09 Dec 2021 07:15:07
Eds, can you put up a link to one of the templates for the letters parents can send to they\'re children\'s school abt giving them the experimental jab please.
I would like to be prepare as there is a lot of talk abt it happening in my country, it would be much appreciated and thanks for all your hard work eds.
{Ed032\'s Note - I haven\'t got a template to hand, bert13.
I will have a look to see if I can find what you are looking for and post it if and when I find it mate. Got a few things to sort out first but it will be today.
I will have a look to see if I can find what you are looking for and post it if and when I find it mate. Got a few things to sort out first but it will be today.
09 Dec 2021 10:10:14
That would be great Ed, tried to find one but I\'m rubbish at these sort of things. Your helps is very much appreciated
That would be great Ed, tried to find one but I\'m rubbish at these sort of things. Your helps is very much appreciated
{Ed032\'s Note - I am not having much luck, bert13.
The only thing I have found is HERE
Ed033 has found some great info from this site for you bert13:
PUB’s Three Notice
Process To Stop Employers Mandating Vaxxes
PUB’s Three Notice
Process To Stop Schools Mandating Masks
Maybe a useful Notice
Of Liability to send to a Headmaster/Principal regarding no mask for your child at school.
This example could be of some use in full of part if you have your offspring in school:
Notice to Revoke Power of Attorney
Dear [Headmaster/Principal],
Due to the severity of the epidemic/pandemic, i hereby serve you notice that, with immediate effect, each Power of Attorney held by [name of school] in relation to [name of your offspring] are now discharged in full without exception.
From now on, with immediate effect, the only protocol in force is; should there be any issues of any kind involving the health and safety of [name of your offspring], the school is required to immediately contact [people + phone numbers], in order for my offspring to be restored to my care, either myself directly and / or any of the aforementioned people.
Sincerely,
By:[Autograph]
All rights reserved.
Scouse Dad Stops Two Schools Vaxxing His Son & Nephew
The only thing I have found is HERE
Ed033 has found some great info from this site for you bert13:
PUB’s Three Notice
Process To Stop Employers Mandating Vaxxes
PUB’s Three Notice
Process To Stop Schools Mandating Masks
Maybe a useful Notice
Of Liability to send to a Headmaster/Principal regarding no mask for your child at school.
This example could be of some use in full of part if you have your offspring in school:
Notice to Revoke Power of Attorney
Dear [Headmaster/Principal],
Due to the severity of the epidemic/pandemic, i hereby serve you notice that, with immediate effect, each Power of Attorney held by [name of school] in relation to [name of your offspring] are now discharged in full without exception.
From now on, with immediate effect, the only protocol in force is; should there be any issues of any kind involving the health and safety of [name of your offspring], the school is required to immediately contact [people + phone numbers], in order for my offspring to be restored to my care, either myself directly and / or any of the aforementioned people.
Sincerely,
By:[Autograph]
All rights reserved.
Scouse Dad Stops Two Schools Vaxxing His Son & Nephew
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09 Dec 2021 12:29:04
Even if you send a letter/notice to the Principal/Headmaster, and then follow up with a phone call to them asking if they received the letter/notice and getting a reassurance from them that under no circumstances is your offspring to be injected with anything; Don\'t assume that your offspring won\'t be injected, because it\'s likely that a group of people will show up at the school, hand a piece of paper to the Principal/Headmaster and then the children will be lined up for jabs.
So in addition to the letter/notice, you\'d want a back up plan, such as telling your child to run out of school.
Homeschooling sounds good to me, if possible.
Even if you send a letter/notice to the Principal/Headmaster, and then follow up with a phone call to them asking if they received the letter/notice and getting a reassurance from them that under no circumstances is your offspring to be injected with anything; Don\'t assume that your offspring won\'t be injected, because it\'s likely that a group of people will show up at the school, hand a piece of paper to the Principal/Headmaster and then the children will be lined up for jabs.
So in addition to the letter/notice, you\'d want a back up plan, such as telling your child to run out of school.
Homeschooling sounds good to me, if possible.
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09 Dec 2021 13:42:30
For those that missed it on here before:
Vaccines in UK are not mandatory. There is an exemption on evidence of medical reasons and the Supreme Court recognises at common law that denial of free and informed consent is a self certified medical reason. See Montgomery v Lanarkshire [2015] UKSC 11
uksc-2013-0136 judgment
In R Wilkinson v Broadmoor : [2001] EWCA Civ 1545, Lady Justice Hale, Supreme Court President, confirmed that forced medical procedure without informed consent \"may be sued in the ordinary way for the (common law) tort of battery\".
bailii.org
In the judgement it was held that acting under statutory authority provides no defence, therefore the Employer will be guilty of coercion on the threat of battery with regards to unlawful dismissal if express evidence of denial of informed consent are unlawfully rejected.
