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Reply · Geordiesteve · 11 Dec 2014 10:16
Is David Irvine the fella who was jailed a few years back for holocaust denial?
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Reply · frankyscouser · 11 Dec 2014 04:03
Here is a radio interview with the real maker of the Hitler (my mistake) documentary and I assumed he would be a well educated posh bloke, I could not be more wrong, glad to say he is on twitter and I have let him know how powerful that documentary was and I am glad to say we are following each other.

http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/interview-dennis-wise/
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Reply · edinbhoy · 11 Dec 2014 03:42
After seeing your reply ed033 I just typed his name into google with the greatest story never told. There is a website dedicated to it.

http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/

I have had a quick look through and there is an interview with the maker, its 90 minutes long. I have not watched it yet here is a link to some Q & As by Dennis Wise, found it quite interesting personally.

http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/10-questions-answered-by-dennis-wise/

Also I am 4 hours into the 6 hour documentary. thanks to whoever posted it up in the first place. I am looking forward to finishing it so I can think properly about it all.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 11 Dec 2014 03:41
Sorry edd I watched the hitler stuff irving was saying and it was exactly the same, did wise use irvings findings.?
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Reply · Garbo · 09 Dec 2014 14:58
I was expecting that to be a star of some sort, who comes up with these ideas and how much are they getting paid!
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Reply · frankyscouser · 07 Dec 2014 12:34
I am not talking about Ireland and Afghanistan in the same breath I am merely saying the troops are trained to take orders and are brainwashed, some think they are right to do what they have done and some of them regret and wake up.
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Reply · TTTS · 07 Dec 2014 11:26
There's no way you could ever compare what's happening in Afghanistan to what happened in Ireland, in scale alone.
But take other "campaigns", eg Kenya, which seems to be conveniently wiped from the history books.
I've started watching the link below, the greatest story never told, certainly eye opening.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 07 Dec 2014 10:31
I have no doubt you could mate my point is its never black and white, I have a mate who was in the army in Afghanistan about ten years ago, same things happening there like in ireland back in the day, kidnappings /murders and stuff he will never ever talk about, he hates what the military are doing there and calls it a con, I will ask him to write a post about what they were ordered to do but to be honest I doubt he would, think he just wants to forget about it.
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Reply · Not Registered · 07 Dec 2014 10:31
07 Dec 2014 11:22:50
Its mostly young teenage boys brainwashed into killing machines. Look at the Americans in Vietnam too, the Russians in Afghanistan. These jihadists now in Syria. Impressionable boys minds warped with hate and given a gun. Not excuse what any of them did, but the real villains are the high ups and those who control them.
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Reply · TTTS · 07 Dec 2014 03:43
Frankly that is just 1 story from 1 person, I could tell 20, my mates could tell 20 more. That is with n the UK. taking in the empire. It. gets scray
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Reply · frankyscouser · 07 Dec 2014 02:55
No doubt there were sadistic military who enjoyed that kind of stuff mate, that feller who spoke sort of said they were programmed to hate with all the propaganda in the 60s and 70s, I was going out with a girl when I was 18 and she used to babysit for this couple, the feller was in Ireland when he was in the army, he said he was a kid when he was there and petrified and that he knocked out a young 10 /11 year old who came out the entry unexpected (he did look remorseful )he said he was taught to hit first ask questions later, anyways being there fked him up, he took to the bottle, split from his partner and had nightmares all the time, he could not have a alarm clock in his bedroom as he would freak out, plus you could not wake him up, he attacked anyone who tried mum/dad/ partner, rambling on here but like the feller on the interview said the real culprits are the ones who the go ahead for this treatment but that does not excuse twisted military doing that to another human being.
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Reply · TTTS · 06 Dec 2014 21:45
This sort of brutality was common through out the occupied counties, I myself and my then pregnant wife had the joy of been stopped by an infamous regiment on a quiet country road. Apart from the few minor bruises to myself and my wife having a gun put to her stomach with the threat to "rid the country of another feni/#n bas#*rd I genuinely feared for our lives.
We were spared further humiliation and possible injury by the arrival of several other cars to the checkpoint.
Such flash checkpoints were regular and many people had the pleasure of meeting the fine young gentlemen sent over to police a civil problem.
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Reply · Not Registered · 06 Dec 2014 15:54
06 Dec 2014 16:45:33
What's with all the hitler stuff lately. The guy has deeply unpleasant ideas on racial superiority and conquest. Even if he had good ideas for improving the lives of his 'chosen' look at the costs involved to those who were the 'unchosen'.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 05 Dec 2014 13:01
Not so sure edd about snowdon, what has happened since? anyone brought to justice? no, nothing snowdon said was never a huge leak, it was documented by different sources but because snowdon was one of their own it was a bigger story, I think this was allowed to come out for many reasons, now they want to make it legal to snoop on us, funny coincidence that eh? on the flip side I think bradley manning is a true hero.
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Reply · Garbo · 05 Dec 2014 11:31
Just ref Ed001's comments, is the truth really the truth if they are telling you?
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Reply · Geordiesteve · 05 Dec 2014 11:08
Ed that is what I have gleaned from reading about him that offered his prospective conquests an option to join him. Apparently he also conscripted (perhaps not great choice of words) those who he had fought against and instead of them being POWs/slaves they were treated as free men and included in his army. My friend also alluded to his relationship with his son (Joshi?) and how the changed him and how he acted in war. Sounds a fascinating character - I believe he is going to be featured in the new Netflix series about Marco Polo.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 05 Dec 2014 11:08
I was never a history buff like some of you guys so its all pretty new to me apart from the odd documentary, as a kid most people loved western movies and you were programmed to hate native Indians, they were always the bad evil ones and even in school they were classed as savages who scalped white men and raped and converted the white women, I think it was in my twenties that I found out it was a big deception, would not have a clue how many got wiped out but let's assume it was more than half as a conservative guess.

the only reason I pose this question is, should we be wary who is laundered now in alternative news and MSM?for example edd snowdon is deemed a hero by most people today but I have a gut feeling something is not right, maybe its because I look back in history and its never black or white.
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Reply · Garbo · 05 Dec 2014 08:58
I remember you mentioned Genghis Kahn before Frankie, so I did a bit of reading on him, I was an avid admirer of Alexander the Great as we were made study him for Classical studies is school. The similarities I found when reading about Khan reminded me a lot of Alexander, such as giving a city a chance to surrender and declare him King, if not they would be slaughtered. Both men seemed to have done this. The book about Alexander was portraying him as a great leader and good to his people, ref education etc. , great war hero who first came the idea of the full length shields for the Macedonian army which was key in all battles. Khan would change the face of horseback battles by training horses to be used to shouts and screams, lighter armory for movability. etc. Questions is, did the nick the real stories about Khan and portray them as Alexander’s good deeds?
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