Talk Sense discussion

Ok assuming that i go with all that, and i'm discounting expert witness terstimony, it leaves 1 very big question:

What happened to the missing plane and people?

Sorry meant to say that i don't discount the experts.

Some conspiracy theorists belive that the plane and passengers went nowhere near the pentagon but served their purpose in this story and were disposed of elsewhere?

The hidden hand

That would make sense to me. Personally, I believe that it was a missile that hit the pentagon, not a plane.
JQuan

It was a drone aircraft, trust no one

Has it ever been established if ALL of the victims have really existed? I guess to make it work, someone real must die in a promotional sense if you get me. They can't be on a missile so they must be silenced another way. For example, take the Captain of the plane. If he is real; he has either been given a new identity and living in some quiet backwater where no one knows him or, he has been kidnapped and executed at another location..Another possibilty, is they could all be fake or a mixture of both, grisly thought i know, but whoever is behind it like killing people.

Nealy fifty years ago the Operation Northwoods document suggests there is the capacity to "Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals for mock-victims."
"Mock victims" = Fake victims

Fake victims = the ability to act it out in such a public way it creates a surge of support from the sheeple to enable more war and removal of your civil liberties.

I feel i'm being a bit brief here but its obvious to me the permutations only come up with an underhand outcome.

As Conan Doyle phrased, "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."

Paragon {Ed033's Note - Firstly none of the so called hijackers were on the official flight lists (people on the flights) and apparently none of the names on the flight lists were middle eastern sounding names. So either the flight lists being given to us are fake or the people they said carried out the hijacking did not get on the planes. Secondly in the Loose Change 9/11 film, they say that 1 of the 9/11 flights was diverted to a military base. Thirdly, typically when there is compensation after a downed flight with deaths, 90% or more of the families of the dead claim the compensation being given out. But only a small fraction of the families of the 9/11 "dead" claimed compensation. Maybe if there were no deaths on the planes, this explains the small fraction of compensation claimed by the families of the "dead" on the planes. Maybe the planes that flew into the twin towers were military drone planes flown by remote control. Maybe a missile or a drone plane hit the pentagon. Maybe a drone plane loaded with baggage/already dead bodies was shot down over Pennsylvania.}

..And what about Shanksville? Again no evidence of a plane, bodies etc, just a hole in the ground.

Again we are expected to believe that just like the Pentagon any real evidence has simply vapourised due to intense impact and temperatures...

Paragon

Also the timing of it as well, early morning when the building was what less than a third full? Most workers were still on there they to work. If the idea was to kill as many as possible then you'd go later on, mid morning or afternoon to maximise casualties.

Ask yourself how an airliner with a fibreglass nosecone can smash a 5m wide hole through 5 separate concentric layers of reinforced walls of the Pentagon, whilst there was no damage caused by the hardest part of the aircraft, namely the engines!

Reginald

Four aircraft parts are known to have been recovered from inside the Pentagon [incidentally the impact hit the only part of the building closed for refurbishment], the aircraft parts included a segment of cockpit identified as being from a Douglas Skywarrior [1950s warplane] an engine part [Douglas Skywarrior] and an angular piece of fuselage [you guessed it, Douglas Skywarrior].

Reginald

I wonder why Raytheon Corps were registered owners of some Douglas Skywarriors, allegedly carrying out some mysterious alterations? And why were such a high proportion of Raytheon and Boeing employees on the flights that hit the twin towers? Flights from Boston to California that are normally fully booked at that time of day on a Tuesday, but were strangely only about a third full this time? And, as mentioned above, did not include any of the named terrorists on the original versions of the passenger lists? One alleged terrorist is actually supposed to have died three days earlier? And why were remnants of the terrorist passports recovered from the rubble, when all else appears to have been vapourised?

Reginald

And ask yourself how molten steel was clearly shown pouring from the side of one of the twin towers - in ideal conditions, aviation fuel will burn at a maximum temparature of about 1,800 degrees centigrade. Steel melts at around 2,800 c. What was in the building to cause this?

Reginald

Despite the twin towers and WTC 7, for me the smoking gun(s) of that day is the Pentagon and Shanksville.

These sites should have been rich in recognisable debris; engines, airframe, seats, luggage, human remains and so on.

On the other hand we have the other two planes that go through the initial impact and fireball of the trade centre attacks in which any available evidence is destroyed in the subsequent demolition and removal of the WTC site.

Paragon {Ed033's Note - This is where the Granit missile theory is a likely candidate of what hit the Pentagon. The Pentagon released just 5 frames of film to the public which did not even show a plane hitting the Pentagon. At Shanksville there was allegedly some kind of debris that covered many miles.}