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I like both icke and Jones for different reasons, jones over the top attitude and ickes calm collective information, people forget Jones was one of the first guys who criticized his government about waco and made a great documentary as well, no doubt the more popular he has got the more extrovert he becomes but on the whole I think he has good intentions like David icke , I do not believe everything they say but if there is a choice between mainstream media and jones/icke well let's just say I would turn my tv off.

11 Jul 2014 21:07:32
Sorry I know this is off topic, but is it true that Michael Foot was a Soviet agent? I saw KP's response on the same question about allegations of Harold Wilson being a soviet agent.

Regards the dodgy oil thing, its really weird especially given the stuff in the Prometheus film, almost felt like they were setting the scene for something.

Mort

I like Icke, I don't agree with everything he says, but he makes a lot of sense. From time to time I think he might just be a brilliant con artist, because the man is brilliant.

But Jones is a tough one, he seems to care and I want to believe him, but I can't determine which side he's on.

Trinidad-Gooner

Hey JDog,

You really think Alex Jones is a complete act? Don't get me wrong, I've thought the same thing too but I'm not 100% sure. To me, he comes off as a caring good-hearted guy, if he really is a fraud then it has to be one of the biggest frauds of recent history right?

Trinidad-Gooner

Icke actually knows his stuff - predicted the Westminster and entertainment Paedophile ring a long time ago, amongst other things.

As for Jones - grade A nutjob who is exploiting people's genuine concerns. His whole thing is an act - unlike Icke who gave up a very comfortable living with the BBC etc to be ridiculed in order to expose the truth

JDog

11 Jul 2014 18:27:01
You can also say they are over represented in the medical, legal and financial professions. But that's a dangerous road as someone else used that stick.

11 Jul 2014 18:18:00
Cant say about any alien involvement but at the time it was quite a surprise. We were compiling reports on the British political situation, Thatchers popularity, likely outcome of the upcoming election, likely labour policies and an assessment of Foot. Then came the Falklands. Straight away we realised the outcome of next election assuming a British military victory. Its no surprise that years later they publicly announce oil. Not sure about the alien stuff.

Kim Philby

That link I gave above made me think about who really represents me/ us,
in the Jewish chronicles it states we have 24 mps in the house of commons, no great shakes you think as there are 650 seats but as there are only 280,000 Jewish UK people living here, which means they (Zionist) are eight times over represented in UK Parliament.

like in the link above join the dots.

http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2010/05/22/jews-are-8-times-over-represented-in-uk-parliament/

{Ed033's Note - Yes I posted the documentary called, The boy who lived before. It's below if anyone hasn't seen it before.

One nomadic tribe, called different names in different times, is doing everything it can to stop the unification of humans. I choose to refer to them as Khazars as I have seen acceptable evidence tracing them back to their time in Mongolia. They change names, religions and affinities to serve them. They always portray themselves as victims but never as victors.

They occupy most positions of power or have people in them that are under their control. They fund, train, and arm violent, desperate or foolish people and send them out to perpetuate those same conditions that created them in the first place. They have no allegiances other than to themselves and do not consider themselves as part of humanity.

Currently some of them are pretending to be Jewish but can easily be distinguished by the original Jews, by the lack of wisdom in the books they use as behavioral guides. People need to read the Talmud to witness its differences to the Torah.
The Talmud is a survival guide for xenophobes. Its adherents are a danger to the harmonic existence of biodiversity.
zari

After doing research on the scientific advancements of the 1900s (Nikola Tesla, Viktor Schauberger, Royal Rife, Wilhelm Reich etc. ) I would think a secret space program is already in existence.
The military has never been known to possess a technology and not use it or develop it.
zari

I also applaud them but just imagine the whole country took note now that would be something ah well here's hoping.

Successive Irish governments have been shamefully deferential and acquiescent towards Europe for decades, and we as a nation are completely apathetic when it comes to standing up against our bullying government who ride roughshod over us all the time, fully aware that we will moan a bit to each other and do absolutely nothing. Our political spinelessness makes me sick. Yes, the residents near Croker have set an example for the rest of us. They are united, and stood their ground in the face of corporate bullying. I applaud them.

