19 Oct 2021 14:17:10
Although I would recommend a hard copy to perhaps highlight and make notes as I feel there is a lot of hidden info within, here is an audio version so you can multitask whilst listening.
(parts 2 and 3 are on the channels main page)
THE BOOK OF THE WATCHERS ' Book of Enoch Part 1 '
{Ed033's Note - Thanks SM.
19 Oct 2021 18:22:54
a lot of the bible scares the heck out me christs teachings bring peace and hope to be me but.
a lot of the bible scares the heck out me christs teachings bring peace and hope to be me but.
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19 Oct 2021 18:29:57
southern monkey what do you make of the book of enoch love to here your views on thoughts on it you to ed033.
southern monkey what do you make of the book of enoch love to here your views on thoughts on it you to ed033.
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20 Oct 2021 16:32:41
You sound conflicted, United ireland. But being scared (fear) and having hope are 2 sides of the same coin. Philosophically speaking (Baruch Spinoza) you can not have one without the other and someone without fear has no hope and vice versa. They are feelings of the spirit and in modern science, unquantifiable. Maybe deliberately made so?
As for the Book of Enoch. I find it interesting and possibly helps explain some of things I see and feel. I trust my feelings over my mind. You can not trick my feelings but it is possible to trick a mind to make someone feel a certain way. A corruption of the spirit you might say. But, sadly with all things written, have they been adjusted to deceive people of the Light? Much like an adjusted false timeliness we are all forced to believe from an early age.
The Book of Enoch is non-canonical. It is not part of the bible. Why is that when even Epistles directly quote it, in canonical gospels (Jude) . Who chose not to include it and other texts? Enoch was the grandfather of Noah, surely that should have weight?
Other things that don't sit well with me is why would you eat the flesh (bread) and drink the blood (wine) of a divine part of the trinity that according to the gospels sacrificed himself for our sins? Does this not seem Lucerferian? . I mean, if someone saved your life but tragically lost their own in doing so. Oh let's eat them and drink their blood in thanks for being saved? . Pure satanic.
You question or request was a big topic. It's difficult to get my thoughts compacted in to a written space without it turning in to a book. Hope I have at least given you some insight in to my realm.
You sound conflicted, United ireland. But being scared (fear) and having hope are 2 sides of the same coin. Philosophically speaking (Baruch Spinoza) you can not have one without the other and someone without fear has no hope and vice versa. They are feelings of the spirit and in modern science, unquantifiable. Maybe deliberately made so?
As for the Book of Enoch. I find it interesting and possibly helps explain some of things I see and feel. I trust my feelings over my mind. You can not trick my feelings but it is possible to trick a mind to make someone feel a certain way. A corruption of the spirit you might say. But, sadly with all things written, have they been adjusted to deceive people of the Light? Much like an adjusted false timeliness we are all forced to believe from an early age.
The Book of Enoch is non-canonical. It is not part of the bible. Why is that when even Epistles directly quote it, in canonical gospels (Jude) . Who chose not to include it and other texts? Enoch was the grandfather of Noah, surely that should have weight?
Other things that don't sit well with me is why would you eat the flesh (bread) and drink the blood (wine) of a divine part of the trinity that according to the gospels sacrificed himself for our sins? Does this not seem Lucerferian? . I mean, if someone saved your life but tragically lost their own in doing so. Oh let's eat them and drink their blood in thanks for being saved? . Pure satanic.
You question or request was a big topic. It's difficult to get my thoughts compacted in to a written space without it turning in to a book. Hope I have at least given you some insight in to my realm.
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20 Oct 2021 17:33:22
Southern monkey. ye have given me some insight buddy and thanks for your reply. as for my fear it is the judgement i fear mate as let's just say i have not been a very good person in my younger years. but Christ's teachings give me hope and his sayings bring a peace to me i suppose they were meant to.
i came across some things that says the old testament had the devil in it ordering all the evil and that was why Christ came to set the Israelites free as they had entered into a covenant with him. when you look at the old testament does seem to be a lot of evil in but the new testament is the opposite Christ teachings love and his saying bring a peaceful feeling to you and give you hope. its the old testament that scares me.
if you also look at genesis it says let's make man in our image, seems to be pointing out there is more than one god there when creating man. tbh mate its all confusing i just try be a good person and treat people with kindness and break free from the evils of this world and be at one with nature and just hope for the best when the end comes and Christ's teachings give me that bit of hope.
