25 Mar 2014 16:40:42
Wasn't there a case in Blackpool where blokes killed someone and disposed of the body in their kebab shop?
I'm sure it goes on Frankie
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25 Mar 2014 13:28:45
Looking at the evidence and the case online its clear it was shot down.
Kim Philby
Read discussionLooking at the evidence and the case online its clear it was shot down.
Kim Philby
25 Mar 2014 12:05:50
Apologies I have, not sure where that came from. Will make a couple of calls.
Kim Philby
Read discussionApologies I have, not sure where that came from. Will make a couple of calls.
Kim Philby
Iby was talking about TWA800, a 747 that exploded soon after takeoff from JFK in July 1996. I think you're mixing it up with 9/11.
Ryan.
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24 Mar 2014 23:41:15
I would say the Americans, several possible reasons.
First scenario, it was a real hijacking, they shot it down to prevent a repeat of earlier that day. Maybe someone in command panicked, it would be an unusual event. Maybe they knew it was the only way to prevent it.
Second scenario, if we accept the other three planes were bogus, and evidence points to this especially with regards to the pentagon plane, then we have four missing planes and a couple of hundred missing people. Then it all gets a bit Coventry Conundrum, were real planes with real people destroyed elsewhere? Remember the phone calls of people saying goodbye. Your tv show Sherlock Holmes had a plane of the dead to be used on a terrorist mission. So I'm saying it was destroyed elsewhere.
Thirdly well I had a thirdly but the thought it has escaped and is on the loose.
Kim Philby
Read discussionI would say the Americans, several possible reasons.
First scenario, it was a real hijacking, they shot it down to prevent a repeat of earlier that day. Maybe someone in command panicked, it would be an unusual event. Maybe they knew it was the only way to prevent it.
Second scenario, if we accept the other three planes were bogus, and evidence points to this especially with regards to the pentagon plane, then we have four missing planes and a couple of hundred missing people. Then it all gets a bit Coventry Conundrum, were real planes with real people destroyed elsewhere? Remember the phone calls of people saying goodbye. Your tv show Sherlock Holmes had a plane of the dead to be used on a terrorist mission. So I'm saying it was destroyed elsewhere.
Thirdly well I had a thirdly but the thought it has escaped and is on the loose.
Kim Philby
I think it was shot down, it all reeks of a bit of the Coventry conundrum for me
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I stopped watching TV and reading newspapers a few years ago. One of the best decisions I ever made.
Padawan I am no apologist for Murp. His style needs bit of work, but I think you miss his point.
Television is a highly developed propaganda tool that is being used to condition and influence people every day. It changes our brainwave activity from beta to alpha. I don't deny that I am still exposed to propaganda and conditioning every day. If the TV in my local is on I'm exposed. If I watch a match online I'm exposed. But at least without having a TV I am minimising the effect.
You may be vigilant and resist the propaganda on the box, but most people have no idea how much it conditions and influences them. But when you say that TV is one of the best sources of information ever invented, then maybe you don't resist the propaganda as much as I hope.
By the way don't the Amish shun using the internet?
Ryan.
Read discussionPadawan I am no apologist for Murp. His style needs bit of work, but I think you miss his point.
Television is a highly developed propaganda tool that is being used to condition and influence people every day. It changes our brainwave activity from beta to alpha. I don't deny that I am still exposed to propaganda and conditioning every day. If the TV in my local is on I'm exposed. If I watch a match online I'm exposed. But at least without having a TV I am minimising the effect.
You may be vigilant and resist the propaganda on the box, but most people have no idea how much it conditions and influences them. But when you say that TV is one of the best sources of information ever invented, then maybe you don't resist the propaganda as much as I hope.
By the way don't the Amish shun using the internet?
Ryan.
Well said Padawan, Madness in the fast lane was the 1st I watched on the site too & it was really interesting yet disturbing those girls were messed with & I say that rather than just messed up because no one could be so phsycotic. I watch some stupid comedy South Park etc il admit that but other than that the only TV I watch is Sports, documentaries or movies. It's not brainwashed me or any of the other truth seekers on this site. When you watch TV "awake" like we all are you see how some can easily be controlled but as they say ignorance is bliss & if you can live a happy life without worrying about what may or may not happen in the future then so be it.
