24 Feb 2020 09:46:01
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Nothing wrong with being put right mate
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Southern Monkey · 24 Feb 2020 05:19
Southern Monkey · 24 Feb 2020 05:1924 Feb 2020 00:21:37
I may not be right, Southampton, but I think you are incorrect. Sorry :)
A rocket is basically a controlled explosion over a period of time.
To me the force is happening inside the rocket as the fuel escapes, it doesn't need the escaping fuel to push on something to make it move because there are internal forces at play, which make the rocket move.
Remember that we are told space is a vacuum. A vacuum will not hinder the result of internal forces and this will create a directional movement directly related to where the force originated. Therefor a controlled forward movement in relation to a rocket.
Read discussionI may not be right, Southampton, but I think you are incorrect. Sorry :)
A rocket is basically a controlled explosion over a period of time.
To me the force is happening inside the rocket as the fuel escapes, it doesn't need the escaping fuel to push on something to make it move because there are internal forces at play, which make the rocket move.
Remember that we are told space is a vacuum. A vacuum will not hinder the result of internal forces and this will create a directional movement directly related to where the force originated. Therefor a controlled forward movement in relation to a rocket.
23 Feb 2020 11:02:11
The miniscus on top of an over full glass, raindrops,
Read discussionThe miniscus on top of an over full glass, raindrops,
23 Feb 2020 02:59:16
Sm from what i think I learnt,
On earth the rockets thrust hits our atmosphere and this is what propels the rocket along.
But In a vacuum the energy of thrust would disappear in the vacuum of space.
Read discussionSm from what i think I learnt,
On earth the rockets thrust hits our atmosphere and this is what propels the rocket along.
But In a vacuum the energy of thrust would disappear in the vacuum of space.
22 Feb 2020 22:25:03
Hi Ed just used the link from the Everton banter page didn’t know any of this stuff was here. To the point in hand, firstly I know nothing about space or vacuums or what Torr is yet there a few things that immediately spring to mind .
A. If there is nothing for rockets to push against to move through space how and why do planets orbit the the stars/ suns surely in a such a vacuum nothing would move yet orbits occur and and as a result of said movement there must be a disturbance of the vacuum thus causing a path within the vacuum. The word vacuum itself implies an absence of anything, yet within space there is stuff such as meteors, comets, Satelite’s, space junk etc,
B, each body within the galaxy has a magnetic/ gravitational pull / field and while not visible with the eye are proven to exist therefore with space flight the lunar missions use the gravitational pull of earth and the Moon and their orbits of the earth and moon to achieve breakaway and landing thus providing a force to push against which in turn cause movement as in Newton’s law equal and opposite motion .
And C if a vacuum exists how does the sun warm or illuminate our planet as surely the heat would remain around the sun as the heat of the tea doesn’t heat the outside of your flask.
And D, How does Riquelme get spotted in so many different locations at the same time on transfer deadline day without the ability to move at the speed of light which we know is proven yet couldn’t in a vacuum of nothingness,
it is my conclusion that it’s all a load of bollocks that no one is even close to understanding and it is easier to find reasons why the lunar landings were allegedly faked than except that it just does exist like my unicorn and ability to do magic
I must sign off as I’m due in the electro therapy room
Big C.
Read discussionHi Ed just used the link from the Everton banter page didn’t know any of this stuff was here. To the point in hand, firstly I know nothing about space or vacuums or what Torr is yet there a few things that immediately spring to mind .
A. If there is nothing for rockets to push against to move through space how and why do planets orbit the the stars/ suns surely in a such a vacuum nothing would move yet orbits occur and and as a result of said movement there must be a disturbance of the vacuum thus causing a path within the vacuum. The word vacuum itself implies an absence of anything, yet within space there is stuff such as meteors, comets, Satelite’s, space junk etc,
B, each body within the galaxy has a magnetic/ gravitational pull / field and while not visible with the eye are proven to exist therefore with space flight the lunar missions use the gravitational pull of earth and the Moon and their orbits of the earth and moon to achieve breakaway and landing thus providing a force to push against which in turn cause movement as in Newton’s law equal and opposite motion .
And C if a vacuum exists how does the sun warm or illuminate our planet as surely the heat would remain around the sun as the heat of the tea doesn’t heat the outside of your flask.
And D, How does Riquelme get spotted in so many different locations at the same time on transfer deadline day without the ability to move at the speed of light which we know is proven yet couldn’t in a vacuum of nothingness,
it is my conclusion that it’s all a load of bollocks that no one is even close to understanding and it is easier to find reasons why the lunar landings were allegedly faked than except that it just does exist like my unicorn and ability to do magic
I must sign off as I’m due in the electro therapy room
Big C.
