18 Aug 2017 15:14:04
Nasa in Hebrew
Means deceive.
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18 Aug 2017 18:27:19
People get this misconception on what CGI means when NASA are referring to it. The abbreviation is "Computer Generated Image" and given that most telescopes these days are "digital" telescopes, all images will be computer generated.
I think that should also cover the Galileo satellite too.
The telescope will take around 20,000 images of a single piece of sky, the data is sent to the computer and the computer reconstructs the image from the coding used by the telescope.
As for saying that Hubble or any other satellite telescope has never broken is just an outright lie who ever told you that. There have been several "repair missions" since it's launch in 1991. One thing to mention about space, is you don't need any tools to put two bits of metal together. Because space is a vacuum, there is no air buffer between two said bits of metal. Therefore you get a cold fusion reaction which makes the metal stick.
There is a website which tracks all of the space debris and has an almost real time update sequence.
Here is an image:

Yes, it's bloody disgusting to see all that waste out in space!
But this is why you have "launch windows" for space flights, it's not only about the optimal conditions, but it's about where the space debris is also.
The Van Allen belt is a tough thing to get through without issues. But it's not about the amount of radiation, it's about the length of time you spend in said radiation.
Take Chernobyl for example, you can go right up to power station itself in a hazmat suit for around 15 minutes before you start to get sick, or suffer any long term issue's. After that, you'll probably have to spend a lot of time in recovery, as the radiation levels are comparable to an extinction event.
I'm not an astrophysicist either, I just have a very keen curiosity for all things space. I've read multiple theories and multiple scientific journals on lots of different subjects, through this I come to my own conclusion using my own logic and reason.
And by the way, the reason people get mad at the Flat Earth theory is because in their eyes (and mine too) when confronted with evidence such as constellations and time zones (which would be VERY different if the Earth was flat) the theory becomes preposterous.
For example:
Get a flat surface that you can lift up and rotate a torch around it, you'll see that the face of the paper lights up all at once. If the Earth was flat and it takes 7 minutes (approx) for the light to travel 93 million miles to Earth, then why does it take 8 hours for light from the sun to get from the UK to California?
And why do we see different constellations in the Southern Hemisphere to the Northern? This 100% could not happen if the Earth was flat. Those are the two biggest holes in the Flat Earth theory in my opinion.
I would like to say that I don't mean to come across as rude, arrogant or up myself with these statements. I am of the opinion that you are more than entitled to believe what you feel is right, that's total cool. It's just nice to have a counter argument, just in case. As many smart men have said, curiosity is a sign of intelligence.
Read discussionPeople get this misconception on what CGI means when NASA are referring to it. The abbreviation is "Computer Generated Image" and given that most telescopes these days are "digital" telescopes, all images will be computer generated.
I think that should also cover the Galileo satellite too.
The telescope will take around 20,000 images of a single piece of sky, the data is sent to the computer and the computer reconstructs the image from the coding used by the telescope.
As for saying that Hubble or any other satellite telescope has never broken is just an outright lie who ever told you that. There have been several "repair missions" since it's launch in 1991. One thing to mention about space, is you don't need any tools to put two bits of metal together. Because space is a vacuum, there is no air buffer between two said bits of metal. Therefore you get a cold fusion reaction which makes the metal stick.
There is a website which tracks all of the space debris and has an almost real time update sequence.
Here is an image:

Yes, it's bloody disgusting to see all that waste out in space!
But this is why you have "launch windows" for space flights, it's not only about the optimal conditions, but it's about where the space debris is also.
The Van Allen belt is a tough thing to get through without issues. But it's not about the amount of radiation, it's about the length of time you spend in said radiation.
Take Chernobyl for example, you can go right up to power station itself in a hazmat suit for around 15 minutes before you start to get sick, or suffer any long term issue's. After that, you'll probably have to spend a lot of time in recovery, as the radiation levels are comparable to an extinction event.
I'm not an astrophysicist either, I just have a very keen curiosity for all things space. I've read multiple theories and multiple scientific journals on lots of different subjects, through this I come to my own conclusion using my own logic and reason.
And by the way, the reason people get mad at the Flat Earth theory is because in their eyes (and mine too) when confronted with evidence such as constellations and time zones (which would be VERY different if the Earth was flat) the theory becomes preposterous.
For example:
Get a flat surface that you can lift up and rotate a torch around it, you'll see that the face of the paper lights up all at once. If the Earth was flat and it takes 7 minutes (approx) for the light to travel 93 million miles to Earth, then why does it take 8 hours for light from the sun to get from the UK to California?
And why do we see different constellations in the Southern Hemisphere to the Northern? This 100% could not happen if the Earth was flat. Those are the two biggest holes in the Flat Earth theory in my opinion.