This will result in a breach of contract and also a Tort that can be sued. The above is why mask \"mandate\" exemptions were self certified. It is unlawful for Doctors to interfere with the process of free and informed consent. Informed consent is defined in Montgomery as follows:
1. That the patient is given sufficient information – to allow individuals to make choices that will affect their health and well being on proper information.
2. Sufficient information means informing the patient of the availability of other treatments (and forms of testing).
3. That the patient is informed of the material risks of taking the medical intervention and the material risks of declining it.
If consent is given but the Patient subsequently proves that information provided at the time breached the above common law test of informed consent, the Tort of battery is committed and the medication is unlawful.
The High Court has found children incapable of providing Gillick Competency for experimental medicines with unknown long term effects. Schools therefore risk being sued for battery if ignoring Parental preferences. See Bell v Tavistock [2020] EWHC 3274
Bell-v-Tavistock Judgment
These principles are discussed without reference to case law on this important NHS page on Free and Informed Consent and Gillick Competency.
NHS Consent to treatment
The fundamental common law right to free and informed consent, based on the ancient Tort of battery (trespass to the person), are valid in all 16 Commonwealth Realms and both the Republic of Ireland and USA, where English common law is retained as a body of law.
In Ireland, evidence that English common law rights are retained can be found in the Statute Revision Act (2007) which retained Magna Carta and most of the English Bill of Rights (1688) and much, much more.
irishstatutebook.ie
In USA, English common law rights are retained by the 9th Amendment of the Constitution \"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.\", hence why US courts refer to them.
constitution.congress.gov
For those that missed it on here before:
Vaccines in UK are not mandatory. There is an exemption on evidence of medical reasons and the Supreme Court recognises at common law that denial of free and informed consent is a self certified medical reason. See Montgomery v Lanarkshire [2015] UKSC 11
uksc-2013-0136 judgment
In R Wilkinson v Broadmoor : [2001] EWCA Civ 1545, Lady Justice Hale, Supreme Court President, confirmed that forced medical procedure without informed consent \"may be sued in the ordinary way for the (common law) tort of battery\".
bailii.org
In the judgement it was held that acting under statutory authority provides no defence, therefore the Employer will be guilty of coercion on the threat of battery with regards to unlawful dismissal if express evidence of denial of informed consent are unlawfully rejected.
This will result in a breach of contract and also a Tort that can be sued. The above is why mask \"mandate\" exemptions were self certified. It is unlawful for Doctors to interfere with the process of free and informed consent. Informed consent is defined in Montgomery as follows:
1. That the patient is given sufficient information – to allow individuals to make choices that will affect their health and well being on proper information.
2. Sufficient information means informing the patient of the availability of other treatments (and forms of testing).
3. That the patient is informed of the material risks of taking the medical intervention and the material risks of declining it.
If consent is given but the Patient subsequently proves that information provided at the time breached the above common law test of informed consent, the Tort of battery is committed and the medication is unlawful.
The High Court has found children incapable of providing Gillick Competency for experimental medicines with unknown long term effects. Schools therefore risk being sued for battery if ignoring Parental preferences. See Bell v Tavistock [2020] EWHC 3274
Bell-v-Tavistock Judgment
These principles are discussed without reference to case law on this important NHS page on Free and Informed Consent and Gillick Competency.
NHS Consent to treatment
The fundamental common law right to free and informed consent, based on the ancient Tort of battery (trespass to the person), are valid in all 16 Commonwealth Realms and both the Republic of Ireland and USA, where English common law is retained as a body of law.
In Ireland, evidence that English common law rights are retained can be found in the Statute Revision Act (2007) which retained Magna Carta and most of the English Bill of Rights (1688) and much, much more.
irishstatutebook.ie
In USA, English common law rights are retained by the 9th Amendment of the Constitution \"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.\", hence why US courts refer to them.
constitution.congress.gov
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09 Dec 2021 13:47:04
Thanks very much for your help Ed32, I will get a read through it after work.
Ed33, my kid is only 6, I\'ve told him repeatedly that if someone trys to injected him at school with anything that he can hit, kick and do whatever he can to stop them and tell them to phone daddy. With him being so young it is always a worry but if he acts like that I\'d hope the good nature of people will come through and they will stop.
Thanks very much for your help Ed32, I will get a read through it after work.
Ed33, my kid is only 6, I\'ve told him repeatedly that if someone trys to injected him at school with anything that he can hit, kick and do whatever he can to stop them and tell them to phone daddy. With him being so young it is always a worry but if he acts like that I\'d hope the good nature of people will come through and they will stop.
{Ed032\'s Note - Welcome, bert13. Ed033 has found the good stuff though, but I am happy to pass that info on to you :)
Best of luck , mate.
Best of luck , mate.
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