I disagree steve on this subject sorely for the fact that ufos have been recorded for 100s if not thousands of years, I have no doubt the nazis were trying to build there own type of ufo but for me anything around that time was extra terrestrial.
Right here is a link to the kent freedom movement who give a different take on ben fellows motives, for the record I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with anything but I have mentioned this kent freedom movement site a few times, I first got to know one of the fellers who had many interesting links etc and just mentioned the conspiracy site is also a great place to look into as I have learned heaps about different subjects, in fact I said to him to write a post on here as regulars would be interested.
then I got a load of abuse for being a shill and this site is a shill site, I was thinking wtf is this lads problem? anyways cut a long story short he never did write anything on here but I have been reading his links and members links and there seems to be a pattern, to call everyone a shill and they are not to be trusted, as he admitted to me his group HAVE been infiltrated by agencies, either the feller is paranoid or he is the one putting disinfo out, who knows?
i am just putting a alternative story about ben fellows and people can make there own mind up on this subject, for all I know he could be right I could be wrong.
Yeah by arresting him is only going to draw more heat to the subject as people now know who a Ben Fellows is and now MSM reporting this case is interesting. I agree KC is going to be untouchable add to the fact there is no real evidence but make no mistake they are panicking now with this csa inquiry it emerges david cameron said he is unconcerned about these reports and thinks we should move on, when the top guy says that it really means he is very concerned and a lot of people could be moving on, to the nearest court.
This is a strange case, remember watching him interviewed by police with the secret camera then later on with bill maloney, this is the time when all the saville stuff came out and the ken clark allegations came out and esther rantzen parties were kids were drunk and taking drugs, he was very detailed on what he was saying then he went of the scene for weeks, his g/f put out a appeal threw social media that he has gone missing and she was worried about his safety because they were getting phone call threats, then he turns up alive and well at the bilderberg rally in luton telling the people he was on the run, ask yourself this question, if you was a high profile mp and someone made allegations about you, would you not sue them and clear your name? ken clark can not remember what he was doing on that day, you make your mind up on who you believe.
Obviously by my avatar I am a big Che admirer, a vicious and complex man who murdered people at the end of the day and there is no way getting away from that fact, I do not agree with everything he believed in and everything he done but he stood up to the biggest terrorists on this planet and he lived and died by the sword, that is why we should always question history and who is public enemy number1, no doubt if Che was around he would be classed as another bin laden.
Of course there is a lot more extremest now than there has ever been in modern times, what do you expect to happen when the west have been bombing the middle east since the early 90s, I guess you would get pretty p---ed.
To be totally honest pj the worst case scenro I have told my daughter to avoid popular events were there are going to be masses of crowds but being in a different country over xmas and new year I doubt my girl will take a blind bit of notice, if there is a terror attack there I would suggests do not use any public transport /trains/buses/ferry etc and get out the city center even if it means walking, I do not want to sound dramatic because in all probability nothing will happen but its always best to have a plan b and I will be telling my girl that, have a great time pj my daughter loves it there.
No matter what this guys issues was to hold hostages there is definatly a war on terror agenda on the msm, the guy allegedly he had over 40 sex related charges and a murder accomplice but that was put in the backgound because he fitted the narrative ie Muslim and not the full shilling, maybe I overreacted but when you have a kid the other side of the world you do tend to panic and I will be drumming in to my daughter to keep her wits about her.
my daughter now works in a children's hospital in Brisbane and was off that day and even thou the incident happened in Sydney the swarm of police in Brisbane city center must have been a shock to everyone, one of my daughters ozzy mates switched hospital jobs and moved to Sydney and my girl text her to find out is she ok and her mate said some patients got moved to a safe room while this was going on, shows you how 1 person can be used to lock down a area and most of the services.
a side note, watching the armed response go into the cafe and what looked like a journalist watch with his notes and pen at the ready a few feet away was surreal, I know they are nosey but I would have thought the would have got moved well way, prob nothing.
my daughter and friends are spending xmas in sydney in a few days time and hopefully this is a 1 off incident
Off to bed spoke to my daughter she said brisbane city center is full of police but thankfully she is not in work today so she is at home, also a update on the my daughters mate who spoke to a muslim when she found his wallet, in the end she did give a statement to the police what had happened but has not heard anything more from them, I am expecting they will be in touch now, off to bed now am knackered, hope this incident ends peacefully.
15 Dec 2014 01:00:21 i have been looking at Australia news a lot since my daughter is there and like I mentioned a month or so ago about the incident involving my daughters mate getting told to stay out of Sydney and Brisbane for new year by a Muslim looking man, there is Australia first terrorist incident in Sydney, hope no one gets hurt and I hope this is a one off incident but being a lot more awake than I have ever been, I have been taking a lot more interest in current affairs down under since my girl is there and to me it was like the aussie media were coding this was going to happen, I did say a month or so ago do not be surprised if a terror attack happens there, I just hope its going to be resolved for obvious reasons.
Ken lay was a power broker billionaire who supposedly funded both political parties in the US, he was convicted of many frauds running into many many billions before the recession hit, he would have got life, two days before his trial he died of a suspected heart attack, there is no visible or photographic or true medical evidence to support the idea that Ken Lay is really dead. he was cremated before anyone from the fbi could verify it was him that died, because he died his family keep all the houses and money running into the millions, there has been sightings of him in Paraguay and since his close friend george bush bought a 10000 acre ranch.
It turns out they guy with the walking stick in the audience who challenged brand to stand in the next election is the brother of a m. e. p for ukip, no surprise the bbc found that guy, like I said it was a setup from the start.
12 Dec 2014 12:05:03 after watching question time last night I am in no doubt that russel brand I genuine and not a shill for a few reasons, on the panel they were taking pot shots at him, even the so called labor mp when brand attacked the conservative lady about cut backs she piped up about brand shouting and made it about sexist men shouting over women, and I was thinking wtf?
i had my doubts why they wanted brand back on question time, was it because he was getting people on board with this direct action and they wanted to curb the momentum?
it seemed that way to me from the start, first of all having brand in a conservative hot spot were you will also find ukip dwellers which is fine as brand hand his fair share of his own supporters, do you think the bbc would have put farage and brand and they rest of those city annalists in a inter city like liverpool or manchester?of course they would not, as they do not want to show the real face of the uk, like him or hate him he is right its a diversion tactic to blame all the problems of the uk on the poor, go for the city of london fat cats first, once we have addressed that then look at our boarders and say no more if it is getting full.