21 Mar 2014 13:44:45
hi guys long term reader of the site first time poster.
Regarding the Malaysian Plane "Dissapearance"
is this a possible theory, word is there was 20 IBM memebers upon the flight theese people are very high up and have control of large sums of money and are very Highly thought of people. could this plane have been hijacked and could possibly be used to start another war. for instance with all the drama surrounding Russia and the Ukraine, I was thinking of important parts of Russia and the Red Square came to mind maybe whoever has hijacked this could be planning on crashing the plane into the red square either before or during the G8 Summit. just a thought
Rabbit96
{Ed001's Note - I fail to see what a bunch of IBM execs could do?}
Cant see it m8, a military plane would find it near impossible to get anywhere near russian airspace never mind a passenger plane.
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21 Mar 2014 15:03:58
Red square is just a square, you'd take out lenins tomb and a lot of tourists damage a few buildings. You'd do better nose diving into the Kremlin. But I'm not sure why you'd want to go to such drastic methods to start a war. Just keep cranking the pressure up in Kiev and provoke a border skirmish and you'd get the same outcome.
Not sure why anyone would want a war with no winners. We would be well on the way to Berlin by the time the Americans even got moving. Hell given how weak Obama is we would probably be on the way to Paris. Once the Americans were committed, and their European forces would only try blocking operations until American air power can be deployed things would quickly escalate. No one wants a nuclear war over Europe but it could head that way. Obama I don't think would give the order but could be pushed into it by the joint chiefs. Mad Vlad wouldn't even blink before giving the order.
Kim Philby
Red square is just a square, you'd take out lenins tomb and a lot of tourists damage a few buildings. You'd do better nose diving into the Kremlin. But I'm not sure why you'd want to go to such drastic methods to start a war. Just keep cranking the pressure up in Kiev and provoke a border skirmish and you'd get the same outcome.
Not sure why anyone would want a war with no winners. We would be well on the way to Berlin by the time the Americans even got moving. Hell given how weak Obama is we would probably be on the way to Paris. Once the Americans were committed, and their European forces would only try blocking operations until American air power can be deployed things would quickly escalate. No one wants a nuclear war over Europe but it could head that way. Obama I don't think would give the order but could be pushed into it by the joint chiefs. Mad Vlad wouldn't even blink before giving the order.
Kim Philby
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21 Mar 2014 22:18:03
why is the mainstream media telling 20 storys a day about a missing plane?
if a plane really could go missing all the same type would be grounded, it's to keep you talking about something that may of never even happened while the real storys are being ignored.
a distraction.
Murp
why is the mainstream media telling 20 storys a day about a missing plane?
if a plane really could go missing all the same type would be grounded, it's to keep you talking about something that may of never even happened while the real storys are being ignored.
a distraction.
Murp
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Russia and the US are on the same side.
Murp
Murp
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21 Mar 2014 23:05:22
Of course they are, that's why they've been pitted against each other for the last 70 years.
Kim Philby
Of course they are, that's why they've been pitted against each other for the last 70 years.
Kim Philby
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You have to have an (fake) emeny to create the system of control.
Murp
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I don't believe the us and russia is a fake enemy they really do hate each other. This missing plane story is a different kettle of fish. They seem to be clutching at straws so to speak with this one. They are finding scraps of something or other at the bottom of the ocean's and causing some feeble attempt of hysteria.
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24 Mar 2014 10:18:56
Its not so much hate as fear and mistrust. People always fear what's different.
Americans are brought up with all that land of the free, leaders of the free world stuff. They're caught that Communism is an evil repressive system, which it is, that is anathema to the American way. The majority of Americans are deeply religious, communism is godless. Americans are all about business and private enterprise. In soviet union everything was state owned. The two are incompatible. Although since the collapse and the adoption of democracy and the market they need a new angle for the Russian boogeyman.
In Russia, we were fed all that Marx stuff on the economic theory of history and how the west were ofall imperialists and exploiters. Which given American post war foreign policy was easy to believe. Sooner or later capitalism was supposed to reach crisis point and collapse at which point the ordinary people of the world would need a new leader. Being anti imperialist we interfered in the third world a lot ostensibly to improve their lot, really we wanted resources and allies.
The Americans were scared of the spread of communism and tried to halt it ala indochina and we were scared of how far they would go to stop it. I was at school during the Cuban Missile crisis and we had teachers telling us that the imperialist exploiters of the west were going to kill us all to hold on to their corrupt system and that they wanted to enslave us all anyway so we would go down fighting or win.
Americans I have spoke to remember the days of McCarthy and the Reds under the bed scares. How paranoia over soviet agents was widespread. With good reason haha. How they tried to blame us for JFK.
Both sides feared each other, they were taught we were all godless automatons wanting to destroy their freedoms and we were taught they were all gun toting cowboys wanting to enslave the world.
As a wise man once said fear leads to hate.
Kim Philby
Its not so much hate as fear and mistrust. People always fear what's different.
Americans are brought up with all that land of the free, leaders of the free world stuff. They're caught that Communism is an evil repressive system, which it is, that is anathema to the American way. The majority of Americans are deeply religious, communism is godless. Americans are all about business and private enterprise. In soviet union everything was state owned. The two are incompatible. Although since the collapse and the adoption of democracy and the market they need a new angle for the Russian boogeyman.
In Russia, we were fed all that Marx stuff on the economic theory of history and how the west were ofall imperialists and exploiters. Which given American post war foreign policy was easy to believe. Sooner or later capitalism was supposed to reach crisis point and collapse at which point the ordinary people of the world would need a new leader. Being anti imperialist we interfered in the third world a lot ostensibly to improve their lot, really we wanted resources and allies.
The Americans were scared of the spread of communism and tried to halt it ala indochina and we were scared of how far they would go to stop it. I was at school during the Cuban Missile crisis and we had teachers telling us that the imperialist exploiters of the west were going to kill us all to hold on to their corrupt system and that they wanted to enslave us all anyway so we would go down fighting or win.
Americans I have spoke to remember the days of McCarthy and the Reds under the bed scares. How paranoia over soviet agents was widespread. With good reason haha. How they tried to blame us for JFK.
Both sides feared each other, they were taught we were all godless automatons wanting to destroy their freedoms and we were taught they were all gun toting cowboys wanting to enslave the world.
As a wise man once said fear leads to hate.
Kim Philby
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