I would like to say that I don't mean to come across as rude, arrogant or up myself with these statements. I am of the opinion that you are more than entitled to believe what you feel is right, that's total cool. It's just nice to have a counter argument, just in case. As many smart men have said, curiosity is a sign of intelligence.
18 Aug 2017 18:47:41
I think the Russians would have been there at some point in the last 48 years if it was possible, but I agree the Van Allen radiation belt is the elephant in the room when it comes to lunar expeditions.
And I agree that there is something very secretive going on in Antarctica.
Read discussionI think the Russians would have been there at some point in the last 48 years if it was possible, but I agree the Van Allen radiation belt is the elephant in the room when it comes to lunar expeditions.
And I agree that there is something very secretive going on in Antarctica.
18 Aug 2017 15:00:02
Yes and Coriolanus effect
Can affect a bullet but not a plane, even through a plane thrust it's self like a bullet
But travels a lot slower over a greater distance.
good posts
And interesting reads people.
Read discussionYes and Coriolanus effect
Can affect a bullet but not a plane, even through a plane thrust it's self like a bullet
But travels a lot slower over a greater distance.
good posts
And interesting reads people.
17 Aug 2017 23:38:32
Yes exactly.
I have heard a theory that where the ice has melted (if it has) .
They believe they have found pyramids under the ice proving to some sort of advanced civilisation was about long before the ice cap was there.
also there is the inner earth theory that you ed have pointed to also being a theory which would be more of an explanation as to why the secrecy for the amount of time it has been in place.
Read discussionYes exactly.
I have heard a theory that where the ice has melted (if it has) .
They believe they have found pyramids under the ice proving to some sort of advanced civilisation was about long before the ice cap was there.
also there is the inner earth theory that you ed have pointed to also being a theory which would be more of an explanation as to why the secrecy for the amount of time it has been in place.
17 Aug 2017 23:41:05
Not alone in your thinking, CTR.
Read discussionNot alone in your thinking, CTR.
17 Aug 2017 23:51:48
Very good point, indeed why is it so secret, very interesting. I doubt we'll ever know 100%.
'Let's put it this way, they are 100% lying to us and either they don't want us to know what's out there or they don't have the super high tech to know what's out there. '
Exactly, they are lying to us, that is fact, like they do about everything else as you well know. I believe the technology is there, but whether it's been tested yet is another matter, I don't think it has. We haven't got close to what's out there because I don't believe we can, yet.
Read discussionVery good point, indeed why is it so secret, very interesting. I doubt we'll ever know 100%.
'Let's put it this way, they are 100% lying to us and either they don't want us to know what's out there or they don't have the super high tech to know what's out there. '
Exactly, they are lying to us, that is fact, like they do about everything else as you well know. I believe the technology is there, but whether it's been tested yet is another matter, I don't think it has. We haven't got close to what's out there because I don't believe we can, yet.
18 Aug 2017 02:40:11
My opinion of flat Earth is easy to find on the forums, but to cut it short I don't believe in it at all, if you'd like to see why, you can see it in the search function, it should be pretty easy to find. ^_^
On NASA and all things space, I think we went to the moon, I think a lot of the evidence to suggest we haven't is easily explained, however there are definitely some anomalies and questions that do need answering.
Can I ask, CTR why you think the stuff from Hubble etc is all lies?
Read discussionMy opinion of flat Earth is easy to find on the forums, but to cut it short I don't believe in it at all, if you'd like to see why, you can see it in the search function, it should be pretty easy to find. ^_^
On NASA and all things space, I think we went to the moon, I think a lot of the evidence to suggest we haven't is easily explained, however there are definitely some anomalies and questions that do need answering.
Can I ask, CTR why you think the stuff from Hubble etc is all lies?
18 Aug 2017 07:42:25
As my mum always tells me, I have a suspicious mind lol.
One thing I have found out is the amount of theory they now simply pass off as facts.
Take evolution for example, that is simply a theory with no concrete evidence imo but it is now taught in schools as fact. We now have a generation coming through that won't question it at all.
I can't prove the world is round or flat so doing so is something I'm not comfortable doing. But what I find very interesting is reaction to it. I have never known a reaction to a conspiracy like it. Ppl get angry.
Ppl will tell u flat out the Queen is a lizard but when u say the world is flat they call u crazy and can get abusive. That intrigues me so much, it's like brainwashing in a cult. If u go against a cult that is exactly the reaction u would expect.
I believe admiral Byrd found something big in Antarctica.
The simulation theory I will look into more as I can't really comment that well without reading into it more.
