Talk Sense discussion

It's not as simple as that really. USA's economy had taken a dive, and there wasn't really much they could do about it. Another loan from the world bank was more than likely an option, but with the debt they were in, the American people probably wouldn't have stood for another loan that they, the taxpayers, would end up footing the bill. So, the only option really left was to get their hands on some oil. The only way this would be possible, would be to invade a country which is rich in oil. Now they couldn't just invade without any reason, so they had to come up with some reason for taking troops across seas for a so called war. The USA had plenty of warning of an attack identical to what actually happened on 9/11, way before it did. But with them ( THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY - RUMSFELD, CHENEY, WOLFOWITZ and another guy, can't remember his name ) stating in their own documentation, that for the American economy to get back on top and out of it's slump, they'd need a new PEARL HARBOUR. so all they had to do was play the waiting game, because it had been on the cards for years that this attack was immanent. After the attack, obviously the American people wanted revenge, which we can all understand as it was a very disgusting attack on innocent people. I do think that demolition explosives were planted to help take the towers down. But I can't say who put them there as I would be guessing. Anyway, now American had a reason to invade country's rich with oil, but the media had it, the USA and uk had went on a mission to capture any weapons of mass destruction, and to capture those responsible for the attacks. Now with everything in place, the people got behind their troops as they were sold the false story of revenge for those lost. So we can't blame the yanks for getting behind their government, necause from their point of view, why would they lie? If you look at where all the military camps are in country's that we and the USA have invaded, every one of them is along an oil pipe line. Pretty peculiar when you see it.
The short story is, 9/11 was a false flag event, in order for the yanks to invade and STEAL other country's oil for their own gain and financial wealth. That's what I make from everything that happened that day to where we are now.
Look at Libya as well, oil rich and yet again, the uk and USA find a reason to go for humantarian reasons. If that really is the story, humanitarian reasons, then we should be in country's where people and their children are starving to death and dying of illness that the western world can take a pill for!

Jay
Glasgow

Jay, I do not refute your theory at all, I find it very interesting. the only I would like to know is whether there is any evidence of the oil being taken? Shipping? Tapping the pipes? Lorries photographed?
Cheers,
Raz

Exactly mate - I don't see the US/UK governments going to places like Uganda, or the Congo, in such numbers when life in those countries is shocking and the suffering of the people. I guess there's no oil in those places, so no interest in 'helping' them out......

RED_SKY

Raz, I understand your query.
It's not a case of just taking it. When NATO get involved, usually with us and the USA at the forefront, once we get these country's and restore order and democracy ( what the government like to say ), when a new government/leader is put in place. We and the USA draft up what we feel is a fair contract on the profits of the oil. Because once order has been restored, NATO/UK/USA pick who will be running the country, so whoever makes the best offer of finance from oil production/sale, usually gets the position of power. Just look at all the military camps along the oil pipe lines in the country's where we have troops. Shocking, but happening!

Peace

Jay

Red sky, spot on mate. No oil, no humanitarian missions! I for 1 would be proud of my country if we could make a real difference in places that need it, not helping out corporate big wigs.

Peace

Jay

It's really interesting, and I completely see where you're coming from Jay. I was just curious about the link between having forces based along a pipeline and how they get their hands on it. Said differently - why do they need to locate camps etc along pipe line if they are not stealing it? If they are offering aid and unsurprisingly drawing up contracts of repayment in oil terms, why do they need to locate themselves anywhere near pipeline? Is it to defend that which will eventually provide them with an income?

Cheers.
Raz

Just like you said RAZ, they are based along the pipeline to protect it. It's gonna be an asset, so they can't have anything happening to it!
It's a shame that are no humanitarian missions ( government wise anyway ) that really make a differnce on the lives of our unfortunate brothers and sisters that live a life of he'll everyday. There are a lot of people out there who do go to thaws places and do what they can to help, I hold these people on the highest respect!

Peace

Jay

{Ed033's Note - 911 allowed certain powerful groups to forward their agenda at an accelerated pace except it come at a cost and woke up millions of people world wide. }