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13 Jan 2014 00:24:20
Disc yes, alien no. Captured Nazi technology. The Colonel was an person and had to retract it. CIA did not want Moscow to know they had Nazi discs. Moscow already knew. Moscow had their own Nazi discs. Moscow knew most CIA secrets. Why do you think they were the first people to get into the Soviet state archives when they were opened by their puppet Yeltsin? Why do you think certain files disappeared? Kim Philby

What would you call someone with 4 kids by 4 different men by the time their 25?

My best guess would be a woman.

Ryan.

13 Jan 2014 00:02:25
Frankyscouser so sorry I forgot your other question, alas old age is catching up with me. Why am I not angry with the fraudsters who run things? O but I am angry, I'd like nothing more than to see the whole thieving, lying, murderous lot put up against the nearest wall and shot. But it'll never happen because the English have mo stomach for revolution. Bankers, lawyers, politicians, all got things so screwed so that they only ever win. Of course I am angry. But nothing ever changes. I did think that maybe we were finally seeing the death throes of capitalism but it looks as if once again it pulls off the great escape. So long as people have their little comforts, cheap drink, the x factor, the corrupt soccer, they are happy. The elite know this. There is a lot to get angry about in this country it is hard to know where to begin. Certainly the act of dehumanising people by reducing them to subsistence on state subsidies should be one of them no? Where is the satisfaction of a good days labour to provide for yourself and family. You call that living slumped infront of the person box, drinking and smoking all day. The great man once wrote each according to their needs, what would he say today. This isn't socialism. We should all be uniting to get rid of the oppressors, this cannot happen whilst large parts of the people are enslaved to benefits. Benefits was just another trick to divide the proletariat and turn us on each other, and it has worked splendidly. This prevents us from rising to overthrow the shackles. Now the oppressors have realised they have gone too far with it and over committed too much money to keeping the people subservient. The crisis they created has shown them that the books do not balance, now they are trying to cut it back, and once again they have divided us. This debate has shown us this. I have no argument with you my brother, and I apologise if I may have caused any offence. You will forgive the ramblings of an old revolutionary?

Kim Philby

Not to forget the Maguire Seven, and the Birmingham Six, Franky. All stitch up jobs. Just like Hillsborough.

Have you ever done any research on the Dublin and Monaghan bombings in 1974?

Ryan.

12 Jan 2014 23:32:03
RR so what would you call someone with 4 kids by 4 different men by the time their 25? I stand by what I said. I feel for your friend but that's a different case, he has had professional medical help, such people should be supported. I have not said once that people with genuine issues should not be supported. I just question how people are allowed to sit on benefits their whole lives and their children follow suit. Or people who claim to have disability but get caught out.

Frankyscouser. Is there any such thing as an independent organisation? They all have their agendas and statistics can be fiddled any such way to prove any point. I have seen nothing on the unreported 3000 suicides because as you say it has not been reported, and I do not watch the daily propaganda reports anyway. If so many have occurred then that is tragic, but is suicide ever truly the answer.

I probably won't return, but as you seem so in need for labels I shall sign off for you.

Kim Philby

O and I had to look up bawbag, such curious expression. And I got called dumb.

12 Jan 2014 22:44:32
Not overly sure it looked too big to hide from people so probably not real or something from a film like you said. I've only just come across the info so not sure to make of it unless theirs more I don't know

Franky

I'm a Newcastle supporter so it was more than just the kids laptop that nearly got clattered tonight!

Jonty

12 Jan 2014 21:27:48
What about the rest of it? The structures, gold, ship and nazi base?

To be fair the guy got called a sheep & a Bawbag before he attacked anyone.

Agreed! Enjoyed that discussion though defo food for thought. talking of food time I made me some tea! I'm starvin marvin over here!

Mate if it means us winning the match and not watching it I will snap ya hands off, motd latersince I've calmed down the topic will always come down to proof which I have none Edo I think we have made first contact with aliens? Deffo, if we we have made contact would we use there technology? definitely! Until there is any full disclosure then we will be going round in circles!

First of all mate can you put your name or anything at the end of your posts?

You dispute the three % figure that has been quoted not by any political party but by numerous independent organizations, yes we know you get people abuse the system but come on, why are you not angry at the real thieves and abusers of the system? This is a watershed moment if this is allowed to happen, and like you mention the "recent shows on BBC and channel 4" yes the mainstream media is pushing this to propagate a myth, what you don't read about is the three thousand suicides that have happened what do you call that casualties of war?

There has to be a point when a country or person still in a high ranking role comes out with hard evidence! I know Mexico have said they would do this but then at the last minute cover it up! I hope your wrong ed and we all discover the truth at some point in our lives!

Do you think the truth will ever come out ed?

Un-named poster you are still labelling women in your street as slappers which in my eyes is a personal attack not on me or franky but on someone else who can't defend them selves. As you put it once you start personal attacks you've lost the argument! Also who are we to decide if some one is physically or mentally able to work? My friend is physically well but due to being in the army suffers with severe anxiety and agropobia! to me and you he is just a normal everyday guy but to his doctors and close friends who know the real truth he has issues that stop him from working! How do you decide a person is fit for work? The fact they can walk, talk do everyday jobs around the house does not make someone fit to work!

In a way I agree with what your saying as I don't know him nor have I had the chance to sit down and chat! Maybe they make financial gains from books and seminars once their careers are over and other officials just jump on the same band wagon! I don't know I started this post a true believer and know ed you've got me thinking these could be doing this for their own gains! Damn I love a good conspiracy! :)

12 Jan 2014 19:28:13
All I am saying is how is it right that some people can spend most of their life in benefits when they are physically and mentally capable of going to work. I know of 3 examples in my street alone and another dozen on the estate who have never done a days work in their lives. How is that right? As I keep saying I have no issue with genuine people but I dispute this 3% figure of Frankyscouser. Look at how many people were on benefits in 1997 and compare it to 2010. Discounting the increased number if penshioners due to the baby boom its still a huge rise. Why?

12 Jan 2014 19:19:51
RR read what I said, I clearly said in my street, I was speaking about specific cases I personally know of. Franky if your talking about recent shows on bbc1 or channel4 I have to say its rare I watch tv, I prefer old movies.

Paul Hellyer was Canada's defence minister! He went public not long ago about ufos and aliens! he's done speeches and seminars! Not sure what to make ed you raise some good points! Still I definatley believe we have been visited and had contact with aliens there's just to many ex high ranking officials saying it's true for me not to believe! I completey understand where your coming from ed as my dad has the same point of view as you although he's a crazy treky

Ed what do you make of the likes of Paul Hellyer who held a high ranking role coming out and saying aliens are here and have been for years? Do you think this could be dis-information or some just trying to grab a bit of the spot light! They were the main thing that swayed me to go back and look over Roswell and read statements and look at the evidence because more and more people are coming out stating this. Going of topic quality win for us tonight! Heart was in my mouth for most the match! :)