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I see the religious spiel as tradition nothing more, same thing happened to me a few years ago, my youngest daughter making her holy communion, I tell the wife its a big con, cut a long story short the wife calls the shots on the kids, what I try to do over the brainwashing stuff is give them a ulterior view and let them make there own mind up on what they believe.

Well in that case don't have them christened. why run the risk of having them brainwashed at a later date. It looks like you aren't really a religious type so what's the point.

Thanks franky,

I agree 100% that if it was between the mainstream media and jones/ icke, it's not even a question who I would choose to listen to.

But it seems that even on a site like this one, opinions are divided on the topic.

If any of the Eds have anything to add that would be awesome too.

Trinidad-Gooner

At this moment I agree I would be surprised if it went really high, alls I am hoping for is some mp to crack in court and name major names, I do reckon once this gets to court you will see the odd suicide or two, they are panicking in the houses of parliament with Theresa may doing her best to get someone who was part of the establishment and who was investigating her own brothers actions is brazen at best, I am watching this closely.

Maybe a couple of hundred years ago the population might have believed the second coming of Christ, I doubt it would work now, maybe your serious religious cults would swallow it.

Well, I know of people claiming to be Jesus and what not. But if this elite is as powerful as people make them out to be on this site, like weather manipulation, hologram projecting, plasma beams. Then they could portray him as a vengeful man, turn the sky red, make tsunamis, earthquakes and volcanos all go off at once. That is where the 90% figure comes into play, I'm pretty sure non Christians wouldn't stay non Christians for very long.

AP

13 Jul 2014 21:22:38
30% of the world's population is christian - so where are you getting 90% of the world aren't christian?

Yes 90% aren't Christian, but I would bargain around 90% of the population would stand up and take heed if such an event was to take place. I just feel as if that would be ideal for these to take control if the world % in the matter of weeks.

AP

Thanks for the answer Ed033. The David Icke interview is excellent. The best explanation I have heard so far by a mile.

I didn't know Aldous Huxley taught George Orwell french.

Ryan.

Certainly does.

Ed033 what is your thinking on Albert Pike using the word Nazi in his letter? Do you think it casts doubt on the authenticity of the letter since that word wasn't in use until several decades later?

Ryan.

The angle I was coming from is they are not brainwashed by mainstream medias version in the USA and UK in fact all over the world, they have found other sources and made there feelings known which can only be a good thing, I agree protests are not going to stop bombs being fired on innocent people but at the same time protests must help or there would not be any need for propaganda.

Good link edd,

Watching 'mainstream' media makes me feel sorry of the Palestinians in gaza. There certainly is a lot more sympathy for them than the Israelis. But thankfully I don't fall for the horrible terrorist groups hamas's propaganda. As for these world protests, why isn't there world condemnation and world protests over the butchering in Syria and Iraq? Is it because there is no Jewish involvement?

AP

13 Jul 2014 13:55:25
I don't think they really care about public opinion

The solution is simple but as both sides are inflexible it won't happen.

Kim Philby

Can you be more specific mate?

Good on him and anyone else who can make there voice be heard.
Should be more like him.

12 Jul 2014 19:57:12
You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment.

Kim Philby

From being ex-Navy diver, I know for a fact that the Falklands War was faught over a secret alien submersible base that was harvesting the 'black goo'.

There aren't enough people in the mainstream media like Stephen Fry who are willing to stick their head above the parapet.

Ryan.