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Reply · KimPhilby · 22 Nov 2015 09:13
22 Nov 2015 10:12:37
Trust me franky no one is sitting in the bars or restaurants of Moscow and st Petersburg thinking what do the west think. State tv has spent the last few years programming the people to be anti west. They trust Putin.
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Reply · HERBIE · 22 Nov 2015 07:42
22 Nov 2015 08:36:36
Got to agree with Kim on this, It wasn't the Russians who blew up the plane, I just personally can not believe that, like Kim says Russia doesn't give a toss what the west think.
I think Saudi's all the way.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 21 Nov 2015 19:35
21 Nov 2015 20:30:25
not so sure russia does not care what the west thinks if I am honest, like I said its just a gut feeling I have .
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Reply · KimPhilby · 21 Nov 2015 16:38
21 Nov 2015 17:36:16
If your suggesting we blew up our own plane to influence western public opinion then no. No one in Russia cares what the west thinks.

If your suggesting we blew up our own plane to sell going after Isis to the Russian public. We already were. We've all seen putins speech.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 21 Nov 2015 11:43
21 Nov 2015 12:22:34
it was Frith relaying the message to Shaylor, he claimed he got the info from a contact, I have no idea if he is genuine, as for Shaylor loudmouth or not I believe what he came out with, which made him go on the run, he lost the plot no doubt, I think he was put in a mental hospital then suddenly wanted to dress like a woman and claimed he was gods child, in other words he got the bradley manning treatment as for the story itself I agree kim I do not think it was mossard but I do not think it was the saudis /isis as well, I still think the russians had a helping hand to the crash, now the public see them as fighting isis instead of backing assad, just my take on it.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 21 Nov 2015 10:49
21 Nov 2015 11:35:26
1. Shaylor has always been a loudmouth and talks far too much for someone in the know. Especially as he's ex mi5 and talking about things that never involved him.

2. If its the same person Frith isn't his real name.

3. Paris has a lot of safe houses. And its a major rail and plane hub. Perfect place for someone leaving Britain to go.

4. I've been saying all week it was the Saudis. And yes people in the intelligence services have been saying the same.

5. Mi5 wouldn't instruct mossad to do anything. Mainly because foreign operations are outside of mi5s remit. You would mean mi6. But your also forgetting mossad doesn't take orders from any foreign agency. Mossad in the wider community are known as uncooperative headcases. To use an Americanism they are assholes.

5. Mossad has nothing to do with Saudi arabia. They have their own people for stuff like that.
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Reply · Rian · 20 Nov 2015 15:37
20 Nov 2015 16:15:41
I've believed it was Mossad from the start Franky, although the people on the ground doing the dirty deed may not have known who their real paymasters were.
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Reply · Telemicus · 17 Nov 2015 20:14
17 Nov 2015 20:51:15
ISIS are rebelling against the nations bombing Syria. Russia are one such nation. Its also why the US have been threatened next.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 17 Nov 2015 13:59
17 Nov 2015 14:54:38
it really makes no sense for isis or whoever to get russia involved,
the west do not want russia anywhere near syria so you can rule them out, isis now want to get bombed from everyone?

who really gains from that plane getting bombed? before it went down msm were hot on putin backing a so called dictator, threatening many things against russia. anyone who thinks how could a government use an incident like that to justify military action should google the gulf of tonkin incident, as for arrests made, the guilford 4 and LHO to name a few proves its not that hard to frame people.
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Reply · MrJonesy · 17 Nov 2015 12:15
17 Nov 2015 12:57:28
In my not so professional opinion it always seemed to me when a government or some sort of organisation declared a terrorist or some kind of false flag attack. It was reported immediately in the msm with some underlying agenda. I just don't feel the same about this one, the Russians again in my opinion would just go in without needing a pretext and it took a while for them to break the news. But again you never know, anybody can be up to anything.
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Reply · Rian · 17 Nov 2015 11:13
17 Nov 2015 12:01:22
More likely Mossad pulling the strings on this imo Franky.
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Reply · HERBIE · 14 Nov 2015 21:42
14 Nov 2015 21:26:44
Quite scary to be honest, things are happening exactly how the cartoon said it could.
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Reply · hsf · 08 Nov 2015 14:25
08 Nov 2015 15:22:56
Being a Cannabis smoker myself, I've read a lot of Rick Simpson, not sure what to make of him though.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 30 Oct 2015 00:03
30 Oct 2015 00:23:58
Not to say that they aren't up to something. But such evocative nomenclature.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 20 Oct 2015 22:05
20 Oct 2015 22:50:13
I don't think most people cared that much about it. Everyone knows what the bullingdon club get up to. Drunken toff student pranks hardly matter. It was all about embarrassing Cameron on a grudge. Its barely even believable. I think there was a similar story about Lyndon Johnson.
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Reply · growbun28 · 20 Oct 2015 21:49
20 Oct 2015 22:25:03
Haven't Amazon just took a whole host of people to court for leaving fake reviews and ratings.?
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Reply · frankyscouser · 20 Oct 2015 18:13
20 Oct 2015 19:03:26
i think like most grudge books there will be half truths in it and whatever way you want to look at it a feller who embarrassed the PM reliable or not has just got a untimely illness.

https://goo.gl/WM23V6
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Reply · frankyscouser · 20 Oct 2015 14:40
20 Oct 2015 15:31:08
what can you do to a wealthy lord?
you can't threaten him if they did it never worked.
you can't demonize him in the press because he's one of there own, also the left wing media would be putting it in there headlines.

how do you shut up someone that is embarrassing the PM?
yes he has a grudge no doubt about it .
reliable or not I would have thought a legal writ to stop the book if it was inaccurate in any way.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 20 Oct 2015 13:18
20 Oct 2015 14:05:59
am I guessing aschcroft knew a hell of a lot more that was not in the book .
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