03 Sep 2013 10:28:04
i don't wish to sound like a doomsday merchant but history shows that every now and again the reset button has to be pressed either to eradicate one species to introduce a new one or simply to control a species that is expanding out of control. its quite probable that more advanced species have existed prior to our own and have been reset by cataclysmic events and such events as wars do in effect reduce population figures. the fact is the earth has finite resources. food, water and oil are necessary either to live in one way or another. I understand the ethic of some tree hugger claiming "no blood for oil" but no oil = no economy whichever way you dress it up.
the western world is often referred to as the civilised world but were only a fuel strike or three square meals away from becoming very uncivilised. in the movie the matrix humans are referred to as a cancer. in effect we are consuming all the earths resources yet we are still unable to expand and grow beyond our own earth. perhaps human kind needs to be reset, populations expanding number controlled before we literally do bleed the earth dry.
I suppose at least then there will be no more resources left to fight over. grim thought but maybe there are other beings or a new world order that may seem to remotely control us all but maybe they are just protecting the earth from being turned into a barren lifeless rock by US. politics, religion, borders and beliefs are all propaganda weapons and nothing happens for no reason. WW3 is a very distinct possibility and if it does then prepare to be either reset or removed.
RedLeigh75
{Ed033's Note - The controllers would probably think that their brainwashing and mind control programs have worked on you a treat.
According to ancient scriptures, the Vedas in particular, cataclysmic events have occurred in the past and thus in all probability, will occur again. However, calling your own species a cancer sounds more like you are trying to distance yourself from what you perceive and do not agree with, rather than attempting to understand it.
Economics, politics etc. are simply artificial tools that we created in an attempt to better manage our lives. Some of those tools are not only dysfunctional, but purposefully dysfunctional. They create illusions as to what is truly necessary to live which manages to confuse people as designed.
We have the know-how to create a world were every single person on this planet can live their lives in abundance without having any negative impact on the environment. The only thing that prevents us from achieving that is ourselves. Once we are mature enough as a species to live with such pure aims in heart and mind we are certain to succeed.
Additionally, if you believe the powers at be have the ecosystems best interests at hand your behavior has indeed been modified.
Zari
Economics, politics etc. are simply artificial tools that we created in an attempt to better manage our lives. Some of those tools are not only dysfunctional, but purposefully dysfunctional. They create illusions as to what is truly necessary to live which manages to confuse people as designed.
We have the know-how to create a world were every single person on this planet can live their lives in abundance without having any negative impact on the environment. The only thing that prevents us from achieving that is ourselves. Once we are mature enough as a species to live with such pure aims in heart and mind we are certain to succeed.
Additionally, if you believe the powers at be have the ecosystems best interests at hand your behavior has indeed been modified.
Zari
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I suppose having read my post back that you say I am brainwashed ed but I consider myself to be open minded. I tend to agree with most conspiriacy theories, I find many of them intriguing. fact is the power lies with the people. the governments simply use the news to manipulate the masses to control them. yet the masses for the most part stay controlled. we can talk on sites like this but can we actually change anything. as obi wan. once said "who is the bigger fool? the fool or the fool who follows him?"
you can never win. if you turn a blind eye to syria it won't just go away and if you get involved your a war monger, an aggressor. its all about power, super powers always exist. probably the biggest one was the british empire. I've read that the usa had even considered invading britian pre world war 2 because of this. kids of the 80's grew up watching two huge super powers put the world on a knifes edge yet both were born in the shadow of the british empire.
man is supposed to be intelligent yet the one man most considered the most intelligent, albert einstien (personally i'd say tesla was smarter), split the atom which in turn has lead to us intelligent people to build atomic and nuclear weapons which ironically could end the human race.
RedLeigh75
you can never win. if you turn a blind eye to syria it won't just go away and if you get involved your a war monger, an aggressor. its all about power, super powers always exist. probably the biggest one was the british empire. I've read that the usa had even considered invading britian pre world war 2 because of this. kids of the 80's grew up watching two huge super powers put the world on a knifes edge yet both were born in the shadow of the british empire.
man is supposed to be intelligent yet the one man most considered the most intelligent, albert einstien (personally i'd say tesla was smarter), split the atom which in turn has lead to us intelligent people to build atomic and nuclear weapons which ironically could end the human race.
