24 Jun 2014 21:16:34 Haven't been on a while, but just popped in my h… · #10711

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24 Jun 2014 21:16:34
Haven't been on a while, but just popped in my head, in history Egypt were the dominant at one point, so was the Romans and so was the Greek. Atm its the americqns/ English. is this history's way of sayin its time for change. String possibility of middle east imo. quatari money + oil and opium in afghan and the strong fear in the street of a Muslim takeover?

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Geordiesteve
To a certain extent you are correct, the civilisations mentioned, along with other such as Mogol, Ottoman, Persian and so on fell for one of a few reasons. Either they over-stretched and spread themselves too thin, someone bigger and badder came along to subjugate them or an external force came along, such as religion (Roman empire fell as many of their soldiers converted from Mithraism to Christianity), the Ottoman Empire fell because Christianity expanded in search of more followers, not solely due to being conquered. The shift in religious spread is more worrying than invasion at this moment, in my opinion we are heading for another 'Crusades', if they haven't already begun. If you consider the amount of conflict that begins because of religion then we are already there.
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Honestly, I think it's the same "empire". The priesthood has been suppressing freedom of thought since later Egypt and its "rule" books have been in existence since Rome.
They regularly change names and religions but their actions, words, clothing and hats can be traced back through history.

That establishment has been draining Africa and the middle east for resources since they left that area.
I cannot see them returning to it in the near future, as they have been using it to destabilize that greater region.
How would they reed themselves of all the brainwashed "crusaders" they created?

I see them moving their capital to Hong Kong. They have been preparing the city and surrounding areas for a while. Opium wars, Mao's cultural decimation, covert occupation etc. They have already moved the centers of many of their global-reaching corporations there already.
Additionally, they have publicly admitted that the "great chinese experiment" has been a great success and should be promoted as the new way of governance. Kissinger, Rockefeller and Nixon said that as many times as they could.
Capitalism with a totalitarian overtone seems to be the flavor of the future, for the non-sovereigns.
zari
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Geordiesteve
An interesting take on an supreme being ruling class is Danielle Trussoni's Angelology books. Although I tend to give book like this a wide berth, I found it well researched and engaging AND if you replace the angelic race mentioned (along with all the biblical subterfuge) with ETs then it could be a plausible suggestion.
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25 Jun 2014 23:07:47
I agree with Zari, it will be the Chinese century. With Russia a strong supporter. Just look at how Putin has been changing the system from yeltsins version of America over to something nearer the Chinese version.

Kim Philby
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25 Jun 2014 23:38:02
Zari I would be interested on further explanation of what you say.

Kim Philby
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Geordiesteve
I did my Ma dissertation on Gramscian theory and his most well know intimates that whilst there will always be a dominant power, there are always groups attempting to push for supremacy. There will never be utopia/nirvana a perfect world because the lure of power is too enticing.
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