29 Mar 2015 09:34:22
Hi zari,
i think the reason Dean Clifford is so dangerous to them is purely down to him being able to get people to change their mind-set from something like:
Government tells us what to do and so I must obey
to:
Government is a collection of people who should represent we the people but don't so those people have no legitimacy or authority
The problem for them is once a person's mind-set has changed, any government mind control/brainwashing tactics to get total obedience from that person won't work any more so there is some resistance from that person.
Dean Clifford has said all along that you should get agreement from your adversary before being in 'court' with them.
Sometimes this is unavoidable so if the 'state' starts taking you to court then the Karl Lentz method of firstly writing to a justice as a man asap and continually communicating as a man all along until it's resolved is probably a good solution.
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Further update:
VT has a great article on the subject where they discuss some of the inconsistencies of the story.
http://tinyurl.com/qavbr76
Read discussionVT has a great article on the subject where they discuss some of the inconsistencies of the story.
http://tinyurl.com/qavbr76
28 Mar 2015 11:51:42
Quick update:
According to the Dusseldorf University Hospital Clinic, where the pilot was purportedly treated for depression: [those claims] "are baseless".
Furthermore, the pilot appears to have bought two pricey Audi cars, one for himself and one for his girlfriend, in the week prior to the event. Irrational last ditch effort at happiness, a lavish purchase with the expectation of incoming monies or a planned purchase?
Read discussionQuick update:
According to the Dusseldorf University Hospital Clinic, where the pilot was purportedly treated for depression: [those claims] "are baseless".
Furthermore, the pilot appears to have bought two pricey Audi cars, one for himself and one for his girlfriend, in the week prior to the event. Irrational last ditch effort at happiness, a lavish purchase with the expectation of incoming monies or a planned purchase?
28 Mar 2015 10:55:58
I guessed as much Ed033. It'd be to good to be true, to have all those pulling the strings gather together in a publicized event. They wouldn't make things that easy for us, would they?
Nonetheless, egging their puppets publicly still conveys a message and also encourages people to take their fates into their own hands.
Read discussionI guessed as much Ed033. It'd be to good to be true, to have all those pulling the strings gather together in a publicized event. They wouldn't make things that easy for us, would they?
Nonetheless, egging their puppets publicly still conveys a message and also encourages people to take their fates into their own hands.
28 Mar 2015 10:49:58
Right you are Geordiesteve, they can claim anything happened when noone is left to say otherwise.
You are welcome Supasab. Both your suggestions are possible and plausible.
The establishment has mandated the installation of remote control that bypasses manual control in all commercial aircraft, for national security reasons of course.
As for mind control, information on the MK Ultra program reveals that they were conditioning people to blindly obey orders and not analyze them. A human being without intact and developed cognitive functions behaves as a machine, merely reacting to external stimuli.
Read discussionRight you are Geordiesteve, they can claim anything happened when noone is left to say otherwise.
You are welcome Supasab. Both your suggestions are possible and plausible.
The establishment has mandated the installation of remote control that bypasses manual control in all commercial aircraft, for national security reasons of course.
As for mind control, information on the MK Ultra program reveals that they were conditioning people to blindly obey orders and not analyze them. A human being without intact and developed cognitive functions behaves as a machine, merely reacting to external stimuli.
27 Mar 2015 17:42:09
Is it a possible mind control or remote control exercise? Just throwing it out there.
Thanks for reply below zari. More than I expected.
Read discussionIs it a possible mind control or remote control exercise? Just throwing it out there.
Thanks for reply below zari. More than I expected.
27 Mar 2015 14:57:48
I was suggesting something along those lines Zari; the dead often make the best scapegoats.
Read discussionI was suggesting something along those lines Zari; the dead often make the best scapegoats.
27 Mar 2015 13:49:27
Is it a possible mind control or remote control exercise? Just throwing it out there.
Thanks for reply below zari. More than I expected.
Read discussionIs it a possible mind control or remote control exercise? Just throwing it out there.
Thanks for reply below zari. More than I expected.
