17 Nov 2011 15:57:21
ed i appreciate your point but honestly if i were to rank them then Bush would be grade two. Hitler and saddam would be grade one. Bush definitely warmongered for iraq. But i don't recall him gassing civilians. Or having police dragging people of the streets and disappearing. As far as we know anyway. I just think that you cannot compare anything to hitler. The only one that comes close is stalin. I know people don't like the yanks but they've just done the same as every other empire in history, fought a war for resources. Technology changes but the politics doesn't. Its just on a bigger scale today. But its not the same as actually ordering the total extermination of an entire people and culture based on dodgy racial theory. {Ed001's Note - but the point was that he is still a murderer and supplier of materiel needed to perpetuate atrocities. He also had the power to prevent numerous mass murders and killings but instead he not just sat idly by, but actually provided assistance to carry on the killings. So I am afraid he has to be ranked amongst the worst of the worst.}
Hitler death toll plus-or-minus 11 million. These from the infamous death camps (concentration camps) to eliminate the Jewish population, as well as gypsies, homosexuals, political opposition, mentally defective (Hitler's term) and others deemed a challenge to Hitler's idea of a perfect Aryan society.
And, as a side, Mao Zedong exceeds Hitler or Stalin with 44-1/2 million to 72 million. These were rural and urban purges, the "Great Leap Forward", cultural revolution, labor camps and Tibetan massacres. {Ed001's Note - I notice you don't include the mass murder of the Kurds by both Hussein and the Turks, that seems to always get forgotten because the Turks are in NATO. There were a fair few million of those that have been wiped from the face of the earth.}
Lets just say that there have been a lot of nasty little sh!ts in power. {Ed001's Note - it seems that the people that choose to get power are the wrong people.}
www.robertreckmeyer.com/dark-forces-bush-family-conspiracy.html
frankyscouse
But i'd put Hitler, Stalin and Mao out in front on their own then have the rest behind them, Pol Pot, Saddam, Gaddafi, Khomeini, the Kim's, Bush, Pinochet so on so on, anyone i missed?
jr
Padawan {Ed001's Note - I think he was limiting it to human beings.}
Moving on from individuals, what about institutions? The british monarchy and goverment were responsible for who knows how many millions of deaths ?
In the last 50 years the CIA are guilty
of illegally overthrowing numerous democratically elected goverments and replacing them with murderous facist regimes.
And they haven't finished yet.