15 Dec 2015 22:09:13 I am not a big fan of Dr. Steven Greer (among ot… · #12130

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15 Dec 2015 22:09:13
I am not a big fan of Dr. Steven Greer (among other things, he takes credit for other peoples research) I have to say that this was quite an enjoyable watch. There are a couple of things that Greer says that I out right disagree with, as well as making some mistakes - whether by mistake or intentional. Other than that, the information given is backed up by documentation he produces in his presentation.


https://goo.gl/QVYsXu

 

{Ed033's Note - i haven't taken any notice of him for a number of years as Dr. Steven Greer appears to be limited or controlled to some degree and deliberately puts out some disinfo, imo. i.e. how can he possibly know that all ET groups allegedly visiting Earth are benevolent, which he claims or used to claim.
frankyscouser
16 Dec 2015 00:10:10
seem to remember Greer had a bust up with project camelot duo a few years back, I struggle to know who is genuine today and to be honest I am very skeptical about the names mentioned, not to say the Disclosure Project was a scam but more of a containing exercise.
{Ed033's Note - They obviously planned the the Disclosure Project conference just before 9/11 so it would be completely drowned out by 9/11.
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frankyscouser
16 Dec 2015 00:22:32
ahh yes, I only found that out a few months ago. The phrase, "kill two birds with one stone" comes to mind.
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Tuor10
16 Dec 2015 21:32:11
There was a couple of things that were let out the bag prior to 9/11, namely the then American Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, announcing that around 2 trillion dollars was unaccounted for over a 5 year period. To put that in context, the average American congress sanctioned defence budget in that period was around 300 billion.

The one thing Greer mentions, which I actually agree with, is the existence of a "breakaway civilisation" of sorts, that is operating technology way beyond anything most could imagine. Technologies such as Anti-Gravity propulsion and advanced Quantum computing. There is also the facilities that house these projects: Underground bases that are linked via magnetic tube systems. There is also the possibility that we are operating off world; a possibility that I am almost certain to be true. Putting aside the evidence to suggest that there is a secret space programming, the fact that humanity still uses 1940's rocket technology to get us into space while everything else has evolved at an exponential rate, raises many questions.

The biggest problem with trying to get to the bottom of many of these possibilities is the fact that there is so much disinformation circulating out there; so it can sometimes feel like trying to find a needle in a haystack. That said, I think there are a few that are onto something; but I am not sure I put Greer in that category.
{Ed033's Note - i think you're right about everything you said in your post and we've had posts about this topic before.

i think Joseph P. Farrell has some important info on the breakaway civilisation topic. Below is a video for those who might want some info on how the breakaway civilisation may have begun

Dark Journalist & Joseph Farrell: Roots of the Breakaway Civilization (NASA, Nazi International, JFK)
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Tuor10
16 Dec 2015 22:23:42
I read Farrell's book: The SS Brotherhood of the Bell. It was about secret experiments the Nazi's were undertaking. Farrell argues that they were trying to develop anti-gravity propulsion. The funny thing is, the scientists who were working on the Bell project were captured by the Americans and eventually given American citizenship.

I also read an interesting book by a German author (his names alludes me) Who said that the Nazi's SS Cult organisation - The Ahnenerbe - were conducting experiments using the Bell, to creating tears in space time and enter other dimensions; or call forth the beings that inhabited those dimensions. Sounds like the realm of fantasy, but the occult and the belief in higher dimensional beings, was at the root of the esoteric side of Nazism.

Thanks for posting the Video.
{Ed033's Note - Joseph Farrell has done several excellent interviews with dark journalist. All can be found on youtube.
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