Reply · Southern Monkey · 22 Feb 2020 22:18
Southern Monkey · 22 Feb 2020 22:1822 Feb 2020 22:39:43
And it is probably a case of 'no one knows' if a rocket can work in space or not. I can not find one bit of rocket launch 'external camera' footage that goes beyond 70 - 100 miles up, then it always cuts off or goes to a cartoon.
If someone has seen any footage past this point, please post it here, thanks. And Apollo footage is fake, so don't bother posting low Earth orbit window pics :)
70-100 miles. Wouldn't that be around the height of the starting point/ edge of the 'dome' 'waters above' firmament', Ed?
Read discussionAnd it is probably a case of 'no one knows' if a rocket can work in space or not. I can not find one bit of rocket launch 'external camera' footage that goes beyond 70 - 100 miles up, then it always cuts off or goes to a cartoon.
If someone has seen any footage past this point, please post it here, thanks. And Apollo footage is fake, so don't bother posting low Earth orbit window pics :)
70-100 miles. Wouldn't that be around the height of the starting point/ edge of the 'dome' 'waters above' firmament', Ed?
Reply · Southern Monkey · 22 Feb 2020 21:12
Southern Monkey · 22 Feb 2020 21:1222 Feb 2020 21:57:43
They have allegedly tested the Apollo in a vacuum chamber. I believe the same chamber Le Blanc was in.
I am not saying there isn't fakery, Ed. You know I don't believe we have been to the Moon.
Read discussionThey have allegedly tested the Apollo in a vacuum chamber. I believe the same chamber Le Blanc was in.
I am not saying there isn't fakery, Ed. You know I don't believe we have been to the Moon.
Reply · Southern Monkey · 22 Feb 2020 21:12
Southern Monkey · 22 Feb 2020 21:1222 Feb 2020 22:02:28
You are probably right in saying space suits can not handle being in a vacuum.
The BBC faked a vacuum experiment with James May, I don't know if you have seen this.
This is a clip from the BBC. There are 2 people inside the vacuum chamber with James May and they only have overalls and oxygen masks on. Everything else is exposed to the vacuum.
What was it that happens to exposed parts of the body in a vacuum?
Pure fakery, mate.
Read discussionYou are probably right in saying space suits can not handle being in a vacuum.
The BBC faked a vacuum experiment with James May, I don't know if you have seen this.
This is a clip from the BBC. There are 2 people inside the vacuum chamber with James May and they only have overalls and oxygen masks on. Everything else is exposed to the vacuum.
What was it that happens to exposed parts of the body in a vacuum?
Pure fakery, mate.
Reply · Southern Monkey · 22 Feb 2020 20:35
Southern Monkey · 22 Feb 2020 20:3522 Feb 2020 21:14:18
Jim Le Blanc was the astronaut in the vacuum chamber, but it was apparently an airline that had come loose on his suit which caused him to depressurise. That's what we are told anyway.
I don't know about the rockets not working in a vacuum. The way I am visualising it, is the force of the rocket has to push out of the rocket to escape, therefore there is no external pushing forces needed. the escaping rocket flame is just the burning fuel escaping after it has 'pushed' itself out of the rocket.
I maybe totally wrong. But if say it was an motorised fan which was used as the propeller, and does need an external pushing force, then I would agree it would not work in space.
Read discussionJim Le Blanc was the astronaut in the vacuum chamber, but it was apparently an airline that had come loose on his suit which caused him to depressurise. That's what we are told anyway.
I don't know about the rockets not working in a vacuum. The way I am visualising it, is the force of the rocket has to push out of the rocket to escape, therefore there is no external pushing forces needed. the escaping rocket flame is just the burning fuel escaping after it has 'pushed' itself out of the rocket.
I maybe totally wrong. But if say it was an motorised fan which was used as the propeller, and does need an external pushing force, then I would agree it would not work in space.
22 Feb 2020 21:01:32
If space is a near perfect vacuum like they tell us.
Rockets would have nothing to thrust against.
That's if were understanding a vacuum correct.
But for these test to be correct the vacuum has to be same as space.
The area and vehicle would have to be sized to that of the real environment and thrust.
Or your actually testing something other than operating a rocket in space.
Read discussionIf space is a near perfect vacuum like they tell us.
Rockets would have nothing to thrust against.
That's if were understanding a vacuum correct.
But for these test to be correct the vacuum has to be same as space.
The area and vehicle would have to be sized to that of the real environment and thrust.
Or your actually testing something other than operating a rocket in space.
22 Feb 2020 20:21:42
Can you imagine sending astronauts to the Moon with an alleged 1x10 to minus 11 Torr and not even being able to test whether they can handle being in a 1x10 to minus 11 Torr vacuum?
