25 Jun 2016 10:14:05 850,000 signatures on the petition calling for a… · #11165

Discussion #11165Talk Sense

25 Jun 2016 10:14:05
850,000 signatures on the petition calling for a 2nd referendum.

In 2008 Ireland rejected the Lisbon treaty, and was promptly told to go back and get it right next time. Which we did, after being threatened with all manner economic repercussions.

Democracy, EU style.

 

Onceared
25 Jun 2016 10:57:45
i hope there isn't a second, it will just create more division. The remain will rejoice, if they have a second we know the outcome, and leave will then stand up and be ridiculed for claiming democracy doesn't exist.
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southampton87
25 Jun 2016 11:44:03
On Rt news they have said Brussels have released a statement saying divorce will be sooner than later. If you removed London from the vote, 80 percent of England have voted out along with the loyal welsh. As a result France, Holland, Germany and two others are pushing and probably going to get a referendum.

Noway, Sweden, Iceland America BMW Audi
Have already spoken and said we will do trade
Australia will trade
China and japan will trade.

BBC will do nothing but cry the elite and there mouth pieces doing the bitchin for them. EU and the elite have been beaten
So will cry and fill our TV with program's to program you lol
It's a joke after that result they think this will work
Even Obama had to suck eggs and say we will always have a special relation
Who told him to do that?

Clearly they will now go to plan b
But hope we are leaving the EU.
{Ed033's Note - it's probable that RT news is a corrupt controlled opposition news outlet for people who have realised the main stream news is corrupt, exactly as UKIP is a corrupt controlled opposition party for people who have realised Conservative, Labour, Liberal, Green Party are corrupt.
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Sanogolovesbentner
25 Jun 2016 12:21:51
Do you think it's human nature to become corrupt ed?
{Ed033's Note - it probably is, but the 'divine' part us is possibly supposed to fight it, rise above it and remove it from our lives as best we can.
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frankyscouser
25 Jun 2016 13:36:56
human nature yes but I think threatened or blackmail is a bigger factor.

i was thinking what if I was in a position to make the world a safer better/ place.

would money motivate me to change my views and actions?
honestly hand on heart I do not think it would, I am not wealthy that is for sure and have gone thru many hardships like most so I do not think that would be a factor.

threatening not so much me but my family or loved ones, well that would be a factor and it would either do two things, fold or come out fighting, I like to think I would do the latter but I would be unsure, that is why I admire so much people who put everything on the line including their lives .
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KimPhilby
25 Jun 2016 13:55:52
If there was a second vote and remain wouldn't there just be a petition for another vote.
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southampton87
25 Jun 2016 13:47:15
Lol
You have a good point ed.
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southampton87
25 Jun 2016 13:50:28
Only problem
Labour have lost any people votes
Similar to cons
Greens lol no need in that worthless bunch of con artists
Lib dem PC correct illness and student heaven
Sorry to say but if a second ref comes
Ukip will win
Like in Scotland in 2020
Then we all lose.
{Ed033's Note - As corbyn might be seen as an unknown, they may take this current opportunity to get him out in a 'non-confidence' in him type vote.
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frankyscouser
25 Jun 2016 15:43:08
ukip policies are 90 per cent all about immigrants
they will be found out for what they are, a right wing splinter tory group.
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southampton87
25 Jun 2016 17:37:01
I do hear ya frankie
I was saying that if the govt play games
More will get fed up
And revolt
Not a good
But can I ask if labour change there immagration policy
Will people call them similar names
To what the brexit bunch had shouted at them
By let's face it majority a Scottish contingent mixed with the confused PC crowd and students!
All I've heard British that want independence say is
Can we have a govt we can get to
Can we have a say as a democracy should on things that
Have a impact on the lives of British decent people
Not rascist not dumb not under educated
People who have a care and love for there homelands.
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frankyscouser
25 Jun 2016 17:55:39
labour have to change their emigration policy I think it was a wake up call in the north east and west.

the vote was more to do with migrant workers than emigration but it is still a factor .

as corbyn said if you bomb countries you are going to cause mass migration so it should always be a last resort not the first .

this breakup will put any more planned wars on the back-burner as they will be trying to stem the domino effect with other countries wanting out.
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Sanogolovesbentner
25 Jun 2016 18:29:12
I for one would welcome ukip over any of the other party's. They should start investing in bright young people and put fund them through university in Economics etc so they could stand a real chance of running the country properly. Anyone that thinks there is ever a chance of salvation under labour or the torys need to wake up.
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southampton87
25 Jun 2016 19:14:41
Hear hear sanogo
That is what will make britian great again
If you make most of you youth duds
We will have a very bleak future.
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frankyscouser
25 Jun 2016 21:13:01
sorry guys if you think ukip are their for the people.
they are funded by a ex tory donor .
farage wants the nhs to be paid by the people and if you think they are the answer then i am sorry they are masquerading as a peoples party.

i agree labour are as just as bad, and until they kick out certain mps then we are stuck with a establishment good cop bad cop.

i know people have questioned corbyn especially after his uturn on brexit, he was stuck between a rock and a hard place, he always said he will listen to people and i have no doubt he was more out than in, as the vote proved many wanted in and he listened to them, also he is very pro union and that must have had a effect in his thinking.

funny enough i put a tweet of support for corbyn and his brother piers tweeted me this

#PiersCorbyn says #DefendOurReferendum! #Blairites #InDenial #OutOfTouch WeatherAction.com #ReturnFishingNOW Piers Corbyn.

piers also thinks climate change is a hoax, a very interesting man.
{Ed033's Note - Yes, UKIP was only created so people had a controlled alternative to BNP as an alternative party to pro EU parties.

What baffles me is if anyone is anti EU, why would they ever vote for a pro EU party in the General election?
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southampton87
25 Jun 2016 22:06:43
I thought farage said
People who can afford it should pay
And media switched it around
But as ed pointed out most have sussed
The main team labour cons lib dem greens
The lot stand for Europe
So many also notice the only different team there on offer is ukip
And merckel is trying that to mate
Make any group that oppose EU
Illeagel
Why we are quite lucky to have made it out
And it can be put to bed
And people can get on with life again.
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frankyscouser
26 Jun 2016 00:00:19
i watched his interview when he got asked about that on sky, he said he would do the same again at that time, he met other left parties in spain and portugal and had to rethink.

also when he became leader he said from the start, his party should listen from the bottom to the top not the other way round, most labour members are pro euro so I guess he went that route,

i have read a piece tonight that obama aides told corbyn he had to sell staying in the eu by joining cameron in live debates, as you know he would not share a platform with him and was the only remainer who never sugar coated the eu, he was very critical off it, hence the PLP are trying to oust him now .

i think icke has got this wrong about corbyn, is he the answer? nope.
but he is not a shill as well imo .
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