Southampton, I agree they can't measure curvature or rotation which should send alarm bells ringing imo. If I'm told something as fact but in order to believe it is have to take someone's word for it who themselves have not seen it or can't measure it I'm no different than the people believing there's a man on a cloud watching over me. It's just faith then. I have been lied to, to much to take the word of government.
Read discussionAs my mum always tells me, I have a suspicious mind lol.
One thing I have found out is the amount of theory they now simply pass off as facts.
Take evolution for example, that is simply a theory with no concrete evidence imo but it is now taught in schools as fact. We now have a generation coming through that won't question it at all.
I can't prove the world is round or flat so doing so is something I'm not comfortable doing. But what I find very interesting is reaction to it. I have never known a reaction to a conspiracy like it. Ppl get angry.
Ppl will tell u flat out the Queen is a lizard but when u say the world is flat they call u crazy and can get abusive. That intrigues me so much, it's like brainwashing in a cult. If u go against a cult that is exactly the reaction u would expect.
I believe admiral Byrd found something big in Antarctica.
The simulation theory I will look into more as I can't really comment that well without reading into it more.
Southampton, I agree they can't measure curvature or rotation which should send alarm bells ringing imo. If I'm told something as fact but in order to believe it is have to take someone's word for it who themselves have not seen it or can't measure it I'm no different than the people believing there's a man on a cloud watching over me. It's just faith then. I have been lied to, to much to take the word of government.
17 Aug 2017 22:10:36
Yes I agree with both.
But that is exactly how I look at it and where problem does exist.
the concept runs into a lot of criticism, but when u get past the obvious problems like is there an edge, or if we are not a globe what with the magnetics of it how would this be possible.
But I still cannot find anywhere where they have proven curvature in all mass bodies of water that points to the earth size. considering were 72% water to land apparently .
And why have there been so many attempts to prove the earth is moving and fail.
And the ones they say have been questionable and could easily be manipulated through math as they do.
Also why is no one allowed to go to Antarctica without special permission
And companys in controlled areas.
But do I think the earth is flat, no.
But what if admiral Byrd was right and when he flew over the Antarctic there really was a continent the size of America and a government there to.
And as you say when u look it proves a lot more they talk of is psychological more than the actual reality.
But also as ed says it does also have the opposite
Where if there is real next level tech out there then
The science we're judging things on are bound to be wrong.
Read discussionYes I agree with both.
But that is exactly how I look at it and where problem does exist.
the concept runs into a lot of criticism, but when u get past the obvious problems like is there an edge, or if we are not a globe what with the magnetics of it how would this be possible.
But I still cannot find anywhere where they have proven curvature in all mass bodies of water that points to the earth size. considering were 72% water to land apparently .
And why have there been so many attempts to prove the earth is moving and fail.
And the ones they say have been questionable and could easily be manipulated through math as they do.
Also why is no one allowed to go to Antarctica without special permission
And companys in controlled areas.
But do I think the earth is flat, no.
But what if admiral Byrd was right and when he flew over the Antarctic there really was a continent the size of America and a government there to.
And as you say when u look it proves a lot more they talk of is psychological more than the actual reality.
But also as ed says it does also have the opposite
Where if there is real next level tech out there then
The science we're judging things on are bound to be wrong.
17 Aug 2017 21:36:58
Haha hello buddy.
I really believe we can't go above it atm mate.
When u actually look through the stuff nasa and other space organisations throw out u realise it's all guff.
The pics they show are composites the info they put out all seems amazing but they don't explain how they have all these magic tools to give us them.
When u actually think how far back they have been putting this stuff out it amazing.
From the hubble telescope to the galelao satalite.
I believe in aliens 100% I just don't think they come from another planet per say.
The earth being flat intrigues me.
The momentum it is getting seems all very strange to me.
I honestly believe Antarctica holds a lot of answers to us.
Read discussionHaha hello buddy.
I really believe we can't go above it atm mate.
When u actually look through the stuff nasa and other space organisations throw out u realise it's all guff.
The pics they show are composites the info they put out all seems amazing but they don't explain how they have all these magic tools to give us them.
When u actually think how far back they have been putting this stuff out it amazing.
From the hubble telescope to the galelao satalite.
I believe in aliens 100% I just don't think they come from another planet per say.
The earth being flat intrigues me.
The momentum it is getting seems all very strange to me.
I honestly believe Antarctica holds a lot of answers to us.
26 Feb 2016 20:41:43
I don't think he did it, and don't necessarily think he's not a nice person (at least not based on what you see on camera) .
It's noted that he has a low IQ and as such, made a few poor decisions in his youth.
