Talk Sense discussion

No one is being Condescending to you Mate you are being self absorbed

Get over it.

Idealism is fools gold

Positivity is good

You can have the last word Mate I don't need it.

I've been reading this all day, where is the anonymous poster being positive?

Yo must be a slower reader to read this "all day"

And I have read no anonymous posts

Just from Mort & the enchanted one

There is nothing wrong with Mort saying how things 'should' be done. It doesn't make him deluded or anything else. The fact that we have conveniently developed 'civilisation' into something that cannot function through means that comprise idealism is terrible. Doesn't mean anyone's deluded. What's deluded is to see the problems we have and to sit there saying 'yeah but that won't work, this won't work' - the only reason things don't work the way they should is because nobody can be bothered to do things the right way. Nobody can be bothered to overthrow our government and just rule the country differently. Nobody can be bothered to stop eating s**t, drinking s**t, watching s**t, yet we all sit here and say it's wrong. Who's the deluded one? Mort, for saying the way things should be done? Or perhaps all those people in 'less developed' countries who live within their means and who need no western input to live their lives in harmony with the planet? Or is it us, who go on buying PS3s and laptops and paying for gas and electricity and water (what the f***) and working long days to ruin our health and then spend all our earning paying for healthcare. We buy fuel at over £1.30 a litre yet Mort is delusional for his ideals? Sorry but screw that - I also have ideals, it doesn't mean I am deluded. Nobody who says 'the world would work better if' is deluded - it doesn't matter if the 'if' is so unlikely due to whatever reason, it really doesn't matter if it is urealistic - the only reason the idealistic ways of lfie are unrealistic is because we are materialistic people. I could quite happily move to Belize, go live in the jungl, support myself, go back to basics, no need for electricity, no need for technology, I could be self sufficient. Why don't I? Because I LIKE my life the way it is, and that is why we will remain stuck. We all like our water to be heated while we sit there pay come company for the pleasure. We all like the internet, our mobiles, nice clothes. That is why ideals won't work, because the human race is materialistic and it is our culture to be so. Mort isn't delusional, we are.

Raz

Unfortunately my response if I were to make one to you wont be posted as I would tear your post to shreds so no point in making one that addresses your post

Sufice to say mort was being self absorbed ask an adult to explain that to you read morts posts again and think about it!

The enchanted one

That's not the point mate, there's nothing to tear shreds into for my post. I don't side with one eprson over another but I don't side with anyone who calls idealists delusional. Now 'enchanted one' your posts contain more waffle, statements that end in question marks, and general sweeping comments than anybody else's on here! Calling people delusional is very offensive and you shouldn't do it. Calling yourself enchanted is arguably delusional and a LOT of the stuff you post you say with utter conviction yet you say stuff that is seldom wise, new to us or actually on topic, you just waffle. So why don't you consider this before 1) calling anyone on this site delusional (its a conspiracy theory website for god's sake) or indeed threatening to tear into my post. This isn't about anything other than you not being so sanctimonious. Your response to my othr post is utter drivel too, if you were to read my post it is pretty clear that I asked a simple question about a book and before we know what's going on the're an essay from the enchanted one that nobody asked for, which doesn't address the question. Your posts are as self-absorbed as mine, Mort's, LFC's anyone, so my advice is to simply not call people anything as it will backfire. Even if you have a point.
Peace.
Raz

I ask questions to get people to think for themselves and not to be accepting anything of others including me without using their own judgement and research {Ed001's Note - why do you feel the need to be so insulting and derogatory to everyone else? I had to remove most of this post because all you seem to do is put others down.}

See what I mean the eds defend the errant posters

What was so insulting pointing out he an idiot?

It okay for him to be insulting to me? {Ed001's Note - you are the errant poster here, you do nothing but insult people, then you have the cheek to whine when they answer back.}