20 Nov 2015 15:04:16
more on the downed Russian plane, David Shaylor ex Mi5 agent and a guy called Charles Edward Frith, not sure if its he's real name, have been saying British intel point the finger at the Saudis, which means in there opinion that Mi5 instructed Mossad to do it, but they are all in it together,
not sure I go along with that but I have never been a agent,
another strange thing pointed out by Shaylor was when he and ex lover and also mi5 agent were on the run, they left the country to paris, a two minute walk from the bataclan thearte .
20 Nov 2015 16:15:41
I've believed it was Mossad from the start Franky, although the people on the ground doing the dirty deed may not have known who their real paymasters were.
I've believed it was Mossad from the start Franky, although the people on the ground doing the dirty deed may not have known who their real paymasters were.
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21 Nov 2015 11:35:26
1. Shaylor has always been a loudmouth and talks far too much for someone in the know. Especially as he's ex mi5 and talking about things that never involved him.
2. If its the same person Frith isn't his real name.
3. Paris has a lot of safe houses. And its a major rail and plane hub. Perfect place for someone leaving Britain to go.
4. I've been saying all week it was the Saudis. And yes people in the intelligence services have been saying the same.
5. Mi5 wouldn't instruct mossad to do anything. Mainly because foreign operations are outside of mi5s remit. You would mean mi6. But your also forgetting mossad doesn't take orders from any foreign agency. Mossad in the wider community are known as uncooperative headcases. To use an Americanism they are assholes.
5. Mossad has nothing to do with Saudi arabia. They have their own people for stuff like that.
1. Shaylor has always been a loudmouth and talks far too much for someone in the know. Especially as he's ex mi5 and talking about things that never involved him.
2. If its the same person Frith isn't his real name.
3. Paris has a lot of safe houses. And its a major rail and plane hub. Perfect place for someone leaving Britain to go.
4. I've been saying all week it was the Saudis. And yes people in the intelligence services have been saying the same.
5. Mi5 wouldn't instruct mossad to do anything. Mainly because foreign operations are outside of mi5s remit. You would mean mi6. But your also forgetting mossad doesn't take orders from any foreign agency. Mossad in the wider community are known as uncooperative headcases. To use an Americanism they are assholes.
5. Mossad has nothing to do with Saudi arabia. They have their own people for stuff like that.
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21 Nov 2015 12:22:34
it was Frith relaying the message to Shaylor, he claimed he got the info from a contact, I have no idea if he is genuine, as for Shaylor loudmouth or not I believe what he came out with, which made him go on the run, he lost the plot no doubt, I think he was put in a mental hospital then suddenly wanted to dress like a woman and claimed he was gods child, in other words he got the bradley manning treatment as for the story itself I agree kim I do not think it was mossard but I do not think it was the saudis /isis as well, I still think the russians had a helping hand to the crash, now the public see them as fighting isis instead of backing assad, just my take on it.
it was Frith relaying the message to Shaylor, he claimed he got the info from a contact, I have no idea if he is genuine, as for Shaylor loudmouth or not I believe what he came out with, which made him go on the run, he lost the plot no doubt, I think he was put in a mental hospital then suddenly wanted to dress like a woman and claimed he was gods child, in other words he got the bradley manning treatment as for the story itself I agree kim I do not think it was mossard but I do not think it was the saudis /isis as well, I still think the russians had a helping hand to the crash, now the public see them as fighting isis instead of backing assad, just my take on it.
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21 Nov 2015 17:36:16
If your suggesting we blew up our own plane to influence western public opinion then no. No one in Russia cares what the west thinks.
If your suggesting we blew up our own plane to sell going after Isis to the Russian public. We already were. We've all seen putins speech.
If your suggesting we blew up our own plane to influence western public opinion then no. No one in Russia cares what the west thinks.
If your suggesting we blew up our own plane to sell going after Isis to the Russian public. We already were. We've all seen putins speech.
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21 Nov 2015 20:30:25
not so sure russia does not care what the west thinks if I am honest, like I said its just a gut feeling I have .
not so sure russia does not care what the west thinks if I am honest, like I said its just a gut feeling I have .
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22 Nov 2015 08:36:36
Got to agree with Kim on this, It wasn't the Russians who blew up the plane, I just personally can not believe that, like Kim says Russia doesn't give a toss what the west think.
I think Saudi's all the way.
Got to agree with Kim on this, It wasn't the Russians who blew up the plane, I just personally can not believe that, like Kim says Russia doesn't give a toss what the west think.
I think Saudi's all the way.
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22 Nov 2015 10:12:37
Trust me franky no one is sitting in the bars or restaurants of Moscow and st Petersburg thinking what do the west think. State tv has spent the last few years programming the people to be anti west. They trust Putin.
Trust me franky no one is sitting in the bars or restaurants of Moscow and st Petersburg thinking what do the west think. State tv has spent the last few years programming the people to be anti west. They trust Putin.
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