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I try to go by what the outspoken Celebs say about Illuminati Influence in the entertainment industry if u look at what the following say Michael Jackson, Dave Chappelle, Katt Williams, DMX, Kendrick Lamar, The Game, Eminem, Ice Cube there's more but I can't remember them all anyway they've all admitted that it is there and it controls. they say very little obviously because there's massive risk involved.

I agree with the Puppets thing and I think "selling your soul" to the Illuminati as they like to say can make you very rich & powerful.

Rise & Shine

10 Jun 2013 20:58:59
Ed very true. Every movement has had its extreme wing after all. Fundamentalist Islam or the Nazi's is no different to the Bolsheviks or the Catholic Inquisition.

Mrtrotskysghost, I except your apology with thanks. joybringer

That's very fair
joybringer

10 Jun 2013 19:43:34
I get what you mean Joybringer. Certain parts of the religion are very intolerant of anything. I think islamic society is in terms of cultural development in the same stage that christianity went through in the middle ages. With a strong faction that's violent, intolerant and irrational lashing out at all around that don't conform with their view of religious dogma. It seems to be coming to a crossroads like christianity did. Unfortunately technology has moved on from the middle ages so when lashing out they can cause more damage. This also results in the decent moderate muslims getting caught in the crossfire caused by their intolerant fellows. And then gives ammo to the knuckle-draggers of the EDL. That fair enough?

{Ed033's Note - "a strong faction that's violent, intolerant and irrational lashing out at all around that don't conform with their view" this bit sounds like the NWO's idea of democracy to me.

Any chance of reporting the link ed can't find it on my iPad!
Thanks in advance ed!

RR!

{Ed033's Note - Dr. Joseph Farrell's presentation on Nazi black technology.

Nazi International presentation Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd_sUOvR2vY

Nazi International presentation Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15EuY98gCUk

Puppets Sam that's all they are! Glorified puppets on strings! Their given the wealth the fortune and the fame to display symbols in album art work to do cover shoots looking through the 666 eye! Jay Z aka rockafella says it all really!

RR!

I think they are trying to take the piss a little tbh! almost tongue in cheek type of thing!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

This is not really a topic I have really looked in to and a few regulars on here prob know a lot more than me like warrior and a few others, but one I seen yesterday was a small ten minute interview with Alex Jones and David icke chatting about the past few days when Jones tells icke's son to get on the video and tell everyone about his story, icke's son says he was not interested in his fathers beliefs he just wanted to be a musician, he went on to say it is definitely corrupted and does have an agenda, the penny dropped when a record company offered his band or him (can not remember) one hundred thousand pounds advancement to sign a contract but he had to change his name and denounce his dad's views.
so obviously he rejected it, interesting story I have never heard of before, makes you think but like I said this subject is not really my field.

I can hear the star wars theme in my head as I read this.

I don't think there's anything wrong with Andrew Neil, quite like him. He was ok when talking about the bilderberg group and didn't make any snide comments like he did with jones. but jones was asking for it, like many have mentioned, he should have learned his lesson!
its quite sad really because I used to like jones, and some of the stuff he brings up is very interesting, but when he's like that, it discredits everything he is about! i'm almost glad (cant believe i'm saying this myself btw) he was like that again, as less people will take him seriously.

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

One thing I will all agree with you is jones is brash and continuously plugs his web site and does love the limelight were he will get a person to interview but will give his views and not listen to other peoples thoughts or beliefs but for all his faults I definitely think he gets people more aware by his antics.

I don't blame Alex for erupting! To be honest when I've had conversations about my beliefs to people they mock without even researching the subject in question. Alex obviously researches everything he says where the people who mock him and make him erupt know basically what they've been told! I don't like Alex as a person I think the fame has gone to his head a bit too much but like Franky says at least he's getting the idea out there that the world government could be corrupt and decisions being made based on what it would do for the individual or company involved!

RR!

Understood Ed, I shall assume all responsibilities for any failings and report directly.

Captain Needa

Hey Gracey_nffc - Nice to see a fellow Forest fan on here. I agree totally with what you're saying there about him losing it. The problem is, he does himself no favours by not controlling his actions. He loses credability when he acts like a spoilt child. I'm almost getting to the stage, like Ed 033, where I'm thinking he's actually part of the issue rather than part of the solution. Designed to make the self proclaimed conspiracy theorists look crackpot and deluded. To discredit them for their beliefs by forcing the mainstream to portray them as radical egotists who cannot get their own views across without resorting to childish tantrums. I respect the message he's trying to put across, but not the means in which he's trying to acheive it. He needs to grow up a little.

@joybringer, I never said you were racist, I asked if you were. My profound apologies go to you if I caused upset. Furthermore, I do admit to having a little go at you, but your post was a little contradictory. Anyway, enjoy the site and keep posting please. :-)
MrTrotskysGhost

Mrtrotskysghost I have no apology for you calling me a rascist in your last 2 posts. you have cultivated an opinion of me based on my posts that I don't understand. I thought fascism was the intolerence of other peoples views but I am not intollerent of anyone. I am a 51 year old unacademic working class man who came onto this site because I thought things in the world did not add up and wanted to see other peoples views. I now think I am incapable of getting my opinion across in a way that people understand, so you win. I think the links are excellent and peoples views are always interesting I will continue to use the site but I will keep my opinions to myself from now on.
joybringer

Re: Alex Jones

I often listen to his show live on radio and he does the very same thing. It does piss me off as I think he could do without the shouting and screaming. I've come to accept that this is his way of expressing what really annoys him and what people should know more about. He does make me wonder at times whether he is actually doing any good or is his whole shouty persona an act to turn people off the issues.

Captain Needa

@Joybringer, feel free to answer my question any time you like.

MrTrotskysGhost

I think that the way in which he exploded only helps to get it viral and get people talking. If he was clam and had a debate, people wouldn't be talking about him like we are now! I also think that had he not blown up then he would just be talked down to and talked to like he's a complete loop. He wouldn't be able to get his points across without being belittled.