11 Dec 2015 15:01:28
Franky those that voted for him in the labour leadership election equates to 1% of the population.
I think voter apathy will continue. Voter apathy tends to affect the left more than the right and a hard left leader won't appeal to the majority of the population. Milliband was left of centre and got nowhere. A hard left leader will have even less appeal.
Look at some of the quotes from ordinary people in the recent Oldham by election. They voted labour despite corbyn mainly because they always vote labour and the alternative was ukip.
Every poll conducted has corbyn doing badly. Apart from internal labour ones which have only been sent to certain members. I. e. The core corbyn activists.
He's unpopular with parliamentary party. Which no matter what anyone says are the labour representatives to the people. Not the yobbos who go around abusing people like they did with Stella creasey.
Franky I do like you but on this issue you are letting your emotions rule your head. Trust me, I spent most of my career doing political analysis of Britain for amongst others the soviet government and others. Corbyn has limited appeal to most of the electorate. He has 4 and a half years to get the message across. But if the polls slump his enemies will make a move. His intransigent attitudes though will make things difficult.
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11 Dec 2015 11:12:34
Icke is very smart but unfortunately made some remarks at a time when people were not ready to hear them so that tends to be the thing everyone remembers.
Corbyn has some good ideas. Unfortunately he has failed to adapt over time and his views are somewhat stuck in the early 80s. Its very easy for these to be used as a stick to beat him with. Aldo there are other things as well but I won't do the medias job for them.
I dispute he has a large following. He has a large following amongst labour activists but not in the labour party or the country as whole and the forthcoming civil war in the party will be very damaging.
Personally I give him small odds of fighting the general election.
Read discussionIcke is very smart but unfortunately made some remarks at a time when people were not ready to hear them so that tends to be the thing everyone remembers.
Corbyn has some good ideas. Unfortunately he has failed to adapt over time and his views are somewhat stuck in the early 80s. Its very easy for these to be used as a stick to beat him with. Aldo there are other things as well but I won't do the medias job for them.
I dispute he has a large following. He has a large following amongst labour activists but not in the labour party or the country as whole and the forthcoming civil war in the party will be very damaging.
Personally I give him small odds of fighting the general election.
09 Dec 2015 16:52:26
I think this is one of those occasions jung referred to as synchronicity.
Read discussionI think this is one of those occasions jung referred to as synchronicity.
08 Dec 2015 21:17:53
Its an ingrained habit like never sitting with back to a door.
Read discussionIts an ingrained habit like never sitting with back to a door.
08 Dec 2015 17:15:02
Whenever I go to a new city I always work out where the embassy is, train station, hospital and police station. But that's just me. Seems unusually organised for a rock band.
The song well is it an old song? I've never heard of them.
As I keep saying there is no such thing as coincidence. One maybe. But more than that should always be viewed with suspicion.
Read discussionWhenever I go to a new city I always work out where the embassy is, train station, hospital and police station. But that's just me. Seems unusually organised for a rock band.
The song well is it an old song? I've never heard of them.
As I keep saying there is no such thing as coincidence. One maybe. But more than that should always be viewed with suspicion.
07 Dec 2015 18:30:08
I knew the original.
Read discussionI knew the original.
07 Dec 2015 13:14:56
civil war was essentially a power struggle between two former liberation movements, the People's Movement for the Liberation of Angola (MPLA) and the National Union for the Total Independence of Angola (UNITA) . At the same time, the war served as a surrogate battleground for the Cold War and large-scale direct and indirect international involvement by opposing powers such as the Soviet Union, Cuba, South Africa and the United States was a major feature of the conflict. Major resources include oil, diamonds, gold and copper. Easy to see why everyone was involved.
Read discussioncivil war was essentially a power struggle between two former liberation movements, the People's Movement for the Liberation of Angola (MPLA) and the National Union for the Total Independence of Angola (UNITA) . At the same time, the war served as a surrogate battleground for the Cold War and large-scale direct and indirect international involvement by opposing powers such as the Soviet Union, Cuba, South Africa and the United States was a major feature of the conflict. Major resources include oil, diamonds, gold and copper. Easy to see why everyone was involved.
07 Dec 2015 12:41:52
Tip of the iceberg franky.
The cyber warfare team by all accounts has had a very busy week.
Read discussionTip of the iceberg franky.
The cyber warfare team by all accounts has had a very busy week.
07 Dec 2015 12:50:09
I'm the only one with any secrets. So I guess the rest of the family could say that.
Go to https://goo.gl/btUD2 for more help.
And also https://goo.gl/kUqNxg
Read discussionI'm the only one with any secrets. So I guess the rest of the family could say that.
Go to https://goo.gl/btUD2 for more help.
And also https://goo.gl/kUqNxg
07 Dec 2015 11:50:57
Your welcome. Most things on the internet are findable. i'd try and get hold of those book and see what else they say. And maybe look into a freedom of information request. It might get nowhere but you never know.
