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10 Jan 2015 11:46:27
U seem to have it in for him ed001.
Have u been nightclubbing?
Girls get drunk and have sex with guys all the time. Doesn't make them rapists.
And how is my point about money stupid? Who would throw there extremely good life away to have sex one night.
Maybe I have sympathy because it happened to a mate I mine and he was innocent. Luckily the girls friends told police she admitted the guy never.
I just don't think he's guilty.
And it's some timing, comin out hogging all the news while
Prince Andrew is barely mentioned.
His gf stuck by him as well and not for money as her dad is a millionaire.
Surprised your so quick to judge ed001.

If a teacher was convicted of rape would it be OK to resume working in a school after prison? Some occupations deny the right to resumption after serving a sentence because of their very nature. Child/teenager protection, being in the public eye as a role model etc. If you enter into these occupations -Doctors, Lawyers, Accountants - you must be aware of the massive consequences if you transgress.
Patrick

09 Jan 2015 11:56:02
Surprise at your hatred for him ed001.
Considering u believe in conspiracies, is it so hard to believe he is infact innocent?
I just don't see why a guy on £20,000 a week would rape someone.
The fact that he still maintains his innocence is another thing as well.
Had he pleaded guilty he would have got less time.
I think he's innocent

The issue here is social media. Lee Hughes did far worse, did get grief, as did Oldham who gave him a route back into football, but it died down soon after. I believe Lee Hughes served 3 years for killing one (look it up for more info).

As abhorrant as rape is, it's not manslaughter or murder. 10 years ago there wasn't social media (it was in it's infancy) and now it's widely used, and married to news media, who now feed off it and to it.

My concern is that 10 years ago Lee Hughes committed a far worse offence and got back into football. 10 years later, today, and Ched Evans shouldn't be allowed to resume his only trade in second or third tier football. Where will we be in another 10 years? Chopping off the hands of thieves?

Pablo

You are probably right guys my point is if that was me I would put all thoughts of my football career on hold until I tried every possible avenue to vindicate myself including a lie detector test.

07 Jan 2015 18:06:13
Zari correct its part of training for intelligence services to beat polygraphs.

Franky, lie detector tests have been demonstrated to be inaccurate.

Lie detectors have been proven to yield false positives, when the person interrogated is under duress.
Additionally, they have also been proven as being unable to tell the difference between a truthful answer and a lie. This is the case, when the person taking the test has undergone relevant training.

Lie detector design is based on the false perception that the variables they detect are products of reflex functions, rather than voluntary ones. There are people who by concentrating can control their heart beat and/or raise their body temperatures. Lastly, one has to consider that sociopaths and compulsive liars also exist.
zari

Am surprised a 2nd rate footballer is the big topic rather than the claims that prince andrew has been doing exactly the same thing, my take on CE if he really is innocent as he claims then take a independent lie detector and if it comes back clear then all well and good, if it comes back he lied, well you know the rest.

He shouldn't in my opinion be aloud back into the public if he has commited rape, his second chance in society should be working at morrisons or some other low paid job like the rest of us, having said that I don't think he's done it, take a look at his website, chedevens.com I think and evidence stacks in his favour.
J

What if he is innocent, as he claims? Surely on a website where people claim that adolf hitler wasn't the monster that history proclaims, then surely we discuss the possibility that maybe the courts/ jury got it wrong, as Evans claims. He must have advisers telling him to say sorry etc, so he can resume his footy career, but would you say sorry for a crime you didn't commit? Everything on here is questioned, from the Boston bombings to the moon landings, but not one person has questioned this. Political correctness gone mad, or a subject too far even for this site?? I personally think that if he is guilty, then castrate him, but I think he deserves to have the same open minded debate/ reasoning that some of histories "monsters" have on this site.

Throwing another name into the mix Ed001 - Marlon King.

I didn't realise he was serving the time on licence either. He needs to wait until he has paid his whole time then before being considered for a comeback. Obviously the acceptance of 100% guilt first should also go without saying.

Lee Hughes got a second chance after killing someone whilst drink driving. That is no better than rape as far as I am concerned, they are both deplorable acts. But if he was allowed, I don't see how Evans can't be, it has to be one rule for all and the precedence has been set.

There are no easy solutions to aberrant behaviour. What is completely neglected in our society is the root cause of a great deal of crime, and any attempts to remedy social disease. Only the punishment is considered. It's dealing with the symptoms rather than the cause.

Yes, I didn't realise he's still serving his time albeit on licence.
People do deserve a second chance and to be able to put things right but it's too big a gamble for a football club when it starts interfering with their income etc. It's also a bit of a non-starter if he cannot accept his guilt, but that won't be happening if he honestly believes himself to be innocent.

He shows no remorse or acceptance of guilt so he's not going to be any use for charity work!
I'm torn on the issue tbh. He's done his crime & his time and should be allowed to get on with his life. But as long as he's in the public eye playing football that is possibly further damaging to his victim.