Talk Sense discussion

What point are you trying to make?

I can't figure it out?

Religion is man made to keep the masses under control

This keeping the masses under control helps the illuminati achieve their goal

Where is the contradiction?

If the masses were not under control and rioting for example it would be much more difficult for the illuminati to achieve their goal?

Again where is the contradiction?

Elaborate please Mate?


You seem a bit confused over the issues?

You are comparing apples with oranges and the result you get is nuts?

No! My point is why would they create so many different religions as a means of creating ONE in the end?

Why not start out with ONE then they would have achieved their goal ages ago?

D-Dot

D-DOT - it is a firm belief by those who have done their utmost to explore all religions to their very core beginnings that they did all actually start out as one. What having lots of different 'religions' does it create the potential for each one to be disbelieved - which some feel was one key aim of the illuminati. It is an interesting point. The only religions ever to really have been discredited are the ones that depict a single 'god' - all 'multi-god' religions have just been left to do their own thing because they immediately support the notion that there was never one solitary god.

By creating more than one religion and therefore belief system of who God is, and by having a theory of evolution, the aim converting modern societies to atheism is well under way.

Raz

I see where you are coming from, especially given the similarities in most religions.

But religions fragment all the time, there's always someone with a different argument.

I suppose different religions tailered to control different area's/ peoples?

Well if you are honest with yourself, consider this: if there was simply one theory of God, or even no theory, but everyone believed, then there would be peace, and you would not be able to manipulate people, and nobody would consider the idea that they were not right in their beliefs. But think about this - you introduce a new belief system, and no matter how strong your faith is, a small part of you considers it through the lens of the new belief system. It plants that seed of doubt that can be manipulated. Would there be any form of religious war or power struggle if we all believed the same thing? Of course not. And if you were Illuminati and you had very set-in-stone beliefs about the Creator, and you wanted the rest of the world to feel there is no god, would you use whatever means necessary including creating more than one form of religion? yes you would. Would you use it against people? Of course. Would it help your aim or a faithless world who can be 'conveniently' rescued by your NWO? Of course....
Raz {Ed033's Note - Documentary on mind manipulation, The Century of the Self - ‪www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyPzGUsYyKM&feature=related‬ }

Cheers mate, it's on the to do list which is sadly longer than today had hours.
Raz

Religions are like coffee many flavors

As one religion will not be palatable to all

I thought that was obvious?

Makes sense.. but still doesnt really explain why they didnt just begin with what they are going to call a NWO. Would have been a lot quicker. If no one knew anything else apart from NWO then we would be living in it now. How do you know we are not?

D-Dot

D-Dot - because the anti-chirst isn't here yet. Or ruling yet. It's all about the return of the anti-christ.

There is no such thing as a NWO

I know hulk hogan, razor ramone and I think Diesel were the NWO in the WWF that's about it, am probably on the wrong forum?

Stone Cold battled the NWO!

There is no NWO in any sense like the illuminati?

Alliances have already been formed?

The break up of America as a power will seen china and India exert their place in the military might of the world nations and some new alliances will be formed.

However NWO was just a termed coined, I believe it is a red herring however I am open to be educated?

The illuiminati have been linked to a new world order and so has the emerging economic might of the chinese but does it mean any one thing or point in any one meaningful direction?

The hidden hand {Ed033's Note - My opinion is that it doesn't matter what you call this agenda or what name you give to the groups carrying out the agenda. To me there is an agenda and part of the agenda is in the Aaron Russo interview with Alex Jones as Aaron Russo was friends with Nick Rockefeller. Here is the interview - www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ

Alex Jones is an agent of mis-information

Jones is a tool of the illuminati