22 Sep 2014 05:27:15 I haven't seen the Foley beheading and don't wan… · #10787

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22 Sep 2014 05:27:15
I haven't seen the Foley beheading and don't want to but from what I have been reading and seeing apparently the videos is fake, reasons being:

1: During the reading of the script he was given, he isn't scared at all, even though he knows what is about to happen.

2: During the first few cuts of his throat apparently there is no blood, and according to medical professionals it should be coming out squirting out.
(and why did it cut out during the scariest most message sending part?)

3: After the beheading when the head is lay on the body, the face doesn't have quite the same features as James Foley.

4: The executioner doesn't have any blood on him after the event.

5: There is no flags, no Allah Akbar during the video, which is always in these videos.

6: His families interviews, fake tears, laughter, not one of his family members looks as sad as they should, considering the circumstances.

7: During his brothers and sisters interview a picture frame falls of the wall, leading some people to believe it is in a studio, which was put together prior to the interview.
(this one is a little far-fetched, or is it?)

8: According to some, James Foley maybe a CIA agent, and his parents were also CIA.

9: The video has been taken down from almost everywhere and it is an "terror act" to view it, what don't they want us to see? their mistakes?
They were never bothered when it was an Iraqi head being shown around like a trophy.

Now i'm not saying I believe this but it does seem to have a good case for being a staged beheading.

It's to either give reason for another war in the middle east, mainly Syria, or to put fear into reporters currently over there, to stop them revealing what is actually going on.

 

Not Registered
I’ve seen the video of James Foley and I can say that what you state is true in my belief that it could be fake or staged, but not for the reasons you consider but agree with you on the motives.

1. Almost daily several times every hostage is threatened: today is the day you die. When this happens 20 or so times in one month and hostages being isolated and then grouped together then the human mind is more than prepared and has accepted death
The script is always there, hostages read scripts every couple of days but once in a while one is chosen to publish in the video. When someone speaks/reads out loud then also the mind starts to accept these scripts as facts.
As for not being scared and such; it’s down to 2 things – when you’re a hostage the main threat the terrorists use against you are the hostages with you. They threaten to torture the other hostages and they torture so that you do what they say i. e: reading a well written script or dying so that others would be saved.
Another factor is Captagon pills – these are type of amphetamines that are spread like crazy in all middle east war regions. They are used by the fighters and used on captive soldiers and hostages. Staying awake for over 2 days on these pills makes you delusional
They are also used in the suicidal bombers recruiting.

2. No blood is visible when the first cuts are done by the so called “Jihadi John” well please be aware that he is not the one who beheads – he is just someone who is more fluent in english and that is it. So there are no cuts here and that’s why James Foley makes no reaction and no pain sounds and no blood squirts. He would think it’s the same gag as everyday that he survived this day and they pranked him. The beheading wouldve been done later and even at later date by the main executioner who would have the biggest ego pride of always doing this job. As for leaving out the most scary part well it’s part of the propaganda – these video beheading (Foley and Sotloff) were published directly by ISIS “government” and not as usual like all before be headings (of syrian/iraqi soldiers, citizens…) who were published by the fighters and other sources. They were well prepared and hollywood style cam angels, since they are westerners then the video isn’t published. Tends to make you feel that ISIS are more compassionate towards the west then to the Arabs.

3. After any beheading the features of the face changes, I saw the video and for me if the beheaded face was the same as the one reading the script before.

4. Again he is not the executioner, and also the next hostage video could've been filmed at a different time.

5. No need for flags anymore since ISIS was already known and a domestic name in every house. As for Allah wAkbar, there isn’t any chantings because this is a threat video and not a captured fighter or some sort.
The media and all the west now is after Jihadi John and not ISIS or it’s leader. This is the propaganda and this is how shifting of priorities takes place; instead of trying to release and rescue the remaining hostages, the priority is who is Jihadi John

6 – 7 – 8. I cannot comment coz I don’t know much about James Foley. But what you state can be part of the truth since it can be very likely the Foley was CIA employed.

9. Making people search more and immerse more in this news can lead to the outcomes they want. It also creates this divide we’re discussing that there could be more the video and that the beheading is fake
Kind makes you hate ISIS more doesn’t it? And accept a war on terrorists ISIS which would ultimately be on Syrian grounds without coordination with the Syrian government leading to world war 3 maybe hehe. All is possible but what am sure of is that most are lies and fiction.

It could be staged and can be real but for me I’m quiet sure where the funding is coming from which is certainly saudi people backed by the US, so one way or another beheading or no beheading they knew and accepted it to be done-the video that is.

It’s unreal how now Sunni vs Shiaa it has become in all Arab countries. The division of each country is too much and if all arab war breaks out then no one would survive.


Franky the info I have is no more than from friends, family members, colleges who are one of Christian, Sunni, Shia, Durzi sects and some who are members in Hezbollah and some extremist Sunnis (backing the islamic state) and some Shiaa and Sunni religious people who are against all what is happening and you can say more peaceful than the christians. Some of these are refuges from iraq and syria with first hand stories of what happened and is happening.
Plus I have friends who are in the lebanese army fighting currently against ISIS (who return every 3-4 days and the get shifted back to the fighting region), others who work in the lebanese intelligence and detective forces. These guys when you get them fired up then they slip up with burried facts hehe. And in a country like Lebanon where war is on the horizon a lot of chit chat sessions take place discussing all. So what I posted before is what is common and similar in all the stories I heard from all the different sects and people.

Cheers,
J.
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frankyscouser
Cheers j, like I said mate keep us all posted when you can and you and your loved ones stay safe.
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