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Even thou the size of the population is increasing I read somewhere that if the richest 5 per cent elite put there money together, everyone in the world could live a comfortable life, to me we will always live in a corrupt society, its always gone on and will always go on, to me the question is we all know its unfair but we moan about it then end up still paying them these corrupt taxes but when do we say NO,?ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? a bit like a bully at school giving a kid a smack every day which he accepts because he think he can not stand up to him, then the days comes in he's head enough is enough, hopefully that day will come soon my friends.

frankyscouse

And now I don't think I'll ever eat at Sayers either, thanks Franky
LP

It's all about the profits, I worked in sayers on a youth training scheme years ago and the stuff that went on in there was an eye opener, put it this way, I have to this day, not eaten anything from sayers.

frankyscouse

When consumers demand cheaper and cheaper food this is what happens, it's not right however if you buy cheap it's going to be crap.

Takes a few mins to make your own burgers from minced steak leave them all day in the fridge and you have the best burgers, yes it costs more but at least you know what's in it, don't even get me started on reclaimed meat etc, we are all educated people and it's easy to source fresh food or make it yourself, society is too lazy these days.

Rant over : -)

Jonty {Ed001's Note - and how do you know the minced steak is not minced horse meat? It is nothing to do with laziness, it is all to do with companies being untrustworthy.}

09 Feb 2013 15:45:07
I must admit I agree with lp a bit. I buy burgers and sausages from my local butcher using locally sourced produce. Not cheap supermarket cack with god knows what in there.

People are complaining about eating horse meat burgers but if they didn't feed their kids rubbish like tesco burgers and frozen lasagne then they wouldn't have eaten it!
LP

It is potentially dangerous as medicinal substances stay present in equids for a much longer time than other food producing animals. The recommended meat and produce withdrawal time for a cow following treatment is 7 days however for an equid it is 6 months for most products. Bute is short for phenylbutazone which is a non steroid based anti inflammatory. These products can be dangerous as they increase risk of bleeding and have various cardiovascular and gastrointestinal side effects, one such is aplastic anaemia. If these companies were found to be using horses who had been administered bute at any time, they could likely be looking at prison time.

09 Feb 2013 13:31:09
Agreed Ed they've had send batches off to specialist testing places to see if any contain this bute drug. Apparently too much of it can be quite nasty for people. I've no problems with eating horse, i've had it in France and it was the best steak i've ever had, much leaner than beef. But if your going to start putting it in food then label it rather than claiming your products 100% beef when its less than half. At least give people the choice. More to the point if we don't know about horse in beef products what else don't we know about? {Ed001's Note - that is the big worry, what else are they putting in food that we haven't found out about?}

09 Feb 2013 11:06:44
When was the last time something GOOD for us ended up in food by accident? pea

It's the very same with Apple products keyboard. To use the Fox phrase, some would say it is even more intrusive with Apple as you have to give credit card details to enable downloading from their site.

And chances are the horse meat is far safer than beef. Have never heard of mad horse disease. Maybe now we can know what happened to Shergar. {Ed001's Note - horse meat is not safer, unless the horses have been bred for food. There are different drugs used by vets to treat food animals to others, due to danger of getting certain drugs into human bloodstreams. I used to rent a cottage on a farm that bred horses for showjumping, I was talking to the couple who owned it one day about eating horse meat. She was explaining about a drug they use to treat their horses sometimes, called bute, which is not allowed in food products. So it is not safer, necessarily.}

True feller very true.

frankyscouse

Haha people like you want this proof and that proof, the guy has photos medals documents of were he was, sas guys have openly admitted that the guy is the real deal, he has e mails of groups wanting to buy he's knowledge, the middle east country invited him and honored him for what he did, and you want him to do he's stuff on camera to prove it to you? plus leave your name next time or I will assume your a flame thread.

frankyscouse

There are "no" coincidences in world constructed by the few. : - (
blindsyde

Who pays for these videos

But if this is the be all end all and he says he has shown someone what he can do. but nothing on film just seems strange that all these ultimate forces can't demonstrate their ability. its basically hearsay which is no different to the media coverage we get

I just watched jesse ventura with the death ray energy weapon. that was mental the man who first got in contact with jesse about it. died of "natural causes ". which is what he said you could actually do with the " death ray" coincidence again. and on dark matters ( the program on sky) it had a program about nikola tesla he invented it. his great grand daugher "internally combusted" another way of dying from the death ray. there's too many coincidences in this world. its practically blatant!
blindsyde

{Ed033's Note - As long as the main stream media call stuff, coincidence or conspiracy, then someone will carry on getting away with stuff

Yeh edd same here barry king seems genuine.

frankyscouse

What year was it filmed?

{Ed033's Note - The above video with John Urwin was filmed in 2012

Agreed edd what's your view on barry king?

frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - Kerry Cassidy makes determinations on whether people appear genuine. I think she hasn't interviewed Casbolt because she probably thinks he's not genuine so I would say that Kerry Cassidy herself must think Barry King is genuine to interview him. Obviously I don't know but what I have heard of him, he seems genuine enough to me.