Southern monkey. ye have given me some insight buddy and thanks for your reply. as for my fear it is the judgement i fear mate as let's just say i have not been a very good person in my younger years. but Christ's teachings give me hope and his sayings bring a peace to me i suppose they were meant to.
i came across some things that says the old testament had the devil in it ordering all the evil and that was why Christ came to set the Israelites free as they had entered into a covenant with him. when you look at the old testament does seem to be a lot of evil in but the new testament is the opposite Christ teachings love and his saying bring a peaceful feeling to you and give you hope. its the old testament that scares me.
if you also look at genesis it says let's make man in our image, seems to be pointing out there is more than one god there when creating man. tbh mate its all confusing i just try be a good person and treat people with kindness and break free from the evils of this world and be at one with nature and just hope for the best when the end comes and Christ's teachings give me that bit of hope.
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20 Oct 2021 17:34:18
what's your views on Jesus?
what's your views on Jesus?
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20 Oct 2021 18:44:09
The words I speak or rather, write, on this site are just my thoughts. I have no intention of making people feel bad about their own faiths or beliefs. I am one that is blessed with a mind that is able to think about such things and not have them burden me when I do not.
I have no intention of offending ANYONE, I just seek meaning and truth and if that offends you that really is YOUR problem. But much love :)
The words I speak or rather, write, on this site are just my thoughts. I have no intention of making people feel bad about their own faiths or beliefs. I am one that is blessed with a mind that is able to think about such things and not have them burden me when I do not.
I have no intention of offending ANYONE, I just seek meaning and truth and if that offends you that really is YOUR problem. But much love :)
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21 Oct 2021 11:55:39
Just for the record the above post was not directed at you United ireland. Was just generalising.
And I think, in The Book of Enoch at least, there is only one God (capitalised) . But there are many gods (not capitalised) created by God. People that have spent their entire lives studying the Bible are still confused by it. I am not a man of the church, I have my own separate beliefs. But the vicar of the local church where I used to live, came to me to share his troubles. I guess he liked hearing debunk Darwin etc haha.
As for Jesus, as previously mentioned. It doesn't sit well with me eating the flesh and drinking the blood of a divine being. On the other hand, it's a noble way to live as he teaches and I think the phrase "what would Jesus do? " is a good guide for someone that is confused over right and wrong. Though this could all be twisted programming. Hope that makes sense.
Just for the record the above post was not directed at you United ireland. Was just generalising.
And I think, in The Book of Enoch at least, there is only one God (capitalised) . But there are many gods (not capitalised) created by God. People that have spent their entire lives studying the Bible are still confused by it. I am not a man of the church, I have my own separate beliefs. But the vicar of the local church where I used to live, came to me to share his troubles. I guess he liked hearing debunk Darwin etc haha.
As for Jesus, as previously mentioned. It doesn't sit well with me eating the flesh and drinking the blood of a divine being. On the other hand, it's a noble way to live as he teaches and I think the phrase "what would Jesus do? " is a good guide for someone that is confused over right and wrong. Though this could all be twisted programming. Hope that makes sense.
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21 Oct 2021 17:13:07
cheers mate. not a church goer myself mate have my own way to i just be a good person and believe in creation and goodness.
cheers mate. not a church goer myself mate have my own way to i just be a good person and believe in creation and goodness.
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21 Oct 2021 19:40:30
Well then, United ireland. I don't think you need fear judgement. You lived in a way, previous to now, that, from what you have explained, makes you feel bad/ wish you hadn't and you now live the polar opposite. That sounds like repent to me. And if you are one that religiously follows the scriptures/ gospels God is very forgiving for those that see the Light. Not so much for those that don't, though. Hope that brings you some inner peace :)
Well then, United ireland. I don't think you need fear judgement. You lived in a way, previous to now, that, from what you have explained, makes you feel bad/ wish you hadn't and you now live the polar opposite. That sounds like repent to me. And if you are one that religiously follows the scriptures/ gospels God is very forgiving for those that see the Light. Not so much for those that don't, though. Hope that brings you some inner peace :)
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21 Oct 2021 19:45:24
I will add. Some of the worst/ evil/ despicable people I have ever met have been incredible religious. So much so they can do no wrong. Go figure?!
I will add. Some of the worst/ evil/ despicable people I have ever met have been incredible religious. So much so they can do no wrong. Go figure?!
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