Ryan.

Isn't their a good few accounts of this happening, pretty sure some1 posted a documentary of a boy who lived before?

AP

This is part of the propaganda playing out, ABC news reporting of the destruction in Israel but its actually Palestine you see getting bombed to high heaven.

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rania-khalek/abc-news-tells-viewers-scenes-destruction-gaza-are-israel

I certainly don't condone Israeli attacks. And even more so on the Palestinian attacks as they're crude rockets are aimed willy nilly at anything Israel or Jewish. No thought for human life, just aslong as the take a few. Israeli have a much more advanced system which can detect rocket fire, this giving them an idea of where to fire back at. I'm pretty sure if Israel wanted to destroy gaza and wipe out the people, well they would be more than capable of doing it. If they can 'falsify' a kidnapping and murder of 3 teens then surely they could set up a terrorist attack that kills 100's of children, leaving then no choice but to invade and eradicate the persons who they blame for the attack!? Isn't that the way these faceless people most posters on here talk about work, didn't they set up 9/11 and set the wheels in motion for the invasion of Afghanistan and in time Iraq? The past posts I read on here seem to think like that. So why can't these people do the same in Israel/gaza/Palestinian people?

AP

I have read figures from a independent source quoting for every one Israeli dying seven Palestinians die now no one should have loved ones murdered on either side, but let's look at what Palestine are up against, a country armed up to the teeth with nuclear capabilities, I would go far to say only the USA Russia and china are more armed, as for Palestine aggression back at Israel keep bombing innocent people and you are going to fuel the next freedom fighter, AP I have never been to Israel but I have never been to Palestine as well but I know this is wrong and you have to admit the one eyed view we get from our mainstream media is a effing sick joke, get the lunatic Zionist out of power then there is a chance of peace.

The anti comment was directed at any1 person frank, just a general feeling when reading posts. The have ethnically cleansed the area? What planet are u on? Have u ever visited Israel? I certainly didn't feel threatened or a minority when there. To me, Hamas seem like a group of men around a wasps poking and prodding at it and wondering why the wasps are stinging back. The funny thing is, I was all for the Palestine cause growing up, many a few charity runs, claims and walks done in the name. It was watching the scenes on bbc and itv news that made me angered at what Israel was doing. But as I got older and then visited the place that my head was turned and now realise the Palestinians are just as bad if not worse as they actively use crowded area's, schools and hospital yards to fire their rockets, thus when the Israelis retaliate they're is inevitably civilian loss of life, which Hamas and groups like them love to use, as they have previous with they're own rockets which misfire and land short and kill they're own civilians are blamed on Israelis.

AP

09 Jul 2014 21:29:40
If you want to see ethnic cleansing in the middle east look at what has happened to the regions christians. Churches burned in Egypt. Communities in Syria wiped out. Iraqs christian population pre American invasion was a million. Now its 200k and falling. Who has done this ethnic cleansing, Islamic fascists. Do we hear a peep from Europe over a minority being abused? No. And the same hate filled lunatics are taking over Europe. Many European towns already have ghettos sealed off with signs saying sharia law in effect. Nothing is said. Europe is being destroyed from the inside and this is the real conspiracy.

I wish you signed off on your post no name. Well said.

So, AP, what about all the nice decent Jewish Israelis who like Franky are deeply worried about the policies of their government? Are they anti-Israel/Jewish?

It is very difficult to criticise the Israeli government without the usual predictable anti-semitic finger jabbing accusations.

All Zionists may be Jews, but not all Jews are Zionists. The many good decent Israelis have every right to live in peace, as have their good decent Palestinian neighbours.

But anyone who can condone Israel as it tries to systematically erase the Palestinian people from the earth brick by brick, tree by tree, field by field, is in desperate need of a reality check. Because that has been their agenda from day one. Keep shrinking Palestine until one day you will only see it in a history book.

Ryan.