschild central banking system.
Read discussionSo who/what after Syria?
The next country that has no Rothschild central banking system.
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Big Al · 03 Dec 2015 21:0003 Dec 2015 21:28:23
Edd033 why Iran? To destabilise the middle east altogether?
Read discussionEdd033 why Iran? To destabilise the middle east altogether?