24 Sep 2014 13:27:26
Not a conspiracy but I have found out today that Nigel Farage will be visiting my place of work tomorrow. Now I do not vote because I believe no matter who is in power those above them will always run the show. However I particularly despise UKIP and what they stand for.
I am hoping that this guy farage refrains from speaking to us workers as I will not be able to stop myself from voicing my opinion on him and his ideology but if I did would there be any grounds for dismissal?
{Ed033's Note - Don't take this as legal advice, but assuming you haven't just started your job and you're not on a trial period and you're an employee, then voicing your opinion in this instance is no grounds for dismissal. Obviously you wouldn't want to go as far as assault and or battery.
They'd have to be desperate to get rid of you if they did. All you would have to do then is take them to an industrial tribunal for unfair dismissal (might take a while to get a hearing), which is easier than you might think and 2 of the people on the tribunal tend to be more favourable to the employee than the employer anyway, all things being equal.
Although with a case like this (especially with co-workers as witnesses), you should easily win and then the employer would have to pay you for any lost wages (as though you had been working there) and reinstate you in your previous position or (if not possible) as similar as possible position, if you didn't have a new job somewhere else.
They'd have to be desperate to get rid of you if they did. All you would have to do then is take them to an industrial tribunal for unfair dismissal (might take a while to get a hearing), which is easier than you might think and 2 of the people on the tribunal tend to be more favourable to the employee than the employer anyway, all things being equal.
Although with a case like this (especially with co-workers as witnesses), you should easily win and then the employer would have to pay you for any lost wages (as though you had been working there) and reinstate you in your previous position or (if not possible) as similar as possible position, if you didn't have a new job somewhere else.
Why do you despise what UKIP stand for? Surely controlling immigration, leaving the EU (or NWO, as it is really known) and devolving powers is what we should do? I mean, it certainly corroborates with what the majority of you seem to want on here.
Besh
Besh
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24 Sep 2014 21:31:26
Its their methods. Its all very well saying throw out immigrants and leave the eu, but if that doesn't solve the problem then what?
I'm not British, I wasn't born here, I don't have British citizenship, I have citizenship of an EU country and reside in this country because of this. I work in this country, I pay taxes in this country, one of my children was born in this country. But ukip would throw me out? I contribute more to this country than some of the indigenous population.
Certain parties always pop up in times of economic difficulty and target minorities.
Its their methods. Its all very well saying throw out immigrants and leave the eu, but if that doesn't solve the problem then what?
I'm not British, I wasn't born here, I don't have British citizenship, I have citizenship of an EU country and reside in this country because of this. I work in this country, I pay taxes in this country, one of my children was born in this country. But ukip would throw me out? I contribute more to this country than some of the indigenous population.
Certain parties always pop up in times of economic difficulty and target minorities.
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Just because one shares a few specific views with someone else it does not mean they would want to be ruled by that someone.
zari
zari
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No that's not UKIP at all! If you actually read their policies, they only say they want to chuck out people who come to the UK to sponge of the state and use our NHS via health tourism. How is it fair that us taxpayers pay for the Latvian who probably killed Alice Gross to have care on our NHS? How was he even allowed in the country? Many more cases like this, that's what UKIP is against. Not people who contribute. Read their policies!
And one more thing - lots of people on here seem to hold Icke and Jones in high regard - Fararge has been guests on their respected shows before exposing the EU. So if he's good enough for them, why do you all see him as some antichrist?
And one more thing - lots of people on here seem to hold Icke and Jones in high regard - Fararge has been guests on their respected shows before exposing the EU. So if he's good enough for them, why do you all see him as some antichrist?
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Because icke holds court with farage over joining europe does not mean he agrees with ukip policies and the way the go about it, as for people who sponge of the country, if ukip included the monarchy and lords/peers and certain mp's then you can count me in.
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First of all, I do not see him as the antichrist. That is a conditioned term that carries guilt, fear and subordination. In my opinion, a silly thing to say.
I see him as a just another establishment demagogue who is supposedly voicing the opinions of those on the fringes.
Since the fringes have become bigger than the "mains", the establishment is promoting such people in every country of the world to reel people back in. Something which is just not going to happen.
I am a sovereign who will not be ruled. The society I want to be part of is not controlled by a centralized power structure, but progresses through the collective efforts of all those who choose to be part of it.
zari
I see him as a just another establishment demagogue who is supposedly voicing the opinions of those on the fringes.
Since the fringes have become bigger than the "mains", the establishment is promoting such people in every country of the world to reel people back in. Something which is just not going to happen.
I am a sovereign who will not be ruled. The society I want to be part of is not controlled by a centralized power structure, but progresses through the collective efforts of all those who choose to be part of it.
zari
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25 Sep 2014 13:11:41
As I said previously. It will start with "spongers". But the argument is also about foreigners coming here and taking British jobs. If you leave the EU people like me would need work permits like non EU citizens (who would also be on the list to go) its very easy to turn down a work permit application. Once you start throwing out undesirables where do you stop? What do you do to those who resist?
As I said previously. It will start with "spongers". But the argument is also about foreigners coming here and taking British jobs. If you leave the EU people like me would need work permits like non EU citizens (who would also be on the list to go) its very easy to turn down a work permit application. Once you start throwing out undesirables where do you stop? What do you do to those who resist?
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Franky, Fararge has said before he wants rid of house of lords. So that's ticked off. As for just another establishment member, why is he completely against EU, PC extreme culture, international war etc? Surely just another establishment member would join liblabcon? Not ukip? I mean, if fararge had carried on in cons from when he was younger, he could be pm by now! But instead he left, detesting the abuse they were doing to our country! Saying he's just another est. Member doesn't stack up
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Establishment pawns will do and say anything required of them, either because of subordination or through coercion. If Farage is ever in power he will follow suit with the program and either mumble some "Matter of life and death" catchphrase or call everyone a fool for believing his pre-election promises, Merkel style.
That is my opinion.
zari
That is my opinion.
zari
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Totally agree Zari, saying things people want to hear to get you votes, the lib dems leader (forgot his name) got a bit of power and bent over as soon as they joined the tories.
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