Read discussionYour welcome. Most things on the internet are findable. i'd try and get hold of those book and see what else they say. And maybe look into a freedom of information request. It might get nowhere but you never know.
06 Dec 2015 23:00:45
I tried to send a link for ctr which I think had some more information on his grandfather and great uncle. Only ones on the list called Brian and Vic from Cambridge.
goo.gl/is0GgN
Read discussionI tried to send a link for ctr which I think had some more information on his grandfather and great uncle. Only ones on the list called Brian and Vic from Cambridge.
goo.gl/is0GgN
06 Dec 2015 23:04:53
Just saying that if it was the way it happened then ut would only be the French doing it. But also stuff does slip through the cracks.
Read discussionJust saying that if it was the way it happened then ut would only be the French doing it. But also stuff does slip through the cracks.
06 Dec 2015 22:34:55
Intel mistakes do happen. As I said at the time given the number of suspects and the number of personnel needed for monitoring. Plus the chaos of the migrant / refugee crisis and the stupidity of the Schengen system then people fall through cracks.
You seem to be forgetting the French and the Americans were already publicly at least bombing Syria. The only ones prior to Paris not involved were you British.
Now if your going to suggest mi6, remember there are no major secrets in the intelligence community. Something like that couldn't be covered for long and the French would be pissed. If your government needed a false flag to provide a reason to parliament then an attack on a British would have given and the debate wouldn't have lasted 10 hours.
There's certain rules that intelligence agencies abide by and breaking those rules are not tolerated. If a government wants to slaughter its own citizens to make excuses for war that's an internal matter. But attacking another country to provide that reason is a no. And there would be consequences.
To play any game there has to be rules. And in even in the intelligence game there are lines.
Read discussionIntel mistakes do happen. As I said at the time given the number of suspects and the number of personnel needed for monitoring. Plus the chaos of the migrant / refugee crisis and the stupidity of the Schengen system then people fall through cracks.
You seem to be forgetting the French and the Americans were already publicly at least bombing Syria. The only ones prior to Paris not involved were you British.
Now if your going to suggest mi6, remember there are no major secrets in the intelligence community. Something like that couldn't be covered for long and the French would be pissed. If your government needed a false flag to provide a reason to parliament then an attack on a British would have given and the debate wouldn't have lasted 10 hours.
There's certain rules that intelligence agencies abide by and breaking those rules are not tolerated. If a government wants to slaughter its own citizens to make excuses for war that's an internal matter. But attacking another country to provide that reason is a no. And there would be consequences.
To play any game there has to be rules. And in even in the intelligence game there are lines.
06 Dec 2015 16:13:40
Yes turkey has been looking for an excuse to get the rest of nato in to push Russia out.
Putin had good teachers.
Read discussionYes turkey has been looking for an excuse to get the rest of nato in to push Russia out.
Putin had good teachers.
06 Dec 2015 13:01:21
Russia's Huge Announcement That Will Change The War
06 Dec 2015 10:31:24
The usual reason mercenaries were in Africa. Money. The country has a lot of resources the western capitalist cartels wanted to exploit for their own ends. Some of the rebels were communist and supported by Moscow hence the west sending in mercenaries to prop up the government.
Read discussionThe usual reason mercenaries were in Africa. Money. The country has a lot of resources the western capitalist cartels wanted to exploit for their own ends. Some of the rebels were communist and supported by Moscow hence the west sending in mercenaries to prop up the government.
04 Dec 2015 11:35:07
Growbun exactly. You can only go on what your an expert at.
Read discussionGrowbun exactly. You can only go on what your an expert at.
03 Dec 2015 22:48:14
Its a sectarian war between Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran that we're getting dragged into. Don't underestimate the enmity between both branches.
Read discussionIts a sectarian war between Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran that we're getting dragged into. Don't underestimate the enmity between both branches.
03 Dec 2015 17:21:09
We know who's operating it. We know whos profiting from it.
Given that much of the funding comes from Saudi Arabia is it not feasible that they also sent experts and equipment along as well?
The west keeps quiet as it gets it cut and the true backers of Isis turkey and Saudi Arabia, literally, get away with murder.
Read discussionWe know who's operating it. We know whos profiting from it.
Given that much of the funding comes from Saudi Arabia is it not feasible that they also sent experts and equipment along as well?
The west keeps quiet as it gets it cut and the true backers of Isis turkey and Saudi Arabia, literally, get away with murder.
03 Dec 2015 14:27:21
Indeed. If anyone was worried about these oil fields being in the wrong hands then special forces would have gone in to seize them. But if they're already in the "right" hands nothing happens.
O as an aside if anyone has business with the Turkish government or any Turkish corporations I hope you have no sensitive data saved on the cloud or anything.
Read discussionIndeed. If anyone was worried about these oil fields being in the wrong hands then special forces would have gone in to seize them. But if they're already in the "right" hands nothing happens.
O as an aside if anyone has business with the Turkish government or any Turkish corporations I hope you have no sensitive data saved on the cloud or anything.