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AH I can't help myself, every level is only a lodge, JAYZ is blue Lodge (4th), hence his kid being called blue ivy, album called blueprint, another useful person.

20 Mar 2013 23:22:02
I kid you not, I've known someone from another country of reformed character who I still keep in touch with now and again. His father was part of the Freemasons in Scandinavia but I don't know at what level but it must have been significant. The chap I know (although I haven't spoken to him for a while) was a contract erm person on behalf of the Freemasons (retired allegedly), who would carry out orders. His job at the time would roughly be seeking out the person which could be anywhere in Europe, finding the family/person and acting on orders. It does go on and I'm not going to elaborate on it. I'm not connected as far as I know to freemasonry although I understand my father was once involved at very low level due to lending each other money between local businessmen, but I do believe an trust this person in pretty much everything I've had chats with him about.

Supasub

20 Mar 2013 23:12:02
I agree, anything going on now in Area 51 will be us black technology although I do think something has gone on there decades ago. Dulce air base intrigues me, I'm sure there are ex-employee accounts of ET's working together with humans in the apparent underground airbase. Denver airport worry's me, apparently massive underground space all completed by seperate contractors so no one knew the full plans, symbolism everywhere to prophecy, freemasonry, slavery, tptb, death, mind control and disease to name just a few.
Which is the air base in America which has strange and unusual paintings/ carvings of strange creatures and so forth on rocks nearby? Also there is a massive restricted airspace/air base in Australia use by the US but I forget the name of it, certainly seems like some strange stuff going on there.

Supasub

I'll ask a question before I go and I will answer it also, and make you all think and look more ok, What is ABC?

Murp.

Once you get to the 32 level you are invited in to the high sect, you are veted to see if your of the stock!
the shepherd looks after the stock (the Stock market), pmsl man I got to laugh cause the more I learn the less I know.
the shepherd every once in a while fleases the stock (being fleased).
The people of Cyprus right now are being fleased by the not so good shepherd and we will be next, how long before who knows.
Murp.

I only ment to post a few things tonite but check out the film 2001 space odyssey by arthur c clarke / Stanley Kubrick, the whole plan is in the film, from primitive beast to god.

Yes indeed, and we are in the 3rd world war already (currency war), these things don't start over night, they build up, let's hope it does not end in a thermonuclear war like it did in our past cause that means another reset of man.
and please I'm not trying to fear anyone but you all know something is wrong otherwise you would not be here.

Thanks for the replies ed your right no one will ever confirm it.

It Is just something that has intrigued me for years.

33rd degree's are people whom are used for a purpose.

Are you sure about the 33rd degree Mason only being of royalty bloodline ed.

I am aware that being a 33rd degree Mason isn't always royalty but if you have done something exceptional in freemasonry for example been a master of a lodge, the royal arch the Templars the eastern star the preceptory and all provincial and grand lodge equivalents?

{Ed033's Note - I hope I'm not on trial here but I'm pretty convinced but who's ever going to confirm it. When I say royalty, I mean being within 1% of the alleged "special" bloodline.

Now a good book to check is albert pike's "morals and dogma" he was a top boy in the freemasons and it's all there, some is coded like our language is but a good read.
remember builders of the rock, the rockefellers (fellow rock builders).
Berg (ice berg, ice rock)
Take care.

Murp.

{Ed033's Note - Allegedly on August 15, 1871, Albert Pike sent a letter to Giusseppe Mazzini talking about 3 world wars that were going to take place.

There is 360 degree's, only EVER a few get there, hence the word the full circle, at the 3rd degree you're a grand master, my grandfather was a grandmaster which is just about networking and supporting each others businesses, remember the last matrix movie, the doors and floors when neo (One) went to find the Architect well this is about the structure of free masons.
Murp.

Now look at the word freemasons? what does it mean? look at it! masons build things, remember the bilderberg group? These are builders of society.
Bob the builder, lol
obama's "yes you can"

bilderberg was never named after a hotel, they owned the hotel and changed the name before they let us know about the so called secret meetings there, do you see how it works, they let us find it out by design.

I agree with lp only at the very top, my mother in laws feller is a freemason and he is pretty high up regionally he is a decent feller and at grass roots levels they do a lot of good, we have chatted about my beliefs not in labeling everyone freemason corrupt but like lp mentioned the top, obviously he want mention what they do, he calls it business behind closed doors which I believe is harmless.

I was familiar with many areas this film covers, probably as many people are (or at least many people who think freely and visit sites such as this). However, even with this knowledge, I continue to pay taxes, speeding fines etc. To be completely and ashamedly honest, I do this because my standard of living (generally speaking) is good. The world is growing ever darker, and it's clear that this will continue. Maybe it HAS to, as it's only when the masses feel that they cannot go on or even survive that they will say "Enough of this" en masse.
Now that's a tragic prediction, but probably a real one
Geestar71

{Ed033's Note - The parasite that has attached itself to us all won't stop and will keep making up new ways to extract money from us. Next it's placing Smart Meters on all buildings and charge for when electricity / gas / water is used so that between 9am and 5pm you are charged 4 x the rate than between 1am and 9am for example. This is already happening

Then after they've finished brainwashing people that we're running out of energy, Energy Inspectors will visit all residents and force you to upgrade your house and appliances to being energy efficient and if you don't upgrade, your house will be condemned and you will be thrown out of it.

Then they'll come back and force you to install solar power or have your house condemned and you will be thrown out of it for not being energy efficient.

Apparently forcing people to raise their houses a few inches for no reason has recently happened next to Bohemian Grove in San Francisco, America. And those that couldn't afford it or refused were thrown out of their houses because the houses were condemned.

Then they'll try again with a global tax like the carbon tax. So it doesn't matter how well off people are now, they won't be later on.

Lp using actors is to play on our emotions as simple as that.

{Ed033's Note - You can get actors to say exactly what you want and they can cry / emote on demand.

I think freemasonry is only bad at the very top, as with most similar organisations, it seems as though for people at the bottom, the Freemasons do a lot of good, but when you get nearer the top, the bad side starts to come out.

I've always thought Area 51 was for developing black technology, which is why some people think it could be linked to UFO's

Yes I read about the one in Kuwait, some of the Sandy Hook interviews look very suspicious, but what I don't understand is what would be the point in using actors?

Thanks for the reply ed but what about the 33rd degree masons in each individual lodge do u think they are involved in anything or is it just nonsense.

. I believe I'm right when I say the 33rd degree is know as 'filling the dead mans shoes' as you can only become a 33rd degree Mason when another one passes away?

{Ed033's Note - There are allegedly degrees above the 33rd known as the illuminati degrees. You cant be a 33rd degree unless you're considered royalty (by bloodline).

An analogy could be made with MPs, whereby only a few MPs ever go to Bilderberg meetings. And Bilderberg meetings are only low level meetings in the greater scheme of things. High level Freemasons may go to low these type of low level meetings.