The lead prosecutor is disgusting. The live press conference he gives when first indicating Brendan's involvement was damning enough to have a lasting effect on everyone who saw it;
The DNA specialist who broke protocol for the first time in her career, and in doing so used the only piece of "blood evidence" so a retest couldn't be performed;
The complete lack of blood in Avery's trailer or garage (even though Brendan said Avery stabbed her in the neck and cut her head off) ;
The police officer who radioed dispatch to report the missing vehicle a couple of days before it was "found" in Avery's yard;
And so many other loose ends, it's impossible to mention.
The whole thing is bent. This case was unique because it was being filmed from the beginning, as a result of Avery's previous wrongful imprisonment.
It begs the question, how many other cases are based on complete lies?
Read discussionI don't think he did it, and don't necessarily think he's not a nice person (at least not based on what you see on camera) .
It's noted that he has a low IQ and as such, made a few poor decisions in his youth.
The lead prosecutor is disgusting. The live press conference he gives when first indicating Brendan's involvement was damning enough to have a lasting effect on everyone who saw it;
The DNA specialist who broke protocol for the first time in her career, and in doing so used the only piece of "blood evidence" so a retest couldn't be performed;
The complete lack of blood in Avery's trailer or garage (even though Brendan said Avery stabbed her in the neck and cut her head off) ;
The police officer who radioed dispatch to report the missing vehicle a couple of days before it was "found" in Avery's yard;
And so many other loose ends, it's impossible to mention.
The whole thing is bent. This case was unique because it was being filmed from the beginning, as a result of Avery's previous wrongful imprisonment.
It begs the question, how many other cases are based on complete lies?
26 Feb 2016 19:09:16
I totally agree mate, although I would lean more towards he done the murder, there is just to much evidence to suggest he did even if u took out the bullet and key etc.
Read discussionI totally agree mate, although I would lean more towards he done the murder, there is just to much evidence to suggest he did even if u took out the bullet and key etc.
28 Jan 2016 20:20:23
Sorry the reply is so late. It was on ITV encore, I suppose it will be on whatever 'player' ITV have too. Well worth it.
Read discussionSorry the reply is so late. It was on ITV encore, I suppose it will be on whatever 'player' ITV have too. Well worth it.
26 Jan 2016 20:47:11
i haven't chris? and don't say that geordie I really meant to watch that and now you made my mind up!
Read discussioni haven't chris? and don't say that geordie I really meant to watch that and now you made my mind up!
22 Jan 2016 21:08:02
I've mentioned it before on non-conspiracy page but you should watch Swedish drama Jordskott. Very similar to the thread of this conversation.
Read discussionI've mentioned it before on non-conspiracy page but you should watch Swedish drama Jordskott. Very similar to the thread of this conversation.
22 Jan 2016 20:43:21
grow,
Have you heard of the hybrid bear that they think is the reason behind the yeti sightings?
Its a cross of a black bear and a polar bear, it can live at real high altitude and if true can grow to over foot when on two legs.
Read discussiongrow,
Have you heard of the hybrid bear that they think is the reason behind the yeti sightings?
Its a cross of a black bear and a polar bear, it can live at real high altitude and if true can grow to over foot when on two legs.
22 Jan 2016 19:39:34
If some cryptids do exist then the powers that be will know about it that's for sure! Probably sick Inhumane experiments that have either gone wrong or escaped specimens! There is a reason that none of these have been widely broadcast and at times completely brushed under the carpet that's the real issue!
Read discussionIf some cryptids do exist then the powers that be will know about it that's for sure! Probably sick Inhumane experiments that have either gone wrong or escaped specimens! There is a reason that none of these have been widely broadcast and at times completely brushed under the carpet that's the real issue!
22 Jan 2016 16:39:57
Eds theory on underground tunnels and caves has some merit but these sasquatch have been seen by many reputable people. The thing that gets me most about the paulides 411 is the cover up going on, even the author himself has admitted that it is very hard to get information from the parks authorities, one case I remember a child was abducted, a family on a nature walk seen a huge figure in the distance carry something over its shoulder running up a mountain but this was never investigate nor were the family interviewed, child has never been found. If any of you do have an interest in cryptids I recommend checking out Dogman encounters on youtube, very interesting stuff and also has some references in missing 411.
Garbo.
Read discussionEds theory on underground tunnels and caves has some merit but these sasquatch have been seen by many reputable people. The thing that gets me most about the paulides 411 is the cover up going on, even the author himself has admitted that it is very hard to get information from the parks authorities, one case I remember a child was abducted, a family on a nature walk seen a huge figure in the distance carry something over its shoulder running up a mountain but this was never investigate nor were the family interviewed, child has never been found. If any of you do have an interest in cryptids I recommend checking out Dogman encounters on youtube, very interesting stuff and also has some references in missing 411.
Garbo.
22 Jan 2016 14:35:55
Yeah I think il give it a blast Chris.
Read discussionYeah I think il give it a blast Chris.