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Reply · HoneyBadger · 14 Oct 2015 03:32
13 Oct 2015 22:33:34
Beethoven and Mozart of course, lots of js Bach pieces too. I like more modern classical also - some of Vaughan Williams pieces are incredible and perfect for relaxing or reading.

I turned 30 less than a year ago and almost found that I liked classical music overnight. Just found myself flicking to classic fm in the car and leaving it on! I find I helps with de-stressing, concentration and just having a good long think about things (pondering).
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Reply · Leahy12 · 14 Oct 2015 03:32
13 Oct 2015 23:46:03
Boys I think ye are confusing consciousness with getting stoned out of yer head,ye are tripping,
Music is good for drifting away,what ye are talking about can be dangerous for someone with a weak mind,most people would get freaked out from them plants,
Lads do ye know what's great for the mind body and soul,exercise take up something you have never done before and start small,as the weeks go by and you feel yourself getting fitter it's a great high.
I played sport all my life but now I'm in the 40s I took up cycling last year great for the head,I do sportives cycle for charities,it's great deadly buzz when your finished,I never thought cycling was for me but I get a great high from it,
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Reply · KimPhilby · 13 Oct 2015 21:00
13 Oct 2015 21:50:58
Sensory deprivation tanks? You do know they were used by the kgb as an interrogation technique? Far more effective than torture. Sorry digressing a bit there.

Music fits the mood. I find Beethoven and Mozart work quite well.
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Reply · growbun28 · 13 Oct 2015 20:23
13 Oct 2015 21:20:12
Melbourne, that's the route I take and it's unbelievable. I remember my first hit of vaped dmt. Oh my god I saw God and outer space visions and ascended beings. And it doesn't stop there. the afterglow is a month long pure unadulterated happiness and a real feeling of privilege. It's so easy to pull from bark as well. Ayahuasca route is also awesome but very full on. you need to book a weekend off and always always fast before.
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Reply · growbun28 · 13 Oct 2015 20:21
13 Oct 2015 21:14:23
Honestly the whole lot of it is bollocks! They should legalise the lot and provide clean safe drugs and get rid of the underground. People want drugs they get them and all the money wasted on trying to police it is obviously not working. And as for medicinal benefits you get psylocin that helps depression, mdma for ptsd (proved) shulgin work on it for the American government and you also have iboga that is pretty much bomb proof for treating addiction.

But then where would the profit be if they didn't sell subitex and methadone, it really is all a crock of crap. Sugar and added salt are more dangerous than most of the illegal substances fact, and we let our kids feast on it.
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Reply · defender of humanity · 13 Oct 2015 19:35
13 Oct 2015 13:35:03
Sorry ed my mistake, I try to read a book a day or at least a fair chunk of one. Knowledge is king in this world, I heard a saying that sticks with me "the more you learn the more you earn" hope you guys try it and I hope it helps.
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Reply · HoneyBadger · 13 Oct 2015 17:47
13 Oct 2015 18:33:22
Will have to check out some Chinese music when I get the chance then.
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Reply · Melbourne CFC · 13 Oct 2015 17:25
13 Oct 2015 18:02:03
By far the most effective way to expand your consciousness is through the use of plants. Psilocybin mushrooms are great tools to help shed ego and explore your consciousness, but aren't for everyone. If you manage your consciousness well on a day to day basis, they will bring you nothing but clarity and perspective. Shouldn't be abused and I recommend use only when you need an objective look at life, or when wanting to explore your consciousness.

Other tools include meditation, floatation tanks, sensory deprevation tanks, forms of yoga and mindfulness. All take different levels of mastering but all have massive benefits. My suggestion if you choose to use plants is to be in a safe dark environment, maybe your room, with a smallish dose (2-3 grams).
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Reply · KimPhilby · 13 Oct 2015 17:25
13 Oct 2015 18:17:09
Yes classical is so much better. Also Chinese music and one time I was out shopping and there were some native Americans possibly Navajo doing dome street performance. Very relaxing music and chanting. I'll pass on the drugs though.
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Reply · HoneyBadger · 13 Oct 2015 16:21
13 Oct 2015 17:17:33
Think it was Melbourne who said that. Hallucagenics, reading, meditation who knows?

I've only recently discovered my fondness for classical music Kim, and have to say it helps me drift away into distant thoughts a lot more effectively than modern pop music etc. Something more primal about it. I also like to listen to the odd piece of chanting or tribal music if I feel the need to be at one with myself and to have a good think.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 13 Oct 2015 15:41
13 Oct 2015 15:58:26
In order to sell it the usual tory interests it won't work by saying its medicinal. But by saying its for tax raising then they'll be able to sell it as a policy. Especially if the tax money goes on various other tory policies. And if they have notice to buy shares in whichever companies get the licences.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 13 Oct 2015 15:41
13 Oct 2015 15:58:50
I prefer vodka, classical music and a good book.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 13 Oct 2015 14:01
13 Oct 2015 14:47:31
my mum takes it for medicinal purpose and I would vote for it. am skeptical if it was not spiked with something though.
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Reply · MS85 · 13 Oct 2015 11:15
13 Oct 2015 11:48:51
No Ed of course its down to the person, sorry I didn't come across clear. I was trying to say about influences and how they can affect peoples judgements be it good or bad.
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Reply · defender of humanity · 13 Oct 2015 10:23
13 Oct 2015 11:05:36
Not read the book but i've read about the alien interview. I personally think its a lie. I also think that any aliens that were found at Roswell were dead because of all the alien autopsy documents. Also how would they communicate with humans in my opinion telekinesis is the easy answer and probably not true. If they were to communicate with us I think it would be with symbols like crop circles or the Nazca lines in the desert. plus I'm sure the government made a lot of disinformation agents to warp and conflict with each others stories. Just my opinion guys.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 13 Oct 2015 09:51
13 Oct 2015 10:50:27
not read the book but have heard about it and heard or read some transcripts online, will let you know more what I think once I have more time mate.
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Reply · Leahy12 · 13 Oct 2015 09:00
13 Oct 2015 09:55:29
Ed01 your right,but I think there's more to the violent acts than weed,like mixing alcohol and cocaine that's a recipe for violence,there isn't a town in Ireland or England at the weekends where people go out mixing drugs and drink and committing acts of violence on the streets,
Then as we are saying it's mostly immature young people that go over the top showing off in front of their mates.
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Reply · Leahy12 · 13 Oct 2015 08:33
13 Oct 2015 09:30:37
Best of luck mate,there's always a way out,things can only get better,there's always people out there that are willing to help along the way.
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Reply · Geordiesteve · 13 Oct 2015 08:33
13 Oct 2015 09:32:39
There was a huge debate when GTA 4 (iirc) came out when Devin Moore shot his way through a police station after stealing the gun from an officer; he then stole a police car and was caught after a car chase (much like the game he'd been playing non-stop). After being caught, he s something along the lines of "Life's a video game, you got to die sometime". This sparked a battle in the courts between Rockstar and Jack Thompson about whether or not the game caused this. I'd recommend watching Gamechangers as it is all about this. Should be on iPlayer as was pretty recent.
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Reply · defender of humanity · 13 Oct 2015 07:34
13 Oct 2015 08:31:18
That's very true ed, didn't look at from that perspective thanks for all you guys insight.
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