22 Sep 2011 13:08:26
Chris. Len would disagree I am using my time wisely but I feel sometimes people really don't know what they're doing or the effect they have, so I will take the time, this last time, to highlight some things.
1) "...consistent that I don't believe aliens have visited the earth and I don't believe in god and I think anyone who does is wrong, just as all the believers think I am wrong. I don't hear them agreeing with me that I could be right." - b****cks mate. I have said it and so have others, if you believe something that is fine, but you are not 'right' and neither are you. You need to learn to stop telling everyone else they are 'wrong' because you do not KNOW they are. Myself, Jay, everyone else, do not say you are wrong. We merely ask that, like us, you justify your beliefs.
2) "what I consider to be ramblings about aliens and gods" - this is a more mild yet no less significant form of your backhandedness. You don't like to say 'talk of aliens', you say 'ramblings', a cheap little pop that makes your feelings crystal clear. There are ways of doing things. By saying 'I 100% disagree, I have never believed in that stuff, this is why' you have respectfully said your part. But you litter your posts with comments like 'ramblings' which leave a bad taste in the mouth. This is't about being over sensitive either, this si a serious skill you need for life, otherwise you will simply have a trail of people who bare you face to face and when you leave, call you a tw4t behind your back, because you are abrasive an unwilling to hear others or learn. In this day and age those type of people get nowhere.
3) Just to highlight, nobody has said your beliefs are wrong. You continually say we are wrong though. Where is your proof? We cannot call you wrong because we have as much proof as you do, the difference is we don't try, we just keep telling you to stop saying you are 'right'.
4) "Little thing called evolution" - little thing called sarcasm? What do you think you are gaining with this level of response? Nothing/
5) "I have no idea and neither do you and yet you choose to take the aliens option as explanation" - yes, some CONSIDER the alien stuff. That is a big generalisation though. You cannot even be bothered to separate the issues being discussed, and you generalise with statements like this. 'I have no idea and neither do you' is probably the first sensible thing I have heard you say. BUt you can't say 'AND you choose to take' - you say 'YET'. Yet? Meaning what? You cannot even believe some people do? Because your take is the right one?
6) "Unfortunately this site seems to have forgotten about these minor irritations and instead wants to focus on complete bloody fruitcake talk about gods and bloody aliens." - I have already commented on this. Where were you when we were talking about Diana, 9/11, Illuminati, the monarchy, Moon landings et al. ? Nowhere. Selective. Chris doesn't believe in Gods therefore there are no Gods. Ok mate. I don't believe in 'God' as I was taught it, but as a man of science who understands one theory of creation, the same one you believe, it is entirely possible that other beings have visited and ancient people thought they were God. What I like to do (rather like bungee jumping because I am scared of heights) is to consider that which I believe to be impossible. Just think about it, imagine if a God really appeared in your life time, or an alien. Just imagine it.
7) "Here's a question for you if aliens have been/ are visiting us why can't they just be open about it and say hello?" - well mate many people think they did. You want to talk about government cover ups, yet not this kind of cover up? There is enough supporting evidence. Do some research and you will see there are thousands of artefacts that pre-date modern man. There are so many things that cannot be explained, that lead people in the direction of ET activity, yet you will not even consider it. You can still maintain your beliefs whilst considering something. But you do not know they haven't been here, so why try and make everyone feel daft for considering they have? THAT is small-minded and arrogant.
8) "In other words imaginary beings that simple people believed in because they didn't know any better." If you still think that deities were imaginary then seriously mate just do us a favour and enrol at your nearest school in year 5. This typifies your stinking attitude to stuff that has been documented for years. Consider this - what we now call kings and presidents were called Gods thousands of years ago. They achieved a great deal more, apparently with 'no' technology or science to speak of. They were certainly not imaginary and only a simple being would say that. This is one of the most condescending, arrogant things I have read for a long time and i sums your attitude up very well. Funny how we don;t start to get any sense from you until we back you into a corner isn't it. Open your eyes, do some research, then, with well-rounded argument, come on here and put us down the proper way, with respect.
9) "Jay you know your stuff no doubt and I am not trying to pretend I know more than you" - cold have fooled us but you actually don't know that much ironically. We continue to ask for your valid input but rarely get it. If you have a theory on something lets hear it, that's what we're all here for.
10) " It is just as likely, in fact much more likely (although you'll never admit it) that aliens have never visited our planet" - aaaaah, the sound of a man caught up in his own bulls**t to such an extent he would come out with a comment like this. So you believe in evolution yet refuse to think ETs would come to our planet. Riiiiiight.
11) "My argument is that when there is a lack of real evidence for something and a lot of evidence against something it is time to take a pragmatic approach and just use some common sense." By saying this, you imply we don't have any - common sense or evidence to suggest there have been visitations. Now what you need to do is some research. Lots. You'll discover your beloved government cover ups too, so you should enjoy it. I hope I am not being too patronising.
12) "Something that, despite all the obvious intelligence on this site, is sadly lacking." There you go again with your snide comments.
13) "Frightened that there is no great mystery, no alien power, no divine intervention, maybe you're frightened to accept that maybe, just maybe this is all there is. Personally I think you are too "simple minded" to realise this." This is an interesting point. It would be a real shame if this is all there is. But there is already evidence that there was once life on Mars. But the point here is you have no right to call anyone on here simple-minded, if anything the people on here are the opposite, they are the ones willing to stretch, question and test what they think they know. You are implying that Jay is delusional and you have no right to do that. You have no idea who is right.
14) " Not that the facts will bother you, you've already been brainwashed to believe a bloody fairy story so I think I will apply the "simple minded" statement to you as well. " Really? Why are you here then?
I am not even going to begin to go through your responses to the star child stuff. You think it's fake, others are prepared to field as much evidence as possible before deciding. You don't like that.
Most of this has come from just TWO of your posts. Is it any wonder we're getting a bit fed up? Nobody minds if you don't believe something mate, nobody cares. We just like to hear explanation, not 'because I'm not simple/mental/a fruitcake like all of you' - there is no place here for that kind of crap. At this point we'd all respect you if you just made an apology but most importantly post on here with a new attitude, start a topic, discuss you point of view without putting others down, etc.
Peace.
Raz