RM8
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You may well be right KP. Who do you think did it? And with what purpose in mind?
Ryan.
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sidneythecat · 24 Mar 2014 12:27
sidneythecat · 24 Mar 2014 12:27Thanks I will look at this a soon as I have time.
Read discussion24 Mar 2014 13:11:46
Vigilant citizen has a good article on Georgia guidestones. Also check out the cathedral of st john the divine in new York, some of you may find the columns interesting.
Kim Philby
Read discussionVigilant citizen has a good article on Georgia guidestones. Also check out the cathedral of st john the divine in new York, some of you may find the columns interesting.
Kim Philby
24 Mar 2014 12:46:47
Personally I think it was shot down on purpose.
Kim Philby
Read discussionPersonally I think it was shot down on purpose.
Kim Philby
I think he meant to say guidestone.
Ryan.
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Here is a documentary that explores various theories about TWA800.
http://youtu.be/zwWzRFsrqAE
I personally think it was accidentally shot down.
Ryan.
Read discussionhttp://youtu.be/zwWzRFsrqAE
I personally think it was accidentally shot down.
Ryan.
Sidney, apologies I think they are actually called the Georgia guidestones, just type it into google and there's plenty of info (I did have a link but have lost it).
Melbourne, I agree that is the most logical reasoning but I still find it hard to believe these families have been scheming for hundreds of years by which time a few generations of the families are long gone, without getting closer to this magical figure of 500,000.
Perhaps the final controls are currently being put in place so that a final cull can be done relatively quickly in the nesr future, who knows. I guess we will find out one day.
Harold
Read discussionMelbourne, I agree that is the most logical reasoning but I still find it hard to believe these families have been scheming for hundreds of years by which time a few generations of the families are long gone, without getting closer to this magical figure of 500,000.
Perhaps the final controls are currently being put in place so that a final cull can be done relatively quickly in the nesr future, who knows. I guess we will find out one day.
Harold
24 Mar 2014 10:18:56
Its not so much hate as fear and mistrust. People always fear what's different.
Americans are brought up with all that land of the free, leaders of the free world stuff. They're caught that Communism is an evil repressive system, which it is, that is anathema to the American way. The majority of Americans are deeply religious, communism is godless. Americans are all about business and private enterprise. In soviet union everything was state owned. The two are incompatible. Although since the collapse and the adoption of democracy and the market they need a new angle for the Russian boogeyman.
In Russia, we were fed all that Marx stuff on the economic theory of history and how the west were ofall imperialists and exploiters. Which given American post war foreign policy was easy to believe. Sooner or later capitalism was supposed to reach crisis point and collapse at which point the ordinary people of the world would need a new leader. Being anti imperialist we interfered in the third world a lot ostensibly to improve their lot, really we wanted resources and allies.
The Americans were scared of the spread of communism and tried to halt it ala indochina and we were scared of how far they would go to stop it. I was at school during the Cuban Missile crisis and we had teachers telling us that the imperialist exploiters of the west were going to kill us all to hold on to their corrupt system and that they wanted to enslave us all anyway so we would go down fighting or win.
Americans I have spoke to remember the days of McCarthy and the Reds under the bed scares. How paranoia over soviet agents was widespread. With good reason haha. How they tried to blame us for JFK.
Both sides feared each other, they were taught we were all godless automatons wanting to destroy their freedoms and we were taught they were all gun toting cowboys wanting to enslave the world.
As a wise man once said fear leads to hate.
Kim Philby
Read discussionIts not so much hate as fear and mistrust. People always fear what's different.
Americans are brought up with all that land of the free, leaders of the free world stuff. They're caught that Communism is an evil repressive system, which it is, that is anathema to the American way. The majority of Americans are deeply religious, communism is godless. Americans are all about business and private enterprise. In soviet union everything was state owned. The two are incompatible. Although since the collapse and the adoption of democracy and the market they need a new angle for the Russian boogeyman.
