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29 Oct 2015 15:48:34
Was chatting to my wife about this and she said her gran held out her hand and said her husband's as she reached then end (he'd been dead a number of years) . I like the idea of the evolving thought Franky, there's a great fable/story about dragonfly lava and how they just leave with no goodbye but they've actually metamorphasised (sp? ) into dragonfly.
I different plane of visibility would explain a lot of things. Makes me think of the topics covered in Fringe.

29 Oct 2015 11:55:49
not read the article yet but can speak from personal experience that it does happen, my dad died about 11 years ago and he was mumbling in his sleep about my nan who had died when I was a baby, when I was a teenager my mum was with my aunty while she was on her deathbed and just before she died she opened her eyes and looked into a corner of a room and said dad and smiled, a few minutes later she died.

i do think there is something to it, I have a belief it is a different dimension that we can not see when we pass over, not heaven, trying to explain it better, erm we evolve if that makes sense?

think of a caterpillar it evolves into a butterfly, I just think we all evolve (well some of us )

29 Oct 2015 07:18:39
To be fair it looks like two rocks next to one another, but you never kno.

20 Oct 2015 22:52:03
To be honest I'm not even sure what you meant.

20 Oct 2015 14:03:53
lets see how it plays out kim, if the unthinkable happens I will take back everything I said .

20 Oct 2015 13:32:00
Franky it came out due to a court order. The last people who wanted it out there are those named in it.

20 Oct 2015 10:06:36
kim memo or no memo, info is leaked for a reason.
the timing is on the eve of chilcott getting stick from familes and corbyn to get this report out .

19 Oct 2015 18:08:28
Franky that was misdirection. How do you expect chilcott to look at a private conversation between 2 people who aren't going to admit what was discussed.

This is an internal government memo from the state dept to white house which has only become public due to a court order.

19 Oct 2015 16:58:12
Regarding the OP
I read a while back that Bush/Cheney would never be held accountable for the war on Iraq, some sort of law was changed that excludes them from EVER been prosecuted for the Iraq war.
I would assume that Bliar has the same get out of jail card.

19 Oct 2015 17:06:40
kim do you honestly think the memos are any different from the private conversations blair and bush had to which the chilcot report is looking into?

19 Oct 2015 16:11:12
Franky these were state department memos on Hilary Clintons private server which a court has subpoena'd. Chilcott never saw them as they weren't submitted to the inquiry as evidence. Basically details were kept from the inquiry.

19 Oct 2015 14:09:58
nothing gets leaked from the whitehouse unless there is a reason behind it, as for chilcott I think he is aware what's going on the other side of the pond.

pmqs you have 3 questions (which I think is a joke in its self)
and even thou corbyn detests blair as much as me, I can't see he him going down that route unless this syria vote goes ahead and I suppose he could draw parrallel's with the iraq war.

i think he will stick to the tax credits questions myself.

19 Oct 2015 08:05:16
Franky apparently chilcott has not seen this memo and there are calls to reopen the inquiry for the fresh evidence.

Its came out because I believe an American court demanded to see the emails.

Regards pmqs there's ways to phrase questions.

18 Oct 2015 22:58:25
Story has made it into the MSM in Australia.

18 Oct 2015 22:06:38
in my opinion this information was allowed to be leaked to serve one purpose, to take the heat out of the chilcot report once it comes out, so its preparing the public .

no doubt chilcot has told the establishment what he can't cover up and hence they drip feed us something we all knew.

an example of a truly independent panel was the Hillsborough panel where stuff came out that the families never knew about and it caught the PM with his trousers down hence the apology and being on the back foot.

bringing it up on prime minister question time is an interesting idea, he's going to be putting his old boss on the BBQ and not attacking the tories directly, so I am not sure how the question can be directed at cameron unless he ties it in to syria somehow?

18 Oct 2015 12:42:47
If you mean corbyn he needs to win an election in just over 4 and a half years time. Its by no means a certainty and a lot can happen.

By that time who knows what may have happened and what else will have come out. A weeks a long time in politics 4 years us an eternity.

Maybe if Corbyn raises it at pmqs and pushes for a response from Cameron. Maybe some of you should email it in as a question.

18 Oct 2015 11:40:24
Hope jc hangs him out and sends him to the Hague.

18 Oct 2015 01:22:29
Agreed Ed033.

I wouldn't be surprised if this article will be used to gauge public opinion (by looking at the comments for instance) before it's decided whether to run with it via other outlets or not.

Watch this space.

18 Oct 2015 09:46:32
We all expected it but now the evidence is out in public. What happens next will be interesting.

18 Oct 2015 00:50:20
Yes interesting but not surprising in the least, just what most of us expected.

Didn't Alistair Campbell reveal that Rupert Murdoch had been phoning Blair directly, encouraging him to back the usa in Iraq in exchange for positive coverage by news international?