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Now I am mate haha had to swerve the second half though I slammed my daughters laptop when Adam scored and the Mrs flipped and made my daughter take it upstairs, now I am in the doghouse but happy as Larry.

Unnamed poster your having a go at franky for calling you a sheep yet you call young women with kids slappers! Double standards mate! Yes some people cheat the system but as franky put it the numbers for them are small there just magnified by propaganda! Atos are out and out killers! Forcing people who can't work back into work! The post was here to let people know they have the rights to appeal against a tax that is making honest people homeless making them committ suicide! I've worked all my life and all this I work so I'm paying for the people to sit round and do nothing is absolute rubbish! The fact I pay tax which goes to the government which a small percentage goes to welfare only for them to claw most of that back through stupid taxes! I'm completely with franky and jonty on this one!

Soz man I am in a bad mood certain posts winding me up and the footy topping it off!

To put this clearly they are targeting everyone on benefits, the scrounges as you put it are a tiny fraction research has been done by various studies and at the most it is about 3% of people claiming welfare are abusing it, the rest get tarred with the same brush, people all over the UK with disabilities are being forced to look for Work, around three thousand people have already committed suicide, oh by the way the agency that are checking if people claiming benefits like the sick are done why a agency hired by the government called atos funny enough headed by a feller called Rothschild, I am sorry you take offense to the sheep jibe, but I get the impression you see all these tv shows showing how they abuse the system you might even know people but what the reality is the main culprits are the suits in corporations and the richest who continuously get away with it, have you ever seen a show about bankers living the high life as they repossess holmes? Ever seen a fly in the wall about major corporations coining excess profits as they up the prices of there brand?no you won't because what you see on tv and the news is propaganda plain and simple!

12 Jan 2014 17:13:12
Actually I don't read newspapers. I outlined my view perfectly well. I fail to see why some people sit on the dole for 20 years when their are jobs out there. The Poles don't have any trouble finding jobs. As myself and Danny said we have no issue in helping people who genuinely need help. But too many take the piss and are out for what they can get. But saying it makes me a sheep? If you have to resort to personal attacks and arguments you know you have lost the argument.

Well in Franky mate get these clowns told. Sick of reading people's comments who are obv a lot older than me, yet are so bloody stupid!

The illuminati is real. The reason u scrimp and scrape even though u have a job is because of them! So stop slating dole punters because a know loads who want a job just can't get one. and they have to put up wae tits like the un-named poster because he's angry that he's got a s*** job with s*** pay.

Get it up yi ya bawbag. It's clowns like u that stop the country moving forward. Stop getting opinions fae the f***in newspapers!

Ever hear the quote from a philosopher in the 1900's? He said:

The 21st century Pharoes will have the slaves begging for work.

Ur just too stupid to see it 😔

Answer me this do you think aliean contact has been made?

Were do you get your information from that cutting money from the benefit system is only going to get the scroungers?

Why am I a sheep, Franky? I know full well that there are people who are unable to work through no fault of their own, and it is right that they are looked after by the state. Everything has to be paid for somehow, and a tax by any over name is still a tax- a necessary evil. Why is someone seen as a sheep or less intelligent than the regular posters on here just because you have a different view point on some subjects? The whole point of debate is to have two sides, and not resort to name calling or abuse.

Well mate we agree to disagree, if like you're suggesting that there has been no alien contact then that's fine we beg to differ.

Valid points edd I just think it is no coincidence that these alleged sightings and events that we would not use it, we all have the mental image of a little grey alien, in the 1980s I think we cloned a sheep and probleary doing the same to humans now. I do not think we could have got that far without steering in the right direction and to be honest mate I think we have seen a tiny fraction of reversed engineering made public, all the good stuff is kept.

Bedroom tax is a scam, not enough 2 bedroom homes all over the uk making people move into flats then they will sell council homes to the private sector, as for danny and the unnamed poster one word "sheep"

12 Jan 2014 13:00:26
Unless your disabled or retired there is no need for anyone to be on long term benefits. Street where I live is filled with slappers who left school at 14 to have a kid and 20-30 years later have never been to work. And some people wonder why some of us have had enough of spongers. Sick of seeing some people get everything for nothing whilst those of us that work have to struggle to make ends meet. Proper socialism doesn't mean dumping millions on benefits and leaving them there. The truth of the matter is the welfare state is crippling the country and it needs reigning in before it pushes us under. I have no problem with people in genuine need of help, but no one should spend a lifetime on benefits. If you can work you should work.

Agreed Ed001. I have never been convinced by the stories from Philip Corso and the like that such technologies like fibre optics, circuit chips, kevlar, night vision etc have come from alien technology. Aliens that may be thousands or millions of years advanced from light years away/other dimensions would still be using this technology! Nope can't have it. While I am an avid believer in aliens and visitations/government knowledge I firmly believe that in some circumstances and technological advances we do a lot of brilliant human minds a big disservice. Just my opinion.

Danny

Some people need to claim benefits even if they work due to low incomes, not saying that you don't have cases of someone is sat on their backside for that long however problem is when other benefit claimants get tarred with the same brush, I am fortunate and have never had to claim any benefits however for those who need help and work hard then I don't have a problem with it, the bedroom tax is a decent idea just implemented wrong, if it was for new claimants only and they lived in an area where housing available with the correct number of rooms then yes they should pay, but I do not favour forcing people out of a home they have lived in for years or having to pay because there are no suitable properties.

Jonty

Well let's take something that we all use everyday the phone, cables everywhere now with satellites communication as one example has boomed, over a hundred years ago it was carrier pigeons and horseback!

not forgetting the stuff we are not allowed to see (black projects)as a race I do not think we have the knowledge to have gained so far and fast in a relatively small amount of time, if you look back in history any advance has took hundreds of years for any improvement for another example the wheel.

Good to know mate, does not effect me with having kids but another ploy to make it harder for the poorest is the cut backs on the c. a. b, they have helped me in the past and they will not have the funding to continue meaning to get any type of advice you would have to pay knowing fair well that the poorest will have the funds to see if they are eligible for any type of benefit, speaking from experience my mum had to give up her job because her arthritis, she had to claim benefits, she was getting a pittance and not once did the social security say listen you might be entitled to A B or C, they left her to struggle on it was only for a relative and me and my sister to persuade her that she might be entitled for a disability benefit that she seen the c. a. b, he reassured her that its her right to claim the extra supplement , soon that will be gone and it makes me angry.

17 years claiming benefits, wow, speachless

One thing they claim come from Roswell was fibre optics ed! In one of the documents someone obtain it described fibre optics to a T!

Thanks franky! Yes had a good one spent with the entire family! But to be honest mate was made up when it was all over a done with and they were all heading back home! In the words of Scrooge 'baa humbug' haha hope you and your loved ones had a good one too mate!