In Russia, we were fed all that Marx stuff on the economic theory of history and how the west were ofall imperialists and exploiters. Which given American post war foreign policy was easy to believe. Sooner or later capitalism was supposed to reach crisis point and collapse at which point the ordinary people of the world would need a new leader. Being anti imperialist we interfered in the third world a lot ostensibly to improve their lot, really we wanted resources and allies.
The Americans were scared of the spread of communism and tried to halt it ala indochina and we were scared of how far they would go to stop it. I was at school during the Cuban Missile crisis and we had teachers telling us that the imperialist exploiters of the west were going to kill us all to hold on to their corrupt system and that they wanted to enslave us all anyway so we would go down fighting or win.
Americans I have spoke to remember the days of McCarthy and the Reds under the bed scares. How paranoia over soviet agents was widespread. With good reason haha. How they tried to blame us for JFK.
Both sides feared each other, they were taught we were all godless automatons wanting to destroy their freedoms and we were taught they were all gun toting cowboys wanting to enslave the world.
As a wise man once said fear leads to hate.
Kim Philby
Doing it quickly and blatantly leaves them open to a huge, uncontrollable revolt.
Doing it slowly, leaves most people asleep to it, and makes most people believe they actually control what happens in their lives, while oblivious to what is really happening.
Melbourne CFC
Read discussionDoing it slowly, leaves most people asleep to it, and makes most people believe they actually control what happens in their lives, while oblivious to what is really happening.
Melbourne CFC
Reply · sidneythecat · 23 Mar 2014 23:23
sidneythecat · 23 Mar 2014 23:23What is the Georgia headstone please.
Read discussionMurp can I ask how you reached the conclusion about TV and that we should throw them out?
Do you own a TV as you are advising others not to?
If you do that makes you a hypocrite (amongst other things) and if you don't how do you know what is on it and what it is 'telling' us?
TV is one of the best forms of entertainment and sources information ever invented, it's up to you what you do with the information. Can watch documentaries about all sorts of interesting things, the latest sports and a good 'entertaining' movie if I chose to.
If you think TV is brainwashing people then perhaps it is you who have been brainwashed by some other source who is simply against TV, can I ask if you are Amish?
One of the first videos I watched on this site was Madness in the Fast Lane, a BBC documentary, now was that brainwashing us, feeding us false information, downright lying to us or enlightening and educating us?
You need to study the good and bad to know which is which.
All you are doing is throwing out catchphrases and coming across as some pseudo-intellectual trying to preach to the rest of us.
Knowing Darwin's middle name doesn't make you any more intelligent.
Maybe you will think about what you are saying before dissing TV again, to some it is their ONLY contact with the outside world.
Read discussionDo you own a TV as you are advising others not to?
If you do that makes you a hypocrite (amongst other things) and if you don't how do you know what is on it and what it is 'telling' us?
TV is one of the best forms of entertainment and sources information ever invented, it's up to you what you do with the information. Can watch documentaries about all sorts of interesting things, the latest sports and a good 'entertaining' movie if I chose to.
If you think TV is brainwashing people then perhaps it is you who have been brainwashed by some other source who is simply against TV, can I ask if you are Amish?
One of the first videos I watched on this site was Madness in the Fast Lane, a BBC documentary, now was that brainwashing us, feeding us false information, downright lying to us or enlightening and educating us?
You need to study the good and bad to know which is which.
All you are doing is throwing out catchphrases and coming across as some pseudo-intellectual trying to preach to the rest of us.
Knowing Darwin's middle name doesn't make you any more intelligent.
Maybe you will think about what you are saying before dissing TV again, to some it is their ONLY contact with the outside world.
Reply · sidneythecat · 23 Mar 2014 23:23
sidneythecat · 23 Mar 2014 23:23I don't believe the us and russia is a fake enemy they really do hate each other. This missing plane story is a different kettle of fish. They seem to be clutching at straws so to speak with this one. They are finding scraps of something or other at the bottom of the ocean's and causing some feeble attempt of hysteria.
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