Apparently only 1 guy in a space suit has ever been in a 1x10 to minus 6 Torr vacuum chamber and he was in there for 2 seconds before passing out and they had to get him out. He said that just before passing out, he could feel the moisture on his tongue boiling.
Read discussionCan you imagine sending astronauts to the Moon with an alleged 1x10 to minus 11 Torr and not even being able to test whether they can handle being in a 1x10 to minus 11 Torr vacuum?
Apparently only 1 guy in a space suit has ever been in a 1x10 to minus 6 Torr vacuum chamber and he was in there for 2 seconds before passing out and they had to get him out. He said that just before passing out, he could feel the moisture on his tongue boiling.
Reply · Southern Monkey · 22 Feb 2020 18:37
Southern Monkey · 22 Feb 2020 18:3722 Feb 2020 17:45:10
According to this experiment, they do. Rockets in a Vacuum Chamber - Newton's third law of motion Visualized
Read discussionAccording to this experiment, they do. Rockets in a Vacuum Chamber - Newton's third law of motion Visualized
22 Feb 2020 00:19:09
Surely even across the Atlantic ocean the curvature of the earth plays a big part.
We all know the world is a sphere right?
Read discussionSurely even across the Atlantic ocean the curvature of the earth plays a big part.
We all know the world is a sphere right?
21 Feb 2020 22:09:30
Yes that is realistic,
If u go above wave height there should be no obstructions to stop a signal being sent straight across.
And to me when I see that video I looked as though a jelly fish type shape appeared after the lighting lol.
Unless that was some sort of pixel mix up on my device.
Read discussionYes that is realistic,
If u go above wave height there should be no obstructions to stop a signal being sent straight across.
And to me when I see that video I looked as though a jelly fish type shape appeared after the lighting lol.
Unless that was some sort of pixel mix up on my device.
21 Feb 2020 20:32:27
Agree land is a total different ball game because of what u have listed.
In regards to the ocean u would have to take into account size of waves above sea level I would guess.
In regards to the satellites I can only see them working as a ballon type configuration.
Read discussionAgree land is a total different ball game because of what u have listed.
In regards to the ocean u would have to take into account size of waves above sea level I would guess.
In regards to the satellites I can only see them working as a ballon type configuration.
21 Feb 2020 20:35:52
That video posted the other day from above the storm was something to see.
Read discussionThat video posted the other day from above the storm was something to see.
21 Feb 2020 18:56:34
For the signal to be constant u would assume it would have to hit something more than atmosphere.
Read discussionFor the signal to be constant u would assume it would have to hit something more than atmosphere.
Reply · Southern Monkey · 20 Feb 2020 19:28
Southern Monkey · 20 Feb 2020 19:2820 Feb 2020 20:23:49
Ed, this has 'FICTION' in the screenshot. Doesn't bode well.
Truth twisted with tales?
Read discussionEd, this has 'FICTION' in the screenshot. Doesn't bode well.
Truth twisted with tales?
19 Feb 2020 10:12:17
It's true u get a Hunger for more info, not only that things seem to make a bit more sense as to how or why something operates as it does.
I think ed33 speaks truth and gives us knowledge to most that come here, and has contributed a lot of time to this site and us.
I'm going to look through the last few months to see what I have missed.
Cheers Sm.
Read discussionIt's true u get a Hunger for more info, not only that things seem to make a bit more sense as to how or why something operates as it does.
I think ed33 speaks truth and gives us knowledge to most that come here, and has contributed a lot of time to this site and us.
I'm going to look through the last few months to see what I have missed.
Cheers Sm.
Reply · Southern Monkey · 18 Feb 2020 22:33
Southern Monkey · 18 Feb 2020 22:3318 Feb 2020 22:38:13
It's amazing the inspiration you get to search that little bit harder, when you have, had your eyes truly opened, Southampton. I have the honourable Ed033 to thank for that.
I think you should read from latish November, on this site, to see my journey down the rabbit hole.
Though, I have always been a 'truther'. I never really, realised just how asleep I was.
I guess it was a case of asking all the 'wrong' questions. Because you still get answers to 'wrong' questions, but they don't show you the truth. Exactly how the 'elite' want it.
Read discussionIt's amazing the inspiration you get to search that little bit harder, when you have, had your eyes truly opened, Southampton. I have the honourable Ed033 to thank for that.
I think you should read from latish November, on this site, to see my journey down the rabbit hole.
Though, I have always been a 'truther'. I never really, realised just how asleep I was.
I guess it was a case of asking all the 'wrong' questions. Because you still get answers to 'wrong' questions, but they don't show you the truth. Exactly how the 'elite' want it.