RedLeigh75
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Red disagree with you on this, if we are constantly getting told by the media who are used as a propaganda tool that there will be a shortage of fuel in say 70 years time and we need to start fracking for our own benefit then people who believe in that might as well jump of the mountain with the other lemmings, free energy exists, even if today they suddenly admitted they have just discovered free energy they would still put a tax on it, I read or heard something that in california people who have the big solar power on farms and houses are getting taxed, yes taxing them for the sun, as for food they are manipulating seeds to keep prices higher, I think if we all effed off the tescos/asda chains and grow our own veg etc it would be a small token but still in the right direction.
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I have been reading this page for ages and have read many of your posts franky and ill be honest most all you have to say I agree with. I agree with what you say in principle and if we all changed a little the overall effect would be huge. like I said people have the power. but in reality its rare for the masses to stand up against anything and when it comes to fuel or food the second people think they won't have enough the panic and snap it all up. in return for a relativley comfortable convenient life u become a pawn in a huge chess game.
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I agree with you its our mindset, people believe what is being told over a tv or a radio, I have stopped watching tv apart from the footy and certain shows that I like but on the whole I very rarely watch what I used to watch when I was younger, now why is there not a push from the government to for instance grow veg/fruit etc from a health/money?because it does not make them money, if a quarter of the uk actually made a effort to grow there own greens you would see a massive change, prices would come down and it would set off a chain reaction, something so small could make us powerful, imagine another hypothetical question, what if a quarter of the uk got rid of there cars and rode to work?the government claim they would less cars on the road but in reality it would cripple them less oil less tax /speed cameras etc, my rant is we are not as vulnerable as they try to make out, two changes not massive could make us stronger and them weaker.
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Agreed Franky.
I just polished off a shepherds pie made by the local butcher and apple pie from the local bakery. No added crap and the best stuff I've had fro ages.
If people stuck to growing their own or using locally sourced stuff instead of importing stuff would end up with far less waste.
Mort (too full to think any further)
I just polished off a shepherds pie made by the local butcher and apple pie from the local bakery. No added crap and the best stuff I've had fro ages.
If people stuck to growing their own or using locally sourced stuff instead of importing stuff would end up with far less waste.
Mort (too full to think any further)
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Mate I don't know if anyone who actually makes anything from scratch anymore, my mum baked Apple pies jam pies etc cheese onion pies (yeah we ate a lot of pies) the point is we are relaying on frozen unhealthy foods flooded with anything in it, and the next generation's will not have a clue how to cook. drifting off the subject.
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Saw a good program a couple of years ago about processed vegetables. I know this could easily be propaganda but an independant scientist ( I know! ) had created an artificial stomach, basically he chewed food until he was ready to swallow and then spat it into this artificial stomach. After a while sloshing around in said mecahnism he was able to calculate the amount of vitamins/minerals that were extracted. He had concluded ( the test veg was a carrot ) that raw unprocessed carrots yielded around 20% of the vitamin c contained within, cooked unprocessed carrots 30+% and cooked processed carrots was way over 60%. He stated this was because the processed food had already been broken down during processing, which enabled the body to absorb it much easier. I know it sounds spurious but the science seemed sound and kinda made sense to me. Obviously I took it with a pinch of salt ( no pun intended ) but it just made me think.
Liono74
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To Liono
From what I gather, most vitamins are destroyed when heated to anything above 45oC which would make since as most living tissue begins to wither and die at higher temperatures.
Additionally, there is compelling evidence that suggests enzymes are actually broken down while chewing, due to a reaction with the saliva produced by the mouth and a reaction with oxygen.
Furthermore, most living organisms feed on living things rather than dead ones, which would imply that that is how nature intended for it be.
These are the most common arguments put forth by raw eaters.
Zari
From what I gather, most vitamins are destroyed when heated to anything above 45oC which would make since as most living tissue begins to wither and die at higher temperatures.
Additionally, there is compelling evidence that suggests enzymes are actually broken down while chewing, due to a reaction with the saliva produced by the mouth and a reaction with oxygen.
Furthermore, most living organisms feed on living things rather than dead ones, which would imply that that is how nature intended for it be.
These are the most common arguments put forth by raw eaters.
Zari
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