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Reply · MrJonesy · 12 Nov 2015 10:24
12 Nov 2015 10:14:15
Kim funnily enough I go with yours and Growbuns theories in a bit of an amalgamation if you will. I do believe you are right in thinking extremists had the majority hand in this, but there also seems to be something fishy about it as Grow and Ed state!

and on your point Ed any super group of whatever be it, other earthly beings, energys, reptiles however you want to perceive them (i do believe in this group but can't tell you who or what they are) would let their plan out, and if it slipped the gaps, I would certainly think they would nip it in the bud as quickly as if their identities slipped out.
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Reply · MrJonesy · 12 Nov 2015 09:07
12 Nov 2015 10:01:13
Been to a few of them, as well as the large one in mid Zimbabwe (greater Zimbabwe ruins) whenever I go to any of these it literally gives me a weird feeling and almost an alkaline taste in my mouth! but can't get enough of them. Heard there is one in Ghana I would like to check out, so am doing some research on it.
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Reply · MrJonesy · 12 Nov 2015 08:38
12 Nov 2015 09:32:31
Well growbun maybe it is because its a nationalist movement born out of the Jewish religion/movement, I would start there if I was you. You could look it up as well. There are a lot of religions/movements doing wrong in the world including Israel government (zionists) yet they don't try and hide it as much as others because they believe it is certainly in their right, and that includes oppressing people and depriving people of their need to feel they have a place of their own. It is their perceived right to live better than anyone else, and them believing they have this god given right rather than all of us having a right to dictate our own future and choose our own paths (not knocking people for choosing Judaism) , that really annoys me. And that's my take on zionism/Israeli government and the like. p. s. I throw neocons and other fundamentalists into this basket as well.

I am lightly read up on this subject so its a very simplistic view of the situation, and again in my opinion.
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Reply · JK92 · 12 Nov 2015 03:15
12 Nov 2015 04:02:33
Now Russia are "at war" with ISIS, the US have an excuse to bomb anything Russian and blame it on ISIS.
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Reply · growbun28 · 11 Nov 2015 23:17
12 Nov 2015 00:10:09
I just think that Isis are at best a bunch of rag tag fanatics. If they were a real threat they would be gone tomorrow. The fact is that they are a welcome distraction. I was reading somewhere that the detectors in the airport were all fake and ineffective?!

Probably trying to give credence to the fact that Isis could have stowed a bomb away. All very fishy if you ask me. But as long as they keep the majority blind it works wonders. Was reading on Wikipedia how the higher Zionist agenda was a fake (makes you laugh). It's pretty easy once they get you from school age to think that everyone is nuts.
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Reply · growbun28 · 11 Nov 2015 21:15
11 Nov 2015 21:29:20
Well I was only asking "does anyone believe " or "does it have America written all over it" not saying it's my belief and since this is a conspiracy site that's what it tends to lean towards. I don't know the truth and I would be very surprised if you did. And if the Americans did have anything to do with it, it wouldn't be to provoke a response directed at them more of a case that they would have to invest less in Syria and the so called war on Isis whilst Russia did all the dirty work .
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Reply · KimPhilby · 11 Nov 2015 20:04
11 Nov 2015 20:48:37
And how does that work?

As I said the other day Russia us already involved. Putin doesn't need excuses. In fact only the other week he was on tv saying that military action will make Russians safer. Yes that old chestnut. But Putin doesn't like to made to look like an idiot

Some people just can't face up to the truth. Islamic extremism exists. Not everything is a conspiracy.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 11 Nov 2015 20:04
11 Nov 2015 20:49:49
O and if it was America, if they were that stupid. Well we wouldn't be here talking about it. They know what the response would be.
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Reply · Rian · 11 Nov 2015 18:31
11 Nov 2015 19:26:08
Not a chance it was ISIS but it suits all parties concerned for them to take the credit for it.
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Reply · growbun28 · 11 Nov 2015 17:36
11 Nov 2015 17:55:27
Just watched the Aaron Russo interviews from this. So when I then searched the web (thinking he was alive) realised that he died shortly after those interviews . Makes your blood run cold.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 11 Nov 2015 12:33
11 Nov 2015 13:31:49
Look into the Zionists.

Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jewish.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 09 Nov 2015 22:06
09 Nov 2015 22:58:35
Its interesting they said at ground level. Like a hidden door/ passage way?
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Reply · KimPhilby · 09 Nov 2015 20:19
09 Nov 2015 21:16:21
There are lots of anomalies, very interesting place. i'd like to go again but such a terribly insecure place.
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Reply · growbun28 · 09 Nov 2015 16:44
09 Nov 2015 17:38:46
I find this site full of interesting information so anything you can think of Kim would be very helpful.
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Reply · growbun28 · 09 Nov 2015 16:24
09 Nov 2015 17:23:00
If it's from a private firm then simply ignore it, they have no way of enforcing it . I have had plenty and simply don't pay. If it's from the council parking enforcement then address the matter as they take it all the way and the bailiffs they get are from the high court and they can take possetion of goods and gain entry into your house. For council tickets they also operate in stopping cars that owe money and take control of your car (provided that you own the car) . Private firms can also get debt collection agencies to try similar approach but they can't get the power to enter your house provided you don't let them in or leave a door open. These also try and worry you to paying the fine threaten you with all sorts ccj and the like. But in my experience of about 4 private tickets nothing has come of it (first one about 8 years ago)

All of this is my personal experience and I ain't quoting 100% fact here. Maybe some other posters have felt the consequences of acting similar to private firms.
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Reply · wiggy677 · 09 Nov 2015 16:20
09 Nov 2015 17:02:41
I had this happen to me about 2 years ago, I parked in a private resident car park as my mother in law lived their, she said there would be no problem. I received a parking fine a week later from a private firm asking for about the same amount as you. in normal circumstances I would of just paid it if I had been in the wrong but dug my heels in over this one as I was not going to be charged for visiting family. firstly go on to youtube and look up private car park fines, it will give you loads of knowledge. secondly these private car park firms have no legal rights to charge you which I found hard to believe when I first had my fine, they sent me threatening letter after letter but I was told to just completely ignore it all and they would go away, which in the end they did, do not cave into them, they will threaten you with court action but would never proceed with it as the costs are not worth their time, they just live on the hope people will pay the fine which most people without knowledge will do. hope this helps.
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Reply · Rian · 09 Nov 2015 10:45
09 Nov 2015 11:39:04
And yours is just a hypothesis too KP. No more.

By your rationale since it can't be the US or Russia it must be ISIS who you claim are run by the west and the Saudis.

The west? Well that narrows it down.
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