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Wow SHOUTING down the keyboard, really? I've noticed that's a few occasions now where you don't take kindly to anyone disagreeing.

I was under the impression this page was to discuss the topics raised rather than be shot down when it doesn't match your beliefs. Seems you want to dominate this page without any dissension. Rather totalitarian!

{Ed033's Note - You seem to be using the delphi technique. This is the technique some social workers are taught to goad a response from a parent that can be deemed "violent", even if it is just a small increase in the volume of the parent's voice. This alleged "violent" reaction to the social worker is then deemed enough to allow the child(ren) to be removed.

Like or not he is or was part of the establishment and was a position of trust and he abused it hence my stand on this topic, mate your not going to turn this in to a class argument because if you read my posts I have not mentioned class once, finally I will try and make this crystal clear to you, if EVERYONE WHO IS NOT A RISK TO THE PUBLIC GETS MOVED TO A OPEN PRISON AFTER A COUPLE OF WEEKS OF he's SENTENCE FINE, AGREE WITH YOU, BUT THIS IS NOT THE NORM.

There are different types of fraud. Getting your wife to take points is still a million miles away from conning the elderly out of their life savings.

I'm not advocating jailing anyone who isn't a danger to the public whether they be in a position of importance or not. Franky you seem to be full of hate towards this person because you deem him to be part of the 'establishment', do 2 wrongs make a right? Is this a class issue for you?

I'll reiterate my original point; if someone is no danger to society
why do we feel it necessary to burden the tax payer funded prison system in lieu of any other punishment?

No I have not, you get categorised so murders and violent people won't be on the same wing as a feller who who is dodging paying he's income tax.

How do u know he won't be in with murderer's, u been in wandsworth?

To the unnamed poster again its not because you do not agree with me but like a few of us have said what about the rest of the people who have committed some type of fraud and are no danger to the public?i know for a fact that this is pretty rare for someone who has not even spent one month inside, who ever made this proposal for him to be moved has greased someones pockets.

A wind up because I don't agree with you? Personally I have no time for the man who has proven to be a liar and a coward but my point was he is not a danger to the public. I really fail to see why you are so angry about him being moved prisons or released early from an already overcrowded, expensive and inadequate system.

As a taxpayer I say sue him and his wife for the entire cost of the investigation and trial and let them live with the shame.

24 Mar 2013 11:18:46
I said when he got sentenced this would happen. I said out by the time the football season ends and on to a lucrative book deal, appearing on tv chat shows and maybe a newspaper column. Of course he's deprived of his liberty, he broke the law. Someone like me or franky would have served the full eight months and none of it in an open prison.

Jeffrey archer springs to mind the establishment will always look after their own one rule for the rich and famous one for the rest of us

Deffo a wind up comment from the unnamed poster for one he would not be mixing with murders and nonces he would be in a different wing plus people who don't pay there taxes do not have that luxury to get shifted to a open prison, to me he is lower than low, everyone makes mistakes but that coward could not man up and was willing to let's he's ex take the wrap, I know fellers who have done time and they have more honor than that scroat.

He is of no danger to the public. He is being deprived of liberty and his family, keeping him in a tough prison with murderers and sex offenders would only be about revenge.

Captain how come you seen it already?

I've seen the first ten episodes and it's a very good show would recommend it.

Captain Needa

23 Mar 2013 16:50:43
Seen the trailer a few times on picktv. For me the start will be the most interesting. Its more fascinating to see how society collapses than how it adapts.

Ya seen that looks good
red rrab

A glimpse into the future perhaps? lol. it's a scary thought that if the rubbish was truly to hit the fan it could all become a possibility

I personally believe climate change is a myth not to mention a multi-billion pound a year business, but its the climate of fear we live I find most chilling.

{Ed033's Note - The idea with the carbon tax was to control everyone with a global tax. That idea of a global tax to control everyone is still on the table.

In our part of the world (south india) it is getting hotter and there is talk of an upcoming drought

nikz

How about you look this up - Rising water levels

I believe the topic was regarding the current cold weather not water levels!

The Thames used to freeze solid in the past so it's no where colder than it used to be the world climate cycles, some argue that global warming has prevented even colder temps and that if it was not for man the world would have cooled naturally.

Who knows it maybe be man made or it just maybe the norm but compared to other countires we get away lightly when it comes to weather but we abd our press seem obessed with a bit of rain and snow.

Jonty

I do not think the CIA come out well at all mate, they were going to leave there man stranded in case of bad publicity but I take your point more of what the shah did to the people might have been better, but for a Oscar winning movie its not the american comes to the rescue tripe we normally get.