27 Mar 2015 12:19:41
Probably not the answer you are looking for Supasub, but I believe everyone has a special connection with either an animal or a plant/tree. This I believe is a choice, though for some an unconscious one. I suppose in an effort to identify with something not human but nevertheless natural, people gravitate towards what they perceive as beautiful, strong, free, innocent, giving, playful, comic etc.
Some native American tribes believed that each individual had a power animal, a spirit guide of sorts if you wish, which was often chosen at the time of birth through synchronistic events i.e. the animal appearing.
Additionally, I know of other peoples who believed that each individual had a plant as a spirit guide. Druids would belong to this second category.
Now, if one combines these with the notion of focusing on tatwas/tatvas or maintaining an egregor/egregore, it would appear as though we can transfer energy to a form of our choosing. If this is done in an effort to further our spiritual and conscious development then that would imply that only "positive" energies are focused on these forms. These forms then manifest when called upon or when needed, in dream or even waking state, to assist, advise or guide.
Moving away from nature based systems, this same principle is used in religion by having a patron saint, a guardian angel or a charm. Countries and organizations do it with emblems, tribes and families do it with shields.
One focuses their energy on something and depending on what energy everyone else focuses on that same form, one gets an appropriate response.
This is also the reason with certain people's fascination with ancient tools and religious instruments. The more time such an object or form is in use, the more energy it accumulates.
Read discussionProbably not the answer you are looking for Supasub, but I believe everyone has a special connection with either an animal or a plant/tree. This I believe is a choice, though for some an unconscious one. I suppose in an effort to identify with something not human but nevertheless natural, people gravitate towards what they perceive as beautiful, strong, free, innocent, giving, playful, comic etc.
Some native American tribes believed that each individual had a power animal, a spirit guide of sorts if you wish, which was often chosen at the time of birth through synchronistic events i.e. the animal appearing.
Additionally, I know of other peoples who believed that each individual had a plant as a spirit guide. Druids would belong to this second category.
Now, if one combines these with the notion of focusing on tatwas/tatvas or maintaining an egregor/egregore, it would appear as though we can transfer energy to a form of our choosing. If this is done in an effort to further our spiritual and conscious development then that would imply that only "positive" energies are focused on these forms. These forms then manifest when called upon or when needed, in dream or even waking state, to assist, advise or guide.
Moving away from nature based systems, this same principle is used in religion by having a patron saint, a guardian angel or a charm. Countries and organizations do it with emblems, tribes and families do it with shields.
One focuses their energy on something and depending on what energy everyone else focuses on that same form, one gets an appropriate response.
This is also the reason with certain people's fascination with ancient tools and religious instruments. The more time such an object or form is in use, the more energy it accumulates.
27 Mar 2015 11:32:02
Simply so as to voice a contrary opinion, but since when do we accept the msm's version of events?
This event strikes me as odd. It conveniently occurs after publicized findings of the use of a missile in the attack and destruction of the Malaysian flight.
Additionally, I've seen video of the police exiting the pilots house carrying boxes of papers. Who writes what could potentially be a book, commits mass murder of a random group of people and suicide?
I am not convinced that the official story we are presented with is the truth.
Read discussionSimply so as to voice a contrary opinion, but since when do we accept the msm's version of events?
This event strikes me as odd. It conveniently occurs after publicized findings of the use of a missile in the attack and destruction of the Malaysian flight.
Additionally, I've seen video of the police exiting the pilots house carrying boxes of papers. Who writes what could potentially be a book, commits mass murder of a random group of people and suicide?
I am not convinced that the official story we are presented with is the truth.
26 Mar 2015 15:01:22
Maybe he was suffering with depression or some other mental illness. To do that to yourself is one thing, but to do it to a plane full of people including babies and kids suggests a very disturbed individual.
I was hoping they were all unconscious from hypoxia. You can only imagine the panic when they realised the captain couldn't get back into the cockpit.
Ryan.
Read discussionMaybe he was suffering with depression or some other mental illness. To do that to yourself is one thing, but to do it to a plane full of people including babies and kids suggests a very disturbed individual.
I was hoping they were all unconscious from hypoxia. You can only imagine the panic when they realised the captain couldn't get back into the cockpit.
Ryan.
26 Mar 2015 12:32:26
Chris there is also a theory of the Dogman which relates to the missing girls story, lots of info on dogman on youtube. David Paulides has also stated that a few cases he was researching, he was not allowed access to certain files by the park and recreation, not sure who these guys are but why not give out information when it was freely available before.
Allegedly the parks, camping, logging business brings billions into the american economy, so I guess the government acknowledging a giant killer wouldn't help that.
Read discussionChris there is also a theory of the Dogman which relates to the missing girls story, lots of info on dogman on youtube. David Paulides has also stated that a few cases he was researching, he was not allowed access to certain files by the park and recreation, not sure who these guys are but why not give out information when it was freely available before.
Allegedly the parks, camping, logging business brings billions into the american economy, so I guess the government acknowledging a giant killer wouldn't help that.
26 Mar 2015 09:34:13
I hope not. My wife will go nuts never mind anybody else watching what I type. I've always presumed words and phrases were probably picked up on by some sort of filter anyway.
Read discussionI hope not. My wife will go nuts never mind anybody else watching what I type. I've always presumed words and phrases were probably picked up on by some sort of filter anyway.
25 Mar 2015 20:41:46
I have heard about this skin walker ranch and want to look into it more.
Can u suggest any documentary?
Read discussionI have heard about this skin walker ranch and want to look into it more.
Can u suggest any documentary?
25 Mar 2015 20:10:08
That's the one I heard too mate,
I remember a particularly strange story he told of a girl that went missing and was found alive a very well 2 days later.
Her father asked what happened and where her hat was, she replied the dog took me and wouldn't let me leave. As for her good health and missing hat she said the dog took off her hat and ate it but gave her some berries in from his hand.
David paulides says the first thing that jumped into his head was, dog don't have hands.
U also hear of the American Indians mentioning skin walkers that can shape shift into different animals. Well what if they are the same creature but wear the skins of animals, another story from them was this tribe mimics animals which would fit?
As for eating the hat, who knows lol.
Do u really think the government does not know anything about it?
Read discussionThat's the one I heard too mate,
I remember a particularly strange story he told of a girl that went missing and was found alive a very well 2 days later.
Her father asked what happened and where her hat was, she replied the dog took me and wouldn't let me leave. As for her good health and missing hat she said the dog took off her hat and ate it but gave her some berries in from his hand.
David paulides says the first thing that jumped into his head was, dog don't have hands.
U also hear of the American Indians mentioning skin walkers that can shape shift into different animals. Well what if they are the same creature but wear the skins of animals, another story from them was this tribe mimics animals which would fit?
As for eating the hat, who knows lol.
Do u really think the government does not know anything about it?
25 Mar 2015 19:41:26
Don't want to sound behind the times but what is keylogging?
Read discussionDon't want to sound behind the times but what is keylogging?
25 Mar 2015 19:53:03
Is there any good theroys out there ed? I'm stuck whether he is really not sure what is doing it or if he is attempting to push some sort of Bigfoot theroy
Read discussionIs there any good theroys out there ed? I'm stuck whether he is really not sure what is doing it or if he is attempting to push some sort of Bigfoot theroy
22 Mar 2015 17:52:52
A genetically modified mosquitoe would be an ideal launching pad for a cull.
Read discussionA genetically modified mosquitoe would be an ideal launching pad for a cull.
22 Mar 2015 16:57:06
He's at it ok, not saying I agree but I do believe the earth is self healing and human life if it is actually earthling is its disease Atm.
Read discussionHe's at it ok, not saying I agree but I do believe the earth is self healing and human life if it is actually earthling is its disease Atm.
22 Mar 2015 14:40:23
Nature has a way of righting the wrongs. Humans are due a cull of some description
Read discussionNature has a way of righting the wrongs